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dthorne04Moderator
Jun 12, 2022, 05:4606/12/22
12/30/20
5393
ClosedPoly

Cracking large amounts of mystery shards is fun to me.  I like the suspense of who will I get.  I just keep feeding them to other food in the tavern and leveling them up.  

You're more reasonable than me. I will be complaining tomorrow whilst doing it. :)

Jun 12, 2022, 12:1906/12/22
05/03/20
1751
dthorne04

You're more reasonable than me. I will be complaining tomorrow whilst doing it. :)

Mine are saved for the summon rush.  

We found something I do better than you.  lol

Jun 12, 2022, 21:4906/12/22
Jun 12, 2022, 21:49(edited)
04/25/22
63

How many pts is the 1st champ from summon rush *edit* Usually* at ? 2k, 3k ? 

Would 10+ ancients , 3-4 void and 1-2 sacred be enough to get it ?

Jun 12, 2022, 22:4306/12/22
02/13/21
823
Lyryal

How many pts is the 1st champ from summon rush *edit* Usually* at ? 2k, 3k ? 

Would 10+ ancients , 3-4 void and 1-2 sacred be enough to get it ?

I predict that it iwll be around 1750 points, as that has been the trend for the most recent fragment/fusion events.  

The key to Summon Rush events are Sacred Shards, which are worth 500 points each.  Void Shards are 120, Ancients are 20 and Mystery shards are 1.  The other shards simply don't give the return of investment in my mind.

That said, with your current shards you would get:

  • 2 Sacreds = 1000 points
  • 4 void = 480 points
  • 10 ancients = 200 points

Total = 1680 points, which is close enough.  You can fill the gap with a few more ancients or a bunch of mystery shards

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Jun 14, 2022, 01:0406/14/22
Jun 14, 2022, 01:11(edited)
04/25/22
63

Tyvm for the info RoseRoyal !!!


now being drained of most ressources beside shards ... how do i attack the upcoming events? Tmr its icegolem + dungeon divers with tta in between.

But im wondering for tonight , should i just do ice golem(to get higher or faster clear) or 12-3 (to get even more food and silver) ? I need silver to prep for next artifact event , so whichever would give me enough to finish currrent artifact upg event and should have all food and potions for fusion 

Jun 14, 2022, 07:5506/14/22
05/03/20
1751

I noticed the info we got was not in chronilogical order.  This may help.  


 6/9/22 to 6/12/22  Dungeon Divers Event I 

 6/9/22 to 6/12/22  Dragon Tournament 

6/10/22 to 6/13/22  Champion Chase Tournament 

6/10/22 to 6/13/22  Classic Arena Takedown I 

6/12/22 to 6/15/22  Artifact Enhancement Event 

6/12/22 to 6/16/22  Champion Training Event 

6/13/22 to 6/16/22  Ice Golem Tournament 

6/14/22 to 6/18/22  Dungeon Divers Event II 

6/16/22 to 6/19/22  Classic Arena Takedown II 

6/17/22 to 6/20/22  Fire Knight Tournament 

6/17/22 to 6/20/22  Summon Rush 

6/17/22 to 6/21/22  Artifact Enhancement Event II 

6/19/22 to 6/23/22  Champion Training Tournament 

6/21/22 to 6/24/22  Dungeon Divers Event III 

6/21/22 to 6/24/22  Spider Tournament  

Jun 14, 2022, 20:1806/14/22
09/17/21
23

I've gotten every Lamibur so far including the 2 from champion chase. I will be able to finish IG tonight and the only upcoming events I'm truly worried about are Summon Rush and Spider. I don't have the shards for Summon Rush and if the first rare is ~1750 points, I only have the potential for 1680 at the moment, and most of it is from mysteries. I'm also only able to beat Spider 13 so I may have to sink a ton of gems into energy refills and use an autoclicker to get through it. I might be able to squeeze out FK but I can only beat level 16. I was only at IG 15 going into this fusion but I was able to get up to level 20 yesterday and I may be able to do that for FK as well. It will be a stretch, and if I have to sink $30 into getting a shard and gem pack to do it, I will since I have only been f2p for the last 8 months and I figured I've put more time into this game than others that I've paid for.

