Battleground BS

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charlene
7 August, 2016, 5:06 PM UTC

Yes BS stands for the word Plarium will ban. i think plarium should own up and admit they changed the Battleground payout system to suit them. In the numerous Battlegrounds i have done i have come to this conclusion, 1. Do a high level BG get a crapp payout do a lower BG get an OK payout but not enough to do anymore higher BG. Best twist will be Oberon gets killed by Balur and he takes over stormfall and we all quite or stop playing. so wake up Plarium back in the day where you had no payout and had to work for a big payout no one complained now suddenly there are complaints!!!! so the problem lies with you, YES I KNOW YOU WONT FIX IT BECAUSE YOU ARE TO COWARDLY TO ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG. 


everyone else enjoy a one sided game were you need money to get anywhere


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Gadheras
7 August, 2016, 6:40 PM UTC

well, my only purpose to play this game is to try to get as many cheap kills I can on other players and collect the tears when they write me hate mail, because it carry no sapphire cost and it taste delicious.


Players can only affect the game with their spending habbits, because our voice isn't really heard else. The new 50% booster is clear evidence of that. 

I just wish Plarium would been as interested in develop a good game that made as many as possible wanting to play, as they are in trying to squeeze as much money out of players as possible before they leave :/


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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
8 August, 2016, 9:31 AM UTC

We didn't change payouts, we didn't add taxes, interests, or anything of that kind. 

You still need the same amount of "points" to get a payout as you needed before. And you still can get the same payout as you received before. All the changes were explained in our post, and if you have any extra questions, please ask.
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
8 August, 2016, 10:02 AM UTC

Lady Charlene

Big payouts still are there you only have to adapt the new system to get them. the pity is cant continue testing but i can sure that the levels pay as used to do

PS: wondering what u want to mean with 'same amount of "points"' Lady Alyona :) 


Regards

Resistance Is Futile
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Inaginni
8 August, 2016, 1:40 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


We didn't change payouts, we didn't add taxes, interests, or anything of that kind. 

You still need the same amount of "points" to get a payout as you needed before. And you still can get the same payout as you received before. All the changes were explained in our post, and if you have any extra questions, please ask.

Well... Plarium did change payouts, but in a way towards how Plarium intended the system to work (didn't quite work, but it got closer).

@Charlene: I went over this before in the thread linked above. Here's how I've found to get roughly 95% back out for a max level of 30. It does seem that high level bgs can get the same results by breaking 4-30 (depending on how high your bg's level is).

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
9 August, 2016, 11:31 AM UTC

Inaginni said:



Well... Plarium did change payouts, but in a way towards how Plarium intended the system to work (didn't quite work, but it got closer).

@Charlene: I went over this before in the thread linked above. Here's how I've found to get roughly 95% back out for a max level of 30. It does seem that high level bgs can get the same results by breaking 4-30 (depending on how high your bg's level is).

Changing system and changing payouts is not the same thing. Payout - is the amount of Units you can receive. it wasn't changed. You still can get the same rewards as you got before. We did change some things, but they don't affect payouts directly. They affect only one strategy which now needs more time to get the same payout as before. 

But there is one "but".

Even this change was not that tragic as some players think it was.

For instance, let's say that player A uses "yellowing" strategy, and player B uses "one-by-one" strategy which was recommended in that post.

Let's say that Player B raids BGs one by one, and when he raids 20 of level 150 BGs he receives 5000 Dragons as a big payout and 2000 Dragons from mini-payouts. 7000 in total for 20 BGs.

Player A who used to "yellow" BGs can "yellow" 19 BGs and then hit the 20th BG and receive 5000 Dragons as a payout and 100 Dragons as a mini-payout of this 20th BG. Then he can go back to other BGs and collect 1900 Dragons. 

If Player A and Player B raid the same amount of BGs (100, or 1000, it doesn't matter), they will find out that they have received the same payouts.

Of course, there is a random component which leads to bigger or less payouts, so their results may differ a little. It's just an example. 

Moreover, if you have some statistics of yellowing BGs before and after the update, you can compare results and find out that let's say 1000 BGs give you the same payout. Or certain investments give you the same payout (with a little difference because of random variable). 


