tried again today, finally for the first time in probably 15 arena battles iv been pitched against someone on a fair level, hell yes, i beat him in the first 2 mins but he has UDK left standing, i still have 3 champs left, problem is he block revived my fenax with his mortu, so now im stuck in a 20 min loop to lose a battle i should win, what great content.

plarium really need to think of away around the shitty system they have, there has to be another factor calculated into winning(only if both teams are left standing of course) and not just letting crap like this happen constantly. really plarium, this is the 3rd arena you created now, maybe you should ensure it actually turns into a success instead of dead content?

i was also told an update happened over a week ago now that cuts the time down from 30 mins to 15 mins? total bullshit iv been in this fight i should win for 18 mins now(ya thats right the other guy being salty and wont surrender, but who can blame him when plarium give him the power to do this)

So, when you see UDK you either need to make sure you have the power to bring him down or ban him. I occasionally run into defense teams in Live Arena but not many. For those, if I have time, I put the match on auto and let it run the full 30 minutes. I don't want to reward players running these sorts of teams. 

If you don't want to do that just pass and move on. Don't take it personally when you lose. Look at it like everything else. A path to getting to assets to upgrading your champions. Do it in the most efficient way possible. Long match -- drop and go onto the next one. 

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Going to need a source on this one 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/1444217_suggestion-for-live-arena/ 

not saying it was an official source or anything

Successfully reached Gold 1 (not so successful in those matches lol) simply by using all 10 tokens every day, not using much if any strategy most days(same team every time) and quitting many matches immediately.  Most won't get that far doing that, as I've been playing almost 4 years.... But I guarantee anyone with 900+ Live Battles would be in Silver by now, and likely S2-S4 depending on level of investment (time and/or money).

I can further guarantee those with <50 battles are still in bronze :)

You can play the game and move up, or sit and whine about fairness/balance and stagnate.  I have over 20,000 area bonus medals to use, haven't spent any yet.  Thats the only metric you should be looking at with live arena, and it can only go up every day you particpate.   They are frigging participation trophies for $@#$$%^ sake! 

Successfully reached Gold 1 (not so successful in those matches lol) simply by using all 10 tokens every day, not using much if any strategy most days(same team every time) and quitting many matches immediately.  Most won't get that far doing that, as I've been playing almost 4 years.... But I guarantee anyone with 900+ Live Battles would be in Silver by now, and likely S2-S4 depending on level of investment (time and/or money).

I can further guarantee those with <50 battles are still in bronze :)

You can play the game and move up, or sit and whine about fairness/balance and stagnate.  I have over 20,000 area bonus medals to use, haven't spent any yet.  Thats the only metric you should be looking at with live arena, and it can only go up every day you particpate.   They are frigging participation trophies for $@#$$%^ sake! 

Successfully reached Gold 1 (not so successful in those matches lol) simply by using all 10 tokens every day, not using much if any strategy most days(same team every time) and quitting many matches immediately.  Most won't get that far doing that, as I've been playing almost 4 years.... But I guarantee anyone with 900+ Live Battles would be in Silver by now, and likely S2-S4 depending on level of investment (time and/or money).

I can further guarantee those with <50 battles are still in bronze :)

You can play the game and move up, or sit and whine about fairness/balance and stagnate.  I have over 20,000 area bonus medals to use, haven't spent any yet.  Thats the only metric you should be looking at with live arena, and it can only go up every day you particpate.   They are frigging participation trophies for $@#$$%^ sake! 

Successfully reached Gold 1 (not so successful in those matches lol) simply by using all 10 tokens every day, not using much if any strategy most days(same team every time) and quitting many matches immediately.  Most won't get that far doing that, as I've been playing almost 4 years.... But I guarantee anyone with 900+ Live Battles would be in Silver by now, and likely S2-S4 depending on level of investment (time and/or money).

I can further guarantee those with <50 battles are still in bronze :)

You can play the game and move up, or sit and whine about fairness/balance and stagnate.  I have over 20,000 area bonus medals to use, haven't spent any yet.  Thats the only metric you should be looking at with live arena, and it can only go up every day you particpate.   They are frigging participation trophies for $@#$$%^ sake! 

yes as i said i took fenax who would one shot him, but the other guys mortu macabb managed to peril out my fenax first and block revived him , this isnt one of those i hate udk posts , this could happen in multiple scenarios with other champions.

and again u justt said it ur self u dont want to reward other players etc etc, but a lot of scenarios people can end in a 30 min loop where the other guy has 1 champ left standing and everyone(even if their the technical winner or loser) has a salt war until someone gives up, this is where the problem is, why are plarium even allowing 30 min never ending wars between players happen are they completely blind to all the negative vibes it brings? this is where all the damn hate for live arena comes from combined with some guy being given an overly long time to select each individual champion and take every single move with his champion 1 by 1 on auto mode, and the unbalanced system that matches people up on an a coinflip.

im not saying anything u just said is not true, but it doesnt change any of the points i made which make live arena more unenjoyable than most areas of the game for very obvious factors for people to engage in, u certainly dont sound like ur really enjoying doing it and sounds like a coinflip factor for u and if i remember rightly u said u played for 4 years lol. 