Jun 14, 2022, 20:3906/14/22
05/03/20
1751
djs078

I've gotten every Lamibur so far including the 2 from champion chase. I will be able to finish IG tonight and the only upcoming events I'm truly worried about are Summon Rush and Spider. I don't have the shards for Summon Rush and if the first rare is ~1750 points, I only have the potential for 1680 at the moment, and most of it is from mysteries. I'm also only able to beat Spider 13 so I may have to sink a ton of gems into energy refills and use an autoclicker to get through it. I might be able to squeeze out FK but I can only beat level 16. I was only at IG 15 going into this fusion but I was able to get up to level 20 yesterday and I may be able to do that for FK as well. It will be a stretch, and if I have to sink $30 into getting a shard and gem pack to do it, I will since I have only been f2p for the last 8 months and I figured I've put more time into this game than others that I've paid for.

My goal is to be f2p but I spend a little money from time to time.   This champ is supposed to be a game changer.  This is the time to spend a bit to get something of real value.  

Good luck.  

Jun 15, 2022, 00:1206/15/22
Jun 15, 2022, 00:38(edited)
04/25/22
63


i

Slowly getting there ^^ 30% done on dungeon divers II My biggest worry are not having enough energy and silver to finish upcoming events n tourny beside summon rush >.< but since i did manage previous dungeon tourny and training event , should be fine right :P Dungeons were all done on stage 11 too ... least optimal but felt energy efficient since i cant do 20 yet  and im not even 2 months in playing this game yet .. im a minnow on spendings tho!


Also random note , anyone worried about summon rush , there is a deal today 5 sacred for 40$ , which translate to 2500 summon rush points (?unsure, can someone confirm) 

I would get it if it made me push for epic but i doubt it's gonna be enough when im gonna be scratching mystery and ancient to finish off the rare !

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 15, 2022, 01:0406/15/22
12/30/20
5393

Glad to hear you're making progress. :)

5 Sacreds = 2500 Summon Rush points, indeed. I would guess the Epic ends up being 3500+, though.

Mystery = 1 point

Ancient = 20

Void = 120

Sacred = 500. 


Jun 15, 2022, 01:1106/15/22
04/25/22
63
dthorne04

Glad to hear you're making progress. :)

5 Sacreds = 2500 Summon Rush points, indeed. I would guess the Epic ends up being 3500+, though.

Mystery = 1 point

Ancient = 20

Void = 120

Sacred = 500. 


was mostly for those unsure about getting the epic :P i know im not so i focused on all the rares instead !

Just unsure what to do till FK tourny starts ... lots of forced energy to use in between , while saving up those i can !

Jun 15, 2022, 04:0306/15/22
04/27/20
77

If I recall correctly, the Karato Fox Summon Rush was way more than other summon rushes. I believe it was 2450/4600. Hoping it's not this way again.

Jun 15, 2022, 07:1606/15/22
05/03/20
1751

I have 2 sacred, 5 void, 42 ancient, 2710 mystery.  That should be over 5,000 points.  

I dont mind opening all the mystery shards.  I get them 50+ per day.  If I have a surplus of points I want to keep the ancients.  I will always use sacred and void in fusion.  I will never have enough to make a 2x difference.  But, I get ancients slow and steady.  They help my account during 2x when I can get an epic or lego.  Does this make sense?

Jun 15, 2022, 19:0206/15/22
Jun 15, 2022, 19:10(edited)
06/25/20
6216
ClosedPoly

I have 2 sacred, 5 void, 42 ancient, 2710 mystery.  That should be over 5,000 points.  

