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Classic Arena is Fun! Tag Arena is even better!

Classic Arena is Fun! Tag Arena is even better!

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Jan 10, 2022, 22:4401/10/22
12/19/19
6160

Classic Arena is Fun! Tag Arena is even better!

For Quinn :)

I don't think that exactly....  I think Classic is legacy content for most unless you want to try and do Plat (not for me).  Will be interesting what happens with G5 intro, I am just concerned I will "have" to do more than 5 minutes of it again.  Boo!

Tag Arena is tough, but I do find the dynamic challenge of it to be the most fun content (I haven't made time for hydra yet).  I would spend more time on it if I didn't spend all my time doing dailies, using energy, upgrading gear, blah blah blah.  For me it is the only part of the game that is actually "playing Raid".  To progress in Tag, I need to beat teams with better champs and/or better gear.  Usually both.  My only advantage is the terrible AI, hopefully AI improvements only help PvE and not PvP defense or I am screwed :)

Everything else is just re-running something again, not sure how that is considered fun? That is just me tying up a device for a couple hours during the day and over-night.      

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Jan 10, 2022, 22:5501/10/22
06/20/19
2181

^^ Obligatory post lol.

Most of the game is just logging in for rewards tbh.  I do classic to complete the daily and for medals.  When the gh is full I'm not sure how I'll feel.  I also want to work out more/better teams and maybe someday I'll actually leave up a defense and see if I can't move toward platinum.  Agreed it will be interesting when the new tier system goes live.  

I admit I have not progressed as far in TT as I'd like; need to build better teams; kind of lame for the champs I have. But I do it daily for the advanced quests and to a lessor extent for the gold bars.

Jan 10, 2022, 23:0101/10/22
06/25/20
6445

By far my biggest objection to tag is the number of available matches and the weighting of points for them.

I think tag *could* be fun - it's pretty much the only place in the game you need to constantly be changing ideas. But 20 free runs per day + easily another 20 from refills just kills it. An average tag fight, between planning teams out, loading times, and actually doing the fight, takes around 5-10 minutes for me. I am not going to sit infront of my phone for 2-3 hours just to be competitive in tag.

Reduce the number of free runs to 3, give one tag refill that adds 3 more, and don't allow buying of refills. Keep everything else the same. That'll make it interesting.

Jan 10, 2022, 23:1701/10/22
01/19/21
642

Just another 39749 gold medals to go...

harleQuinnModerator
Jan 11, 2022, 00:5201/11/22
02/24/19
7498

A thread, just for me?

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Jan 11, 2022, 04:0001/11/22
03/18/20
305

😂😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 

Jan 11, 2022, 17:0101/11/22
12/19/19
6160
kramaswamy.kr

By far my biggest objection to tag is the number of available matches and the weighting of points for them.

I think tag *could* be fun - it's pretty much the only place in the game you need to constantly be changing ideas. But 20 free runs per day + easily another 20 from refills just kills it. An average tag fight, between planning teams out, loading times, and actually doing the fight, takes around 5-10 minutes for me. I am not going to sit infront of my phone for 2-3 hours just to be competitive in tag.

Reduce the number of free runs to 3, give one tag refill that adds 3 more, and don't allow buying of refills. Keep everything else the same. That'll make it interesting.

Hmm...

So we tell noobs to grind until their eyes bleed to compete in classic G4, but this ask for a maximum of 6 tag matches per day to allow everyone to compete in tag casually is a way to make it "interesting" ...

Get good should apply the same to classic and tag, no?

Jan 11, 2022, 20:1201/11/22
10/15/20
866

I might enjoy tag if i didnt already feel like doing just my dailies was a full time job

Even when not actively playing i have something or other running on auto click half the evening.

Have never gone higher than S4.


Jan 11, 2022, 22:4301/11/22
05/26/20
127

Advancing in tag is a 10,000 foot wall.


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harleQuinnModerator
Jan 11, 2022, 23:1901/11/22
02/24/19
7498

@Trips When you DO find time for Hydra, you may find that Tag is still your favorite content. I have not enjoyed the Hydra experience at all, so far.

dthorne04Moderator
Jan 12, 2022, 00:1401/12/22
12/30/20
5657
harleQuinn

@Trips When you DO find time for Hydra, you may find that Tag is still your favorite content. I have not enjoyed the Hydra experience at all, so far.

Am I the lone masochist on the forum who actually kind of enjoys hydra, and definitely more than tag? 

