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Jul 23, 2018, 23:4607/23/18
06/15/17
879
Alina Phoenix:

Chascon said:


We haved two players with sword and others players start to defend them.  was something fun, only for xp points And a very poor PvP tournament.

Thanks for sharing your experience, my Lord!

Actually, you used a right strategy! When someone in your League gets Sword, the best way to go is to send all defensive Units you have to protect his/her Castle. Then you can use Sword for attacking Enemies' Castles, Fortresses and Beacons. Even if your Reinforcement Units dies, you will be able to revive 905 of them for free after the Tournament :) 
Thanks a lot for your support :)
Jul 24, 2018, 15:0007/24/18
10/15/15
455

Chascon said:


Ashes1770:

Chascon said:


We haved two players with sword and others players start to defend them.  was something fun, only for xp points And a very poor PvP tournament.

Thanks for sharing your vies on this event. Do you have any suggestions for the future youd do differently with this event or any ways youd find it more exciting?

Is hard to adapt too fast sometimes 😂

We recive a real damage in fort. Very bad.

Dont know yet how improve this event... 

If you come up with any ideas let us know!

Hopefully you guys can rebuild and fix your fort!
Jul 25, 2018, 08:1807/25/18
Jul 25, 2018, 16:27(edited)
03/21/17
1
Any game suggestions we as players make that shift the balance are refused. And what did plarium do ? They allowed a happy few to become cruelmonsters doing 2 things. Giving them up to 400% extra force and at the same time allowing a 90% revive of their losses.  Many leagues were demoted and many players are disappointed. A black day for many and only a handfull  will applaud this new feature. Plarium is cutting down on their own revenues on this one. I suggest the while idea of this sword is abandonned or its effects are decreased heavily 
Jul 25, 2018, 09:4007/25/18
12/27/15
10

nach nun einigen tagen geb ich hier auch mal meinen senf dazu.

dieser wettbrwerb ist in hohem masse ungerecht. stellt euch vor ihr seid ne kleinere liga mit ner festung auf lvl 17.

nun kommt jemand mit diesem schwert daher...wuppt eure festung. nicht geklsppt ? dann lässt er das schwert von einem member einer anderen liga erobern...und der wuppt noch mal drauf...bäng...festung auf 16.

nun ve4sucht mal nach dem wiederbeleben die einheiten vor der nächsten senkung, in die festung zu bekommen...viel spass...

wenn ihr das nun geschafft habt...glückwunsch.

nun dürft ihr die festung wieder leveln...und was braucht ihr dafür ? richtig...level 5 türme...ich glaub von 16 auf 17 sind es drei...von 19 auf 20 5....das geht nur mit saphiren...sowie ein turm auf s1 oder s2 auf level 2 ist, fällt der gegner wie hyänen über die türme her. und dann müssen diese bis zur nächsten aktuallisierung gehalten werden....viel spass....

und alles nur, damit im nächsten wettbewerb die festung wieder gesenkt wird.

mal ernstaft....wer defft dann noch eine festung ????

es geht doch gar nicht um die 10% verlust an einheiten. es geht darum das es für normale ligen ummöglich ist den schaden zu reparieren...jedenfalls ohne geld zu investieren. da liegt meiner meinung nach das problem...kann doch nicht angehen, dass plarium indirekt festungen senkt  was nur reparabel ist, indem man geld investiert.

der grund dieses ungerechten wettbewerbs ist recht einfach. warum macht plarium das ? 

antwort...um inaktive member mit ihrer deff aus den festungen zu bekommen. dafür war damals auch das lt massaker.


das ist natürlich legitim....aber nicht auf diese weise. wie wärs denn, wenn die festungen nach dem senken im wettbewerb, nach dem wettbewerb kostenlos auf ihren ehemaligen stand gelevelt werden können ?

eine 24 h angriffssperre damit die ligen ihre deff wieder in die festungen bekommen ohne das die einheiten unwiderbringlich geschrottet werden.

belohnungen wie im pvp...kann doch nicht sein das mir plarium 10 % festungsdeff schrottet ohne das ich nen einfluss darauf hab.


eins sollte jedem klar sein. bleibt der wettbewerb so wie er ist, ist das thema festungen, wie auch das thema lichtttürme, beendet. keine liga, die dich gedanken macht, wird eine festung über lvl 5 skillen. 