I dont mind opening all the mystery shards.  I get them 50+ per day.  If I have a surplus of points I want to keep the ancients.  I will always use sacred and void in fusion.  I will never have enough to make a 2x difference.  But, I get ancients slow and steady.  They help my account during 2x when I can get an epic or lego.  Does this make sense?

It's the gambler's fallacy. Having a small number of something does indeed mean it won't happen very often - but it doesn't mean you should just use them for no reason.

Especially for voids, you should *absolutely* only use those on 2x. The odds are already small, you need everything you can get, and you definitely *don't* want to be getting void rares from them if you can avoid it. At least for sacreds, the epics are often still endgame usable.

You won't need 5000 points. My guess is the top reward will be at 3500, though we'll see. Also, remember - with 2700 mystery shards, you'll get, on average, 38 rare champs. There are roughly 200 rares in the game, so you'll have roughly a 20% chance of getting one of the fusion rares. If you're lucky, you may even get two, which may mean you don't even end up needing the epic.

I would start by using the mystery shards and then, if you end up needing to, see what you need to use then. Chances are you'll only need to use on sacred to finish it off.

Jun 15, 2022, 22:5006/15/22
05/03/20
1751
kramaswamy.kr

It's the gambler's fallacy. Having a small number of something does indeed mean it won't happen very often - but it doesn't mean you should just use them for no reason.

Especially for voids, you should *absolutely* only use those on 2x. The odds are already small, you need everything you can get, and you definitely *don't* want to be getting void rares from them if you can avoid it. At least for sacreds, the epics are often still endgame usable.

You won't need 5000 points. My guess is the top reward will be at 3500, though we'll see. Also, remember - with 2700 mystery shards, you'll get, on average, 38 rare champs. There are roughly 200 rares in the game, so you'll have roughly a 20% chance of getting one of the fusion rares. If you're lucky, you may even get two, which may mean you don't even end up needing the epic.

I would start by using the mystery shards and then, if you end up needing to, see what you need to use then. Chances are you'll only need to use on sacred to finish it off.

You always give me good advice.  Thanks.  


You should be a gambler.  Or working for one of the casinos setting odds.  

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 15, 2022, 22:5606/15/22
12/30/20
5393

Kram nailed it. It's better to think of opening those specific shards during their highest value opportunities - like a 2x - in the long term, rather than just each time you open them. 

Jun 16, 2022, 04:0306/16/22
05/03/20
1751
dthorne04

Kram nailed it. It's better to think of opening those specific shards during their highest value opportunities - like a 2x - in the long term, rather than just each time you open them. 

If I am going to compete in a fusion every month, I dont win enough shards to wait for 2x.  A few more months I will have that option.  For now, all I can do is hope to save a few void.  

dthorne04Moderator
Jun 16, 2022, 06:4406/16/22
12/30/20
5393
ClosedPoly

If I am going to compete in a fusion every month, I dont win enough shards to wait for 2x.  A few more months I will have that option.  For now, all I can do is hope to save a few void.  

Hopefully for the majority of them you're able to make mysteries work during Summon Rush, maybe with a few Sacreds sprinkled in. 

I do think there can be value early on - especially before you're consistently getting Voids/Sacreds from Doom Tower and UNM CB - in picking and choosing which fusions you want to do, thus saving your resources for the fusions you really want or need for your account.  

Jun 16, 2022, 09:1506/16/22
05/03/20
1751
dthorne04

Hopefully for the majority of them you're able to make mysteries work during Summon Rush, maybe with a few Sacreds sprinkled in. 

I do think there can be value early on - especially before you're consistently getting Voids/Sacreds from Doom Tower and UNM CB - in picking and choosing which fusions you want to do, thus saving your resources for the fusions you really want or need for your account.  

I have been thinking about picking and choosing on the fusion.  Based on what the the forum thinks of the quality of the champ being offered.  

Jun 16, 2022, 14:0806/16/22
03/16/20
48

Are there any summon boost happening tomorrow?? I hate to thnk of wasting sacreds without some kind of boost...