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Inaginni
9 August, 2016, 12:27 PM UTC

Payouts were changed. The point of that thread, as pointed out by Nikita, was to stop the exploit of being able to get more out than was put in. That is a payout change. Whereas the old system would give small payouts even if your bank was already at zero, the new system will not do so.

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
10 August, 2016, 7:44 AM UTC
Inaginni said:

Payouts were changed. The point of that thread, as pointed out by Nikita, was to stop the exploit of being able to get more out than was put in. That is a payout change. Whereas the old system would give small payouts even if your bank was already at zero, the new system will not do so.

If you've just received a big payout, you will still receive small payouts from each BG.
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Jezebel
10 August, 2016, 1:00 PM UTC
Then explain how I am down 17 million offense from doing bg's this past weekend.
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Aaron KT3
10 August, 2016, 4:11 PM UTC
Jezebel said:

Then explain how I am down 17 million offense from doing bg's this past weekend.
As the OP said, it's all BS (and "Airplane Noises")
Aaron
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Lord Mark
15 August, 2016, 10:04 PM UTC
Juglar del Viento said:

Lady Charlene

Big payouts still are there you only have to adapt the new system to get them. the pity is cant continue testing but i can sure that the levels pay as used to do

PS: wondering what u want to mean with 'same amount of "points"' Lady Alyona :) 


Regards

Yes big rewards are there ...you must put into the BANK 1000 dragons and 2000 griffins to recive that :) and after u finish u will have less truppes
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Lord Mark
15 August, 2016, 10:06 PM UTC

Jezebel said:


Then explain how I am down 17 million offense from doing bg's this past weekend.

I am down 8mil :(


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cat in the hat
15 August, 2016, 10:20 PM UTC
Of course your going to be down in force for doing bgs. That was what the developers wanted. I figured no matter how you do bgs you would be looking at 20% loss in force regardless of banking or doing one by one. A good chance of maybe losing 25% force after all said and done. Anyone coining bgs is not bright. Coining would be better for PVP to kill enemies. 
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djmoody
16 August, 2016, 12:46 PM UTC

If you just play BG's randomly the BG's remember you bank. Your troops aren't lost. But pretty much at all times you will have resource stuck in your bank.

If you want to be able to clear your bank to zero you need to understand the BG mechanics very well, so you drive your big payout to be exactly what your current bank is.

What the BG's don't do is steal your troops forever. Everyone that makes a post like that just doesn't track their bank properly to see what is going in and out. Over time they will slowly degrade your army due to the small tax, but they never steal all your army over night or in one weekend (its still in your bank waiting for you to drive a full payout).

As a rule of thumb ppl need to be able to kill 4/5 high level BG's to be able to load enough to get a full payout. The only real risk to BG's is running out of troops before you get a full payout, because you raised your top BG level beyond the comfortable capability of your army size.

You should also consider increasing your top level slightly if your BG's go stale (seemingly taking more and more loading to payout). The fresh BG levels you have never done before can be really generous.

Anyway - enough giving out hints and tips.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Jezebel
16 August, 2016, 7:36 PM UTC

djmoody said:


If you just play BG's randomly the BG's remember you bank. Your troops aren't lost. But pretty much at all times you will have resource stuck in your bank.

If you want to be able to clear your bank to zero you need to understand the BG mechanics very well, so you drive your big payout to be exactly what your current bank is.

What the BG's don't do is steal your troops forever. Everyone that makes a post like that just doesn't track their bank properly to see what is going in and out. Over time they will slowly degrade your army due to the small tax, but they never steal all your army over night or in one weekend (its still in your bank waiting for you to drive a full payout).

As a rule of thumb ppl need to be able to kill 4/5 high level BG's to be able to load enough to get a full payout. The only real risk to BG's is running out of troops before you get a full payout, because you raised your top BG level beyond the comfortable capability of your army size.

You should also consider increasing your top level slightly if your BG's go stale (seemingly taking more and more loading to payout). The fresh BG levels you have never done before can be really generous.

Anyway - enough giving out hints and tips.

I had plenty bank put into them DJ i was at level 150 bg, i maybe over loaded the troops are still there, but when they come out who knows? I had yellowed and cleared around 75 bg without receiving a payout equal to what was put in never mind more than.


I will not touch them for a while ... if ever again


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