Jul 25, 2018, 10:0507/25/18
02/29/16
5605

x86emt said:


Any game suggestions we as players make that shift the balance are refused. And what did plarium do ? They allowed a happy few to become cruelmonsters doing 2 things. Giving them up to 400% extra force and at the same time allowing a 90% revive of their losses.  Many leagues were demoted and many players are disappointed. A black day for many and only a handfull  will applaud this new feature. Plarium is cutting down on their own revenues on this one. I suggesr the arm may at most be used on a fortress equal or higher. 

Hello, my Lord!

Not only attackers could revive 90% of their loses for free. Those players who had PvP with Sword's owners also could do it after the end of the Tournament.

As for Bonus, devs reviewing it at the moment and more likely some debuff will be added to Sword's owners' defense. So that more players could attack them and fight for Sword.

It was the first Tournament of this format we launched in the game. Yes, some of its aspects require improvements and it's what Tournament developers are working on at the moment. 

Jul 25, 2018, 11:5907/25/18
02/29/16
5605

belgarion11 said:


nach nun einigen tagen geb ich hier auch mal meinen senf dazu.

dieser wettbrwerb ist in hohem masse ungerecht. stellt euch vor ihr seid ne kleinere liga mit ner festung auf lvl 17.

nun kommt jemand mit diesem schwert daher...wuppt eure festung. nicht geklsppt ? dann lässt er das schwert von einem member einer anderen liga erobern...und der wuppt noch mal drauf...bäng...festung auf 16.

nun ve4sucht mal nach dem wiederbeleben die einheiten vor der nächsten senkung, in die festung zu bekommen...viel spass...

wenn ihr das nun geschafft habt...glückwunsch.

nun dürft ihr die festung wieder leveln...und was braucht ihr dafür ? richtig...level 5 türme...ich glaub von 16 auf 17 sind es drei...von 19 auf 20 5....das geht nur mit saphiren...sowie ein turm auf s1 oder s2 auf level 2 ist, fällt der gegner wie hyänen über die türme her. und dann müssen diese bis zur nächsten aktuallisierung gehalten werden....viel spass....

und alles nur, damit im nächsten wettbewerb die festung wieder gesenkt wird.

mal ernstaft....wer defft dann noch eine festung ????

es geht doch gar nicht um die 10% verlust an einheiten. es geht darum das es für normale ligen ummöglich ist den schaden zu reparieren...jedenfalls ohne geld zu investieren. da liegt meiner meinung nach das problem...kann doch nicht angehen, dass plarium indirekt festungen senkt  was nur reparabel ist, indem man geld investiert.

der grund dieses ungerechten wettbewerbs ist recht einfach. warum macht plarium das ? 

antwort...um inaktive member mit ihrer deff aus den festungen zu bekommen. dafür war damals auch das lt massaker.


das ist natürlich legitim....aber nicht auf diese weise. wie wärs denn, wenn die festungen nach dem senken im wettbewerb, nach dem wettbewerb kostenlos auf ihren ehemaligen stand gelevelt werden können ?

eine 24 h angriffssperre damit die ligen ihre deff wieder in die festungen bekommen ohne das die einheiten unwiderbringlich geschrottet werden.

belohnungen wie im pvp...kann doch nicht sein das mir plarium 10 % festungsdeff schrottet ohne das ich nen einfluss darauf hab.


eins sollte jedem klar sein. bleibt der wettbewerb so wie er ist, ist das thema festungen, wie auch das thema lichtttürme, beendet. keine liga, die dich gedanken macht, wird eine festung über lvl 5 skillen. 

Hallo, mein Lord!

Ich habe deine Bedenken bereits in diesem Thema beantwortet: https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfallrob/game-discussion/106501_some-new-ideas--einige-neue-ideen/

Wir sollten die Unterhaltung auf einen Ort beschränken, falls du weitere Ideen zu dem Wettbewerb hast.



Hello, my Lord!

I've replied to your concerns in this Topic already: https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfallrob/game-discussion/106501_some-new-ideas--einige-neue-ideen/

Let's keep it discussed in one place if you still have any comments regarding the Tournament.