I actually enjoy it, the time availability is just so restricted and inconvenient.  But the few matches I actually "play" are much more fun than auto farming a dungeon. And the rewards are fine, I just don't know whether to invest in hydra or fk bonus yet. No rush on using them. And yes it is a coin flip whether I win or lose each individual match, bit like I said the losses don't matter.

Your frustration is understandable as an early game, f2p or low spender I assume? But your expectation that you should be able to do end game content is where the problem lies. It's not designed to be fair for you. It will become fair when all n00bs participate. 

That falls on both the player and Plarium.   Plarium, I feel has done their part by providing a no lose path to G1 with the point inflation and bot matches. It feels like many have decided to play, you and others decided its still not worth the effort.  I just find that to be nonsensical if you are f2p.  Anything not requiring energy that provides even small rewards seems like a must do daily. 

good post, agreed on time being restrictive (especially in summer where I'm not around my house/devices as much as I usually am)

I do think that not everyone will share your sentiment as a (nearly) F2P min max style approach as you're clearly in to wring out almost all the value you can, where you can

that said, if I were starting again I'd be trying to cram GH/Area Bonuses as much as I could to just make gearing that much easier across the board, but that's not going to be everyone's approach for sure. 

and for some - even if they don't enjoy the arena meta as much as they have in the past - arena is still their favorite part of the game. 

perhaps a bit off topic but something I've been thinking about lately is the knowledge gap leading to frustration in live arena/arena in general, not understanding the value of certain free nukers. (Ronda, even Arix) I just see so many complaints centered around the rosters other people have and wonder from time to time how much this all plays into that

Successfully reached Gold 1 (not so successful in those matches lol) simply by using all 10 tokens every day, not using much if any strategy most days(same team every time) and quitting many matches immediately.  Most won't get that far doing that, as I've been playing almost 4 years.... But I guarantee anyone with 900+ Live Battles would be in Silver by now, and likely S2-S4 depending on level of investment (time and/or money).

I can further guarantee those with <50 battles are still in bronze :)

You can play the game and move up, or sit and whine about fairness/balance and stagnate.  I have over 20,000 area bonus medals to use, haven't spent any yet.  Thats the only metric you should be looking at with live arena, and it can only go up every day you particpate.   They are frigging participation trophies for $@#$$%^ sake! 

Then you haven't seen that the new CB world record was pumped up by using these participation trophies.

The stats make a difference to run times and levels.

What does the CB world record get you?

Answer: absolutely nothing  😀

But I agree, these participation trophies are freebies for n00bs to help progress.  Yet most are ignoring the content. 

And yes, they will help me too.  I just don't "need" them anywhere at the moment. 

I actually enjoy it, the time availability is just so restricted and inconvenient.  But the few matches I actually "play" are much more fun than auto farming a dungeon. And the rewards are fine, I just don't know whether to invest in hydra or fk bonus yet. No rush on using them. And yes it is a coin flip whether I win or lose each individual match, bit like I said the losses don't matter.

Your frustration is understandable as an early game, f2p or low spender I assume? But your expectation that you should be able to do end game content is where the problem lies. It's not designed to be fair for you. It will become fair when all n00bs participate. 

That falls on both the player and Plarium.   Plarium, I feel has done their part by providing a no lose path to G1 with the point inflation and bot matches. It feels like many have decided to play, you and others decided its still not worth the effort.  I just find that to be nonsensical if you are f2p.  Anything not requiring energy that provides even small rewards seems like a must do daily. 

I still havent played it since the initial day, my first fights took forever and even in bronze i got whale opponents with their +4 taras +4 marichka (presmeably because the matchmaking is hard onto power matching and i have a fair bit of player power)

I know the bonuses are worth it, but not doing an extra hour or two a day for one event.

I still havent played it since the initial day, my first fights took forever and even in bronze i got whale opponents with their +4 taras +4 marichka (presmeably because the matchmaking is hard onto power matching and i have a fair bit of player power)

I know the bonuses are worth it, but not doing an extra hour or two a day for one event.