One small Question about destroying units during clan war

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User
18 September, 2018, 1:26 PM UTC

Using the search button give me only event topics about clan battle so... I o'nt get this answer:


During clan war, we get point when we estroy unit only if the owner is from the opposit clan? Or we get points whatever who is the owner of the units?


By example, a War start betweem clan A and B. If player from clan A destroy units controlled by a guy in Clan C, did he get points?


Thanks!


EDIT: It's "clan Battle" event, not "Clan war" event.
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User
18 September, 2018, 1:58 PM UTC

Ok, after a test from a mate (Who become a Berserker after losing some units from an ally of our rival clan), we get score whatever if the destroyed units is from our rival clan or not.


So.... enjoy!
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User
18 September, 2018, 2:27 PM UTC

Clan A vs Clan B

Clan A gets points only by killing clan B troops

Clan B gets points only by killing clan A troops

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User
19 September, 2018, 12:26 AM UTC

Well I think thats what the title would imply,and that what I thought happened, but thats not what appears to happen..

wait  ... the situation is confused when other competitions are running at the same time, so my thoughts could be wrong.

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CIM
User
19 September, 2018, 4:40 AM UTC
In destroying enemy events it doesn't matter who you kill in cvc and kvk it does.
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User
19 September, 2018, 1:03 PM UTC

(Sorry about my eng skill, It's not my native language ^^ )
In fact, it's a bit more complex than that.


During Clan Battles, there are "Red aura enemies" (Ones from the rival clan), "Blue aura enemies" (????), colourless enemies and Green ally (our clan).


Red and blue enemies give to us score for clan Battles (more from red than blue), neutral don't give score.


New question: who are the "blue" enemies? Are they ally with the reds? from the same kingdom? Because they attacked us during the event?


thanks!

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CIM
User
19 September, 2018, 2:04 PM UTC

AAAAaaarrrg said:


(Sorry about my eng skill, It's not my native language ^^ )
In fact, it's a bit more complex than that.


During Clan Battles, there are "Red aura enemies" (Ones from the rival clan), "Blue aura enemies" (????), colourless enemies and Green ally (our clan).


Red and blue enemies give to us score for clan Battles (more from red than blue), neutral don't give score.


New question: who are the "blue" enemies? Are they ally with the reds? from the same kingdom? Because they attacked us during the event?


thanks!

I do not think it is more complex than I have said ... I take note of a lot of things in game ...the blue does not give you points for cvc ...  the blue is in enemy kingdom but from other kingdoms and they are not your cvc enemy ... in cvc if not blue or not red then they are from the enemy kingdom but not your cvc enemy ... the red are your cvc enemy ...

in kvk there is no blue ...



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CIM
User
19 September, 2018, 2:17 PM UTC

One thing I have noticed and it might confuse people is that for cvc and kvk you do not get points if you win for how much you kill but for the total amount the opposition has in a battle if they lose and you win. jAnd also vice versa ... if the enemy win they get points for the total amount you had ...


If you winner you only lose what you lost.
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User
20 September, 2018, 2:31 AM UTC

Thank you! Now it's clear about blue and red enemies ^^ .


Anyway, we get a big loss due to two vicious tactic, especially this one:
When they see our best teammate becoming Berserk, killing everyone and give to our team a win, they hired in their clan a few stronger players who give reinforcement to the other members of the clan! I don't know how the score is computed this way, because they come AFTER the beginning of cvc, but that conduct them to win the battle and kill totally our Berseker!


CIM said:


One thing I have noticed and it might confuse people is that for cvc and kvk you do not get points if you win for how much you kill but for the total amount the opposition has in a battle if they lose and you win. jAnd also vice versa ... if the enemy win they get points for the total amount you had ...


If you winner you only lose what you lost.

UuuUUuuUUuuuHHh???


You mean the score is obtained after computing the difference between your loss and your victim loss? If you win but lost more troops than enemy, you get no point or lose them?
I see "100 point / kill", no more, so I expected that rule is applied whatever the issue :/ .


Ok... I get headache.... after all... I'm an Orc, and orcs and mathematics are like a love story between an Elf and a Dwarf: deadly!

So let's go to an example with only the same units lvl 1, 100 points / kill:

Case 1:

I win the battle, I was 100.000 vs 10.000 :

kill 10.000 units and lost 5.000 units.

I get 1.000.000 points and he get 500.000 points?

OR

I get 500.000 points and he get 0?

OR

I get 1.500.000 points and he get 0?

OR

I get  Σ (√(1.500.000)/2 x 5.000 + 2πi) degree?


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Let's go harder now with an outsider reinforcement, like the one I mentioned before, it's interesting to know what's happened today:

Case 2:

I Lose the battle, that was 100.000 vs 500.000 (10.000 units + 490.000 units reinforcement, so he represent only 2% of the total force):

I kill 10.000 opponent units, plus 40.000 reinforcement from a "new member" ousider (coming in the clan after the starting of cvc) of his clan who reinforced him.
I lost 100.000 units.


I get 5.000.000 points, he get 10.000.000 points (and the "new member" get 0)?

OR

I get 5.000.000 points, he get 200.000 points (and the "new member" get 0)?

OR

I get 0 points and he get 10.000.000 (and...) ?

OR

I get 0 points and he get 200.000 ?

OR

I get 0 points and he get 5.000.000 ?

OR

I get 0 points and he get 0 ?

OR

I get 4.000.000 (killed reinforcement count?) and he get 200.000?

OR

He get  int{0-6} [Σ (2*√(1.500.000) x 5.000 + 2πi)²x . dx] Celsius?


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CIM
User
20 September, 2018, 3:29 AM UTC

simple example ... tile attack ... all is tier 1 troops ...


they had 15,000 on tile and you tile them ... you kill 12,000 out of 15,000

you sent 100K troops and you lost 848 troops


You get 15,000 x 200 equals 3,000,000 points

they get 848 x 200 equals 169,600 points


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Now those reinforcements can be a real pain ... especially when someone who is not a member of the enemy clan joins the enemy clan and then reinforces ... sometimes this happens ... it could be the new person is a big guy and actually loses no troops because he reinforces with high level troops but the "trap" town is the one who loses some t1 troops ...

I consider what you describe to be a bit of unfair playing ... I would like them to freeze clan members at the time of the cvc match being set up so that such does not happen ... so that no one can join the clan during the middle of battle but still allow people to leave the clan.
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User
20 September, 2018, 3:46 AM UTC

Ok! I get it! Tile attack! Of course! Grupft! It's efficient: you're from the roof and ambush enemy with tiles, Like this day!


Thanks, Orc understand now :D


About this reinforcement method, yeah, it's an unfair move. That's weird because I remember older Plarium games like Stromfall which forbid new member to interfere during competition event during one or two weeks... so why they don't apply this rule here?


Anyway, maybe they will apply that in a future update.... maybe.
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