It really shows that you are not a math guy. 

You do not understand the concept, that we are actually showing you, that the odds of pulling a leggo from a sacred or an ancient remain the same. But we calculate the probability of having a leggo after pulling a number of shards. 

For a single draw, the odds remain the same....but if you pull 100 ancient shards, you will have 100 times the odds of 0.5 % to pull a leggo. The probability is higher since with the number of shards pulled, the probability will get higher. 

Simple example: 

Roll a six-sided die once. The odds to get a 6 on your roll are 16.7%

Roll a six sided die once again. The odds to get a 6 is 16.6% again. The probability to NOT get a 6 has been reduced. 

If you now roll the six-sided die 20 times, the probability that you do NOT have a 6 rolled on one of those rolls is (5/6 [odds of not getting a 6])°20 = 2,6 %

Neither of your or your family experiences and knowledge has anything to do with probability. I have a master degree in mechanical engineering...somehow I suspect that I know maths better than you do. 

You can also rant about our numbers being not correct...the point is, Krama was spot on with his numbers the first time. If you cannot distinguish between odds and probability, neither degree in history or philosophy will help you.

No, the dice roll does not change the odds, ever. I am an expert at what is known as game protection. With more rolls of the dice the true odds come into play. An individual may roll the dice for 2 hours, he/she may roll 5 hard 8's out of 10 rolls. But all that must be made up, which is basically what you are saying. My argument is that 65 out of 100 is wrong because void shards have only a 1% chance on 2x days for each individual draw. And each individual draw is just that...individual. No two draws are connected in any way. My shards and draws have nothing to do with yours or hers or anyone elses. Now from a corporate view I understand what you are trying to do. In the casino world we have what is called a "hold percentage" how much of that guests $100 will we hold, and typicall we want 85%. So we can bring in games that have a higher hold and we count the guests as one. BUT, how do we know when someone is cheating? Lots of ways actually, but winning a higher percentage than what they should be at for their buy in is big giveaway. This is called the Theoretical. So, my point is not hitting a sacred on a void, I understand I really do. Ther only reason I bought them again is because I had to, to get the sacreds. My problem is really with getting only 3 lego, from over 200 sacreds at 12%. And others going 5 for 5. I spend and they don't, kind of odd wouldn't you say?

No, the dice roll does not change the odds, ever. I am an expert at what is known as game protection. With more rolls of the dice the true odds come into play. An individual may roll the dice for 2 hours, he/she may roll 5 hard 8's out of 10 rolls. But all that must be made up, which is basically what you are saying. My argument is that 65 out of 100 is wrong because void shards have only a 1% chance on 2x days for each individual draw. And each individual draw is just that...individual. No two draws are connected in any way. My shards and draws have nothing to do with yours or hers or anyone elses. Now from a corporate view I understand what you are trying to do. In the casino world we have what is called a "hold percentage" how much of that guests $100 will we hold, and typicall we want 85%. So we can bring in games that have a higher hold and we count the guests as one. BUT, how do we know when someone is cheating? Lots of ways actually, but winning a higher percentage than what they should be at for their buy in is big giveaway. This is called the Theoretical. So, my point is not hitting a sacred on a void, I understand I really do. Ther only reason I bought them again is because I had to, to get the sacreds. My problem is really with getting only 3 lego, from over 200 sacreds at 12%. And others going 5 for 5. I spend and they don't, kind of odd wouldn't you say?

Mtrim, I have only been playing for 4 months, maybe 10 chests and no sacreds, the big chests

kram, wow exactly! So If I00 people use 107 shards why would you expect 65 of them to get a sacred?

lol, my friend from high school has Masters in Electrical Engineering and always beat him in everything, basket ball, chess, backgammon and poker, why? Because he over thinks things. He goes through all these calculations to try and make money, the Benjamin Ghram philosopy all this crazy stuff. I read a book buy Wade Cook a long time ago called the Wall Street Money Machine, he went to prison but the book was pure poetry. All these probabilities and nonsense is exactly why nothing ever gets done. Each individual roll of the dice is that. One die has a 1 in 6 chance of any number hitting on any roll. The odds never change always 1 in 6 one roll or a thousand rolls. The probabilitywill change but the odds never do.

Actually, on second thought I don't think the probability changes for an individual number on each roll of the dice. If that were the case, if the same dice were used on a million rolls probability would dictate a specific number would or would not come up but the reality is that the ODDS are still 1 in 6, have to cogitate on that one.

Again, *almost* correct, but no. That is not what we are saying. Rolling a dice a hundred times does not increase the chance of a six rolling. However, rolling a dice a hundred times and NOT getting a six is very unlikely, and the more you roll it without getting a six, the less likely it is that THAT SET OF ROLLS could happen.

None of this is talking about the odds of the specific six roll occurring. What all of this is about is the chance of that combination of rolls happening - or, more specifically, the chance of that specific roll NOT happening.

kram, wow exactly! So If I00 people use 107 shards why would you expect 65 of them to get a sacred?

Quinn tried all of this at length. The issue you're running into here is you're trying to explain in earnest to someone whose premise starts with "The odds are being manipulated by Plarium, I am being ripped off"

Thus, you like Quinn who tried explaining all of this to him, are talking to someone who is drawing their takes and views from fallacies. 

Ok, each persons draw has nothing to do with another persons draw righ? Each time I draw with a sacred shard from a pool of champions I have a 6% chance to get a lego, correct? I draw 99 times and get skunked the odds of drawing a lego on my last draw are....6%. 25 years from now, same rules, I have 100 shards I use 99 of them and get skunked. The odds of me drawing a lego on my 100th shard are....6%. I don't understand why nobody can grasp that. Oh no 65 people will have a sacred or 42 will. The problem with that logic is nobody here would bet that, would you bet everything you have, your entire net worth, that 65 out 100 people will have a sacred shard if they use 107 voids with 1% odds? No why because the odds are 1% idc what the probability is. Probabilities are not used for stuff like this, probabilities are use for politics, what is the probability that hillary would beat Joe Biden? What is the probability that Tiger will win another Masters? Things like this subject are cut and dry. For each sacred shard one uses, one has a 6% chance if gettubg a lego, 12% on 2x days. That's it, it doesn't change. Stop over thinking it, my sister RIP was an Architect, went to USC, graduated Cum Laude, Lord I miss her, but I had to straighten her logic out several times over the years, I would tell her "Quit over thinking stuff" keep it simple. 

Ok, each persons draw has nothing to do with another persons draw righ? Each time I draw with a sacred shard from a pool of champions I have a 6% chance to get a lego, correct? I draw 99 times and get skunked the odds of drawing a lego on my last draw are....6%. 25 years from now, same rules, I have 100 shards I use 99 of them and get skunked. The odds of me drawing a lego on my 100th shard are....6%. I don't understand why nobody can grasp that. Oh no 65 people will have a sacred or 42 will. The problem with that logic is nobody here would bet that, would you bet everything you have, your entire net worth, that 65 out 100 people will have a sacred shard if they use 107 voids with 1% odds? No why because the odds are 1% idc what the probability is. Probabilities are not used for stuff like this, probabilities are use for politics, what is the probability that hillary would beat Joe Biden? What is the probability that Tiger will win another Masters? Things like this subject are cut and dry. For each sacred shard one uses, one has a 6% chance if gettubg a lego, 12% on 2x days. That's it, it doesn't change. Stop over thinking it, my sister RIP was an Architect, went to USC, graduated Cum Laude, Lord I miss her, but I had to straighten her logic out several times over the years, I would tell her "Quit over thinking stuff" keep it simple.