Great thank you :)

i have to use doompriest with kael for 12-3 as he just doesn't have quite enough to farm on his own.

Fromtheflamez said:

Great thank you :)

i have to use doompriest with kael for 12-3 as he just doesn't have quite enough to farm on his own.

ill concentrate on those first then.

Do you use lifesteal set on Kael? Have you unlocked his masteries for 800 gems? Something is wrong there. Losing 1/3 exp every run is harsh.

SunnyRay said:

Fromtheflamez said:

Great thank you :)

i have to use doompriest with kael for 12-3 as he just doesn't have quite enough to farm on his own.

ill concentrate on those first then.

Do you use lifesteal set on Kael? Have you unlocked his masteries for 800 gems? Something is wrong there. Losing 1/3 exp every run is harsh.

Hi, i do have lifesteal (all 5*) but not unlocked his materies yet, i was trying to do it without the gems...is that going to take me a loooong time? :)

If you want to focus on clan boss:

Aothar

For dungeons (what I would try to do first is minotaur 15), for that the best is Lightsworn, doompriest or executioner.

There is always an eternal debate about what is better to go up to the beginning, I can only say that my first 60 was an executioner and thanks to him I had a brutal campaign farmer and I was able to make minotaur 15 and spider until approximately 8 (although I do not remember very well) .

Pd: Many people will hate me for saying executioner of the first character, but I'm sorry, it's a reality xD

Fromtheflamez said:

Hi, i do have lifesteal (all 5*) but not unlocked his materies yet, i was trying to do it without the gems...is that going to take me a loooong time? :)

I do it with gems. Have 6 level 60s atm, all masteries unlocked with gems.

Unlocking all masteries with Mino stage 15 costs (950/9 + 600/13.5 + 100/28) * 14 = 2150 energy. 

20 refills cost 800 gems. You need less. You save some gems running max stage. The more your level, the more you save. Paying with time that could be spent on tournaments that give you gems.

At stage 14 it's 2688 energy, you break even if your max energy is 134. At this level you are probably able to beat stage 15.

TLDR: Running any mino stage before 15 is a net loss. Running stage 15 gives some profit, but not enough to justify spending time on it unless your level is high.

This is my choice. It doesn't have to be correct. The math I wrote here can be incorrect too :) 

May do Mino later when I kill him under a minute and have more max energy. I'm sure it isn't worth it for the first 4 champions (they can carry the 5th at mino after that).

If you want to focus on clan boss:

Aothar

For dungeons (what I would try to do first is minotaur 15), for that the best is Lightsworn, doompriest or executioner.

There is always an eternal debate about what is better to go up to the beginning, I can only say that my first 60 was an executioner and thanks to him I had a brutal campaign farmer and I was able to make minotaur 15 and spider until approximately 8 (although I do not remember very well) .

Pd: Many people will hate me for saying executioner of the first character, but I'm sorry, it's a reality xD

Fromtheflamez said:

Hi, i do have lifesteal (all 5*) but not unlocked his materies yet, i was trying to do it without the gems...is that going to take me a loooong time? :)

I do it with gems. Have 6 level 60s atm, all masteries unlocked with gems.

Unlocking all masteries with Mino stage 15 costs (950/9 + 600/13.5 + 100/28) * 14 = 2150 energy. 

20 refills cost 800 gems. You need less. You save some gems running max stage. The more your level, the more you save. Paying with time that could be spent on tournaments that give you gems.

At stage 14 it's 2688 energy, you break even if your max energy is 134. At this level you are probably able to beat stage 15.

TLDR: Running any mino stage before 15 is a net loss. Running stage 15 gives some profit, but not enough to justify spending time on it unless your level is high.

This is my choice. It doesn't have to be correct. The math I wrote here can be incorrect too :) 

May do Mino later when I kill him under a minute and have more max energy. I'm sure it isn't worth it for the first 4 champions (they can carry the 5th at mino after that).

SunnyRay said:

Fromtheflamez said:

At stage 14 it's 2688 energy, you break even if your max energy is 134. At this level you are probably able to beat stage 15.

There is some way to get more then 130 max energy in this game? 

SunnyRay said:

Fromtheflamez said:

At stage 14 it's 2688 energy, you break even if your max energy is 134. At this level you are probably able to beat stage 15.

There is some way to get more then 130 max energy in this game? 

And you can save 450 energy (when max is 130) if you run minotaur 15 by yourself.. it is not bad ... energy is all y need every time :)

Kallor said:

There is some way to get more then 130 max energy in this game? 

And you can save 450 energy (when max is 130) if you run minotaur 15 by yourself.. it is not bad ... energy is all y need every time :)

The maximum is 130 energy and there is no way to turn it up, sorry

What is the best gem offer to consider? is it the 9.99 one where they are given over 30 days?

Kallor said:

There is some way to get more then 130 max energy in this game? 

And you can save 450 energy (when max is 130) if you run minotaur 15 by yourself.. it is not bad ... energy is all y need every time :)

My bad, I'm at 126 and thought it continues to give +1 per level.

T3 God said:

Kallor said:

There is some way to get more then 130 max energy in this game? 

And you can save 450 energy (when max is 130) if you run minotaur 15 by yourself.. it is not bad ... energy is all y need every time :)

What champion can you solo minotaur 15 with?  That can't be with all champions?  What gears do you have to allow you to do that?  Sorry, just that I don't think most, if any, of my champions can solo that.  But I could be wrong, because I never dared to think of trying that.

SunnyRay said

Why solo? Once you have 4 champions with maxed masteries you run with them and the one who needs scrolls. It guarantees that all scrolls land on one champ.

Some notable Youtuber advocate this so the 4 heroes can take the XP while getting the masteries.

I honestly don't think it's a good practice, as I'd rather farm my XP at 12.3 while farming silver.

T3 God said:

Kallor said:

There is some way to get more then 130 max energy in this game? 

And you can save 450 energy (when max is 130) if you run minotaur 15 by yourself.. it is not bad ... energy is all y need every time :)

What champion can you solo minotaur 15 with?  That can't be with all champions?  What gears do you have to allow you to do that?  Sorry, just that I don't think most, if any, of my champions can solo that.  But I could be wrong, because I never dared to think of trying that.

Why solo? Once you have 4 champions with maxed masteries you run with them and the one who needs scrolls. It guarantees that all scrolls land on one champ.

T3 God said:

SunnyRay said:

T3 God said:

Kallor said:

There is some way to get more then 130 max energy in this game? 

And you can save 450 energy (when max is 130) if you run minotaur 15 by yourself.. it is not bad ... energy is all y need every time :)

What champion can you solo minotaur 15 with?  That can't be with all champions?  What gears do you have to allow you to do that?  Sorry, just that I don't think most, if any, of my champions can solo that.  But I could be wrong, because I never dared to think of trying that.

Why solo? Once you have 4 champions with maxed masteries you run with them and the one who needs scrolls. It guarantees that all scrolls land on one champ.

But Kallor said "run minotaur by yourself", so I assume that means only 1 champion is used.

I rather suspect that Kallor meant to draw a contrast between paying the 800 gems or 'running minotaur by yourself' - meaning, actually doing all the runs to get the scrolls. Hence the comment about how much energy is saved. How many champs you use while running and whether they are maxed has nothing to do with it.