Jan 12, 2022, 00:5501/12/22
02/14/21
505
dthorne04

Am I the lone masochist on the forum who actually kind of enjoys hydra, and definitely more than tag? 

yes yes you are, because it has almost over taken my loatheing of PVP in this game but not yet but soon and it has only been out a month 😁

harleQuinnModerator
Jan 12, 2022, 00:5601/12/22
02/24/19
7498
dthorne04

Am I the lone masochist on the forum who actually kind of enjoys hydra, and definitely more than tag? 

You might be. I do not enjoy it. The needing to do things 10x or more in the hope of RNG working out in your favor drives me nuts.

I like to use my game time building teams that can Full Auto content. whether DT, CB, arena, etc... And Hydra is the opposite of that. You build a team, then spend an hour or more trying to get a specific champ swallowed, a specific head to respawn, a block buffs to possibly land, and if that doesn't happen, the run is over. Regroup, manual again.

dthorne04Moderator
Jan 12, 2022, 01:4601/12/22
12/30/20
5657
harleQuinn

You might be. I do not enjoy it. The needing to do things 10x or more in the hope of RNG working out in your favor drives me nuts.

I like to use my game time building teams that can Full Auto content. whether DT, CB, arena, etc... And Hydra is the opposite of that. You build a team, then spend an hour or more trying to get a specific champ swallowed, a specific head to respawn, a block buffs to possibly land, and if that doesn't happen, the run is over. Regroup, manual again.

I don't know if this is full auto-able (due to needing to maximize Geo A3 with head of Wrath proc'ing vengeance) but I can tell you through two runs it has had about zero variance (150 and 180 turns, second run included more HP for Geo, more DEF/HP for brago)


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Jan 12, 2022, 02:1001/12/22
01/19/21
642

The hydra is just too much to keep track of at once for me. It's not so much that I couldn't if I really wanted to, but it's just exhausting and never seems to work out anyway whenever some random buff or debuff lands or misses. I just try to hit the top chest on normal with as little effort as I can get away with and leave it at that (which this rotation could've been a 1 key affair, had I used my 2nd team initially).

Jan 12, 2022, 04:1501/12/22
11/29/20
405

I think harle nailed it.  99.9% of the end game playerbase that should actually be fighting hydra, can't stand hydra.  I think i've ran into 2 or 3 people that enjoy the manual/RNG aspect of it.

Everyone else see's it as a giant time waster, throw in your team, hope for rng, reset when it doesn't hit your way, repeat until you get a score you're happy with and keep a close eye on it the entire run so you can manual when you need too.  Not enjoyable.

People are screaming for QoL improvements to spend less time in the game.  This is the opposite.

I really enjoy DT and have many challenges left in it, grinding out some of the higher level DT hard secret rooms is going to take some effort and I actually look forward to a lot of them.  With Hydra I'm just building 3 identical champs and trying to gear them.... what's the fun in that?

And just to be somewhat on topic and bring this back around... what are peoples thoughts on the need to run hydra?  Think the gear is going to become meta in arena so we'll all need it to stay competitive?

Jan 12, 2022, 04:5401/12/22
10/01/21
106
harleQuinn

A thread, just for me?

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eewww red hair

harleQuinnModerator
Jan 12, 2022, 07:2501/12/22
02/24/19
7498
sample15

eewww red hair

What's wrong with red hair, hmm?

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Jan 12, 2022, 10:2301/12/22
10/15/20
866
dthorne04

Am I the lone masochist on the forum who actually kind of enjoys hydra, and definitely more than tag? 

I am in a fairly decent clan, about half of us have finished doom tower hard, so we are a late midgame clan and suitable for hydra

But only half used their hydra keys this cycle, the feedback seems overwhelmingly negative. 

Jan 12, 2022, 10:4801/12/22
02/14/21
505

I am really starting to think that Plarium is forgeting that Games should be fun.

Jan 12, 2022, 14:3201/12/22
04/02/19
200
Trips

Hmm...

So we tell noobs to grind until their eyes bleed to compete in classic G4, but this ask for a maximum of 6 tag matches per day to allow everyone to compete in tag casually is a way to make it "interesting" ...

Get good should apply the same to classic and tag, no?

I don't think 'get gud' can apply to TAG the way it's set up, classic yes of course, but at some point in TAG you are going to hit a wall and unless you're a super whale not many will have offensive teams to beat the heavy defence teams and also have their own defense to deter the feeding near reset