Jul 25, 2018, 21:2407/25/18
Jul 25, 2018, 21:45(edited)
10/07/17
8

I'm really disappointed in this Sword of Mara Stuff ... Developpers have no idea how this earthquake was felt within the game. It was much heavier then a bloody Sunday ...

Strong players with fortress Champs of +50% , offense bonus of +50% for a week and 100% to 300% force increase  with this Sword of Mara are lethal serial killers. . It was a black day for many leagues, never was it so easy to demote a fortress level 20, of leagues that used to reign !

The Sword in hands of a player who has 200 to 300kk off power and all above listed bonuses in combination with a sword level 2 to 5 can easiliy punch out a 1kkk league ... well well

.

Then on the victim side, and there  were many ...

A hit league despite being able to regain 90% after the tournament, faces several problems. With Line a hit league , like a wounded animal leaving blood is smelt from a distance, information is spread once a league is demoted, other leagues get curious and add to the misery like real vultures.Its hard to break the vicious circle ! 

.

Another observation is that once a sword player ressources reaches its end, he wil finally raid small leagues, before it is handed over to another account of another at least friendly league. There is also no way that Plarium can prevent this handing over as there is no way to know about alliances nor players having accounts in other leagues.

.

Many leagues have sleeping accounts, and store substantial def forces of players that actually stopped playing, but uploaded all they had. If a sleeping account is kept, its because they contrbuted substantial. So once these historical sleeping accounts defensive power is lost many face a deficit with current mebers of 20 to 40%. Moreover once a fortress was hit, people spend less , a normal response as if a war broke out in real life and you need to save a bit more for yet even worse times. This is called stashing up.

.

I know the sideeffects of being member of an hit fortress , about the hatred that deep side unveals, and this weapon gets the worst out of some players believe me. How many times you have been harrased in the game ? A war game ? Some are total maniacs and get bananas , I even dealt with a guy who was in jail and a real criminal. Kim Yung Un is a barking dog compared to those. The final settlement , the ultimate chance of revenge reigns in stormfall. . Therore I can't appaud the facility offered to get into this kind of reflections.

.

Some  say oh well its a fight among the big ones. No it isn't. A sword is indeed changing hands and initially the sword may be in  hands of a lvl 90 player but in the final phase only the strongest (or the immortals) survive and indeed the sword remained in the hands of lvl 125+ players till the very end.

.

If the owner of the sword his forces are depleted and he needs to wait to revive till after te PVP, he can easiliy hand it over in a controlled manner to another of his accounts, or a friended league. In such manner the same fortress can be hit many times by different accounts, still in hands of the same player or a firend within the alliance

.

I consider what fun is it to pleasure a small elite group at the top and dissappoint the largest community ? Please answer ?  If such incidents repeat itself, massive players will say bye bye forever. This game does not need this , we hardly digested the stoneheart stuff and many are still careless about champs. The 10 thousands of runs I did and lost time doing so on this infinite small champ improvement ... Oh My God ... what fun is that ?  Eversince the arrival of the champs the best renewal is the Duel PVP. So the person who had this idea deserves a medal.

On the other hand the classification of the leagues should not be disclosed, unless to leagues of its own tier. As the information provided with its statistics already had inspired some to strike a fortress, based on league activity stats. So an advise to plarium. Keep the stats within its tier and do not disclose those to other tiers, as it had caused havoc as well.. 

Jul 25, 2018, 21:5907/25/18
12/27/15
10
one of our member is in holiday in this time. when he come back next week and log in, he see that he lost 20 kk defense. what a nice suprise....
Jul 26, 2018, 06:3007/26/18
Jul 26, 2018, 10:51(edited)
01/11/16
1009
Thanks and all these suggestions may be taken into consideration for future tournaments
Jul 26, 2018, 18:2107/26/18
10/15/15
455

Mancunian said:


I'm really disappointed in this Sword of Mara Stuff ... Developpers have no idea how this earthquake was felt within the game. It was much heavier then a bloody Sunday ...

Strong players with fortress Champs of +50% , offense bonus of +50% for a week and 100% to 300% force increase  with this Sword of Mara are lethal serial killers. . It was a black day for many leagues, never was it so easy to demote a fortress level 20, of leagues that used to reign !

