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Skill Upgrade question

Skill Upgrade question

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2 дек. 2020, 04:2402.12.20
07.12.19
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Skill Upgrade question

Are skill chance upgrades additive or multiplicative?

I understand some skill upgrades are multiplicative but had assumed the chance increases were additive (e.g. 80% chance to place a provoke would be 100% chance after two +10% chance upgrades).

I am hoping someone here can clear things up or point me in the right direction.

I am posting two links below to an example of where Umbral Enchantress with 80% chance plus two 10% chance upgrades, fails to place a provoke on all of the target champions, in this case, Apothecary was not provoked, and I didn't see any text (i.e. resist) scroll by to indicate a reason.

The second link is to a short video showing Umbrals skills and upgrades.


Example of provoke not being placed - https://youtu.be/20LJ4WYJFFQ?t=23

Umbral Enchantress Skill - https://youtu.be/F9MTPBk3NYo


Thank you all, and stay safe.


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2 дек. 2020, 07:5302.12.20
14.04.20
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Your understanding is correct... I don't know any reason why it would fail to apply on Apo other than him resisting it, but then that should have been shown. At a minimum, it's a visual bug failing to show the resist, or it could be another kind of bug. 

2 дек. 2020, 09:2602.12.20
16.05.19
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Not a bug. Your Umbral hit the Apothecary for more than 25% of his HP and activated his Resurgent mastery- so the provoke was essentially removed simultaneously as it was placed. 

Usual Umbral Enchantress builds avoid crits to avoid this from happening. 

2 дек. 2020, 10:1002.12.20
2 дек. 2020, 10:36(отредактировано)
07.12.19
30

Thank you L9753 and Lxzy, I will alter my Umbral to avoid crits.

Does the Resurgent mastery not display a "Remove Debuff" message when a counter-attack is activated?

I noticed the message occurs when a debuff is removed without a counter-attack but fail to see any "Remove Debuff" message with a counter-attack.

Below are examples of what I mean, in addition to the prior posting with the Apothecary.


The first, shows Madame having a debuff removed when taking 25%+ damage. At 27 seconds into the video, there is a "Remove Debuff" that scrolls up. https://youtu.be/kjqxulRDNvw?t=26


The second, shows Martyr doing the same as the Apothecary in the prior posting, and again, the only messages that scrolls by aside from the damage amount are "Counterattack". https://youtu.be/_0B5o5FiziM?t=24


It is a little confusing to know what happened when the text message is displayed in one instance, and not another. I had assumed the Provoke didn't activate, as no message is displayed when a champion's skill does not activate.


I do appreciate your reply and hope my slight rant does not imply otherwise.

Thank you,