The Sword in hands of a player who has 200 to 300kk off power and all above listed bonuses in combination with a sword level 2 to 5 can easiliy punch out a 1kkk league ... well well

.

Then on the victim side, and there  were many ...

A hit league despite being able to regain 90% after the tournament, faces several problems. With Line a hit league , like a wounded animal leaving blood is smelt from a distance, information is spread once a league is demoted, other leagues get curious and add to the misery like real vultures.Its hard to break the vicious circle ! 

.

Another observation is that once a sword player ressources reaches its end, he wil finally raid small leagues, before it is handed over to another account of another at least friendly league. There is also no way that Plarium can prevent this handing over as there is no way to know about alliances nor players having accounts in other leagues.

.

Many leagues have sleeping accounts, and store substantial def forces of players that actually stopped playing, but uploaded all they had. If a sleeping account is kept, its because they contrbuted substantial. So once these historical sleeping accounts defensive power is lost many face a deficit with current mebers of 20 to 40%. Moreover once a fortress was hit, people spend less , a normal response as if a war broke out in real life and you need to save a bit more for yet even worse times. This is called stashing up.

.

I know the sideeffects of being member of an hit fortress , about the hatred that deep side unveals, and this weapon gets the worst out of some players believe me. How many times you have been harrased in the game ? A war game ? Some are total maniacs and get bananas , I even dealt with a guy who was in jail and a real criminal. Kim Yung Un is a barking dog compared to those. The final settlement , the ultimate chance of revenge reigns in stormfall. . Therore I can't appaud the facility offered to get into this kind of reflections.

.

Some  say oh well its a fight among the big ones. No it isn't. A sword is indeed changing hands and initially the sword may be in  hands of a lvl 90 player but in the final phase only the strongest (or the immortals) survive and indeed the sword remained in the hands of lvl 125+ players till the very end.

.

If the owner of the sword his forces are depleted and he needs to wait to revive till after te PVP, he can easiliy hand it over in a controlled manner to another of his accounts, or a friended league. In such manner the same fortress can be hit many times by different accounts, still in hands of the same player or a firend within the alliance

.

I consider what fun is it to pleasure a small elite group at the top and dissappoint the largest community ? Please answer ?  If such incidents repeat itself, massive players will say bye bye forever. This game does not need this , we hardly digested the stoneheart stuff and many are still careless about champs. The 10 thousands of runs I did and lost time doing so on this infinite small champ improvement ... Oh My God ... what fun is that ?  Eversince the arrival of the champs the best renewal is the Duel PVP. So the person who had this idea deserves a medal.

On the other hand the classification of the leagues should not be disclosed, unless to leagues of its own tier. As the information provided with its statistics already had inspired some to strike a fortress, based on league activity stats. So an advise to plarium. Keep the stats within its tier and do not disclose those to other tiers, as it had caused havoc as well.. 

After reading this I have to say I do agree with you mostly how the sword of mara event played out. Many agree as well from what I have collected in conversations. It was not thought through before being released in my opinion about how it would actually play out vs how they assumed it would. 

One thing I know that can help better this is to give us suggestions for how you would do things differently or what youd like to see instead of what you hated which you did a great job explaining yourself and your opinions on all of this. They are taking all suggestions for future events like this to help make it better instead of causing a crazy uproar again :)

I really like the dual pvp event as well, it brings a lot of people together and boosts activity.
Jul 26, 2018, 18:2207/26/18
10/15/15
455
belgarion11 said:

one of our member is in holiday in this time. when he come back next week and log in, he see that he lost 20 kk defense. what a nice suprise....
Hopefully he gained some rewards from this and wont be to upset.
Jul 31, 2018, 13:5707/31/18
07/08/16
52

As for Bonus, devs reviewing it at the moment and more likely some debuff will be added to Sword's owners' defense. So that more players could attack them and fight for Sword.


Alina,


Simply debuffing the sword owners is no way sufficient to fix this tournament.  That would in no way resolve how big leagues and fortresses were completely destroyed.  And when you keep stating that players got to revive 90% of their lost defensive troops, that is completely inaccurate.  That is not how this tournament played out at all.