Kingdoms Battle: Fury and Towers of Fury

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Administrator
4 February, 2019, 6:57 AM UTC

Warriors of the North, we are preparing something interesting specially for the upcoming Kingdoms Battle: Fury 

At various times, special locations – Towers of Fury – will appear in one of the four opponent Kingdoms.

• Towers of Fury contain resources and neutral troops

• Jarls of a Kingdom where Towers of Fury appear can attack these locations or defend them by sending their reinforcements there

• Jarls from enemy Kingdoms can only attack Towers of Fury

• All Vikings will get Soul Shards for destroying neutral troops in Towers of Fury



Let's discuss which is more advantageous for a Kingdom where Towers of Fury appear: attacking them and taking their resources or defending them at all cost?


Keeper of the history of the North, Interpreter of sagas.
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4 February, 2019, 3:24 PM UTC

Hi,


sorry nothing against new updates and new tasks.


But first make your game playable!

e.x. Web GL crash, Intruder and ghost level disordered

Or the last Jotunheim! nothing work. Ok for me not so bad because I not play this stupid money eating only that I disconect very much.


And what is with the wishes of jarls?


e.x. from me,

new bank offer system, i wait now over 14 weeks for Mega offers, the offers that I see are too expensive! or the most have components that I never need

easier selection kind of troops for an e.x. fight. At the moment I have to scroll through the whole list of troops, near, far, murders with all the levels.

neutral talismane that i can use for the shamane what I need, in normal game play you must spend many years to rise the shamane that you only need. And offers for them comes not often. And the most time than are very bad offers.



And the other ask is will this replaces the new event the kvk/kvk revenge or only one. Or it is like Jotunheim at the same time.

At the same time is in my eyes stupid!


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4 February, 2019, 7:18 PM UTC

My suggestion for kvk furry:

- I suggest you make each pop guard based on the total 6 hours either by one time or multi times.

- Or if you prefer " Towers of Fury" then change kingdom location everyday for each kingdom to have fair game. 

Suggestion for the game:

- Better gold offer, since gold is not enough for high troops training boosts, or reduce troops time required.

- Better runes drop, collecting runes become boring

- Make save sets combine with selected shaman

- Better pop report stats, and fix effective of new pop runes

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5 February, 2019, 12:09 AM UTC

• Towers of Fury contain resources and neutral troops

Players do love resources, but the amount available will determine who shows up to claim/defend them. There must be enough available in order to justify the effort required.

• Jarls of a Kingdom where Towers of Fury appear can attack these locations or defend them by sending their reinforcements there

When you say Neutral Troops, how neutral are they? If these troops are killed, are there points awarded to the kingdom that kills them? Does there exist any additional rewards for their survival by defending them?

• Jarls from enemy Kingdoms can only attack Towers of Fury

Similar to above. Are event points awarded for killing the neutral troops? Will points be awarded to home kingdom for losing troops to neutral troops? How difficult will they be to kill?

• All Vikings will get Soul Shards for destroying neutral troops in Towers of Fury

This would lead me to believe they are entirely separate from the event. For example, destroying neutral troops is similar to destroying troops of players who recently moved to a kingdom and are not participating in the event (Bright Yellow).

Let's discuss which is more advantageous for a Kingdom where Towers of Fury appear: attacking them and taking their resources or defending them at all cost?

If the troops inside are completely neutral and only reward soul shards, then why defend them? Also, if there is no risk of points for the events, what is the fear of attempting to destroy them?



The neutral troops plus the option to attack/defend by the home kingdom makes me wonder if there is any purpose to defend? Unless more details were shared on what this all entails, or that I am missing something completely; it would appear that a smash & grab job for all the resources is the best strategy.

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6 February, 2019, 3:35 PM UTC

we are fighting a clan who up to 0800 had just under 1 bill points to our just over 3 bill points, in less than 8 hours they now have over 5 bill points to our just over 4 bill how is that possible with only 3 maybe 4 active players


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6 February, 2019, 9:32 PM UTC

wolfinsheeps said:


we are fighting a clan who up to 0800 had just under 1 bill points to our just over 3 bill points, in less than 8 hours they now have over 5 bill points to our just over 4 bill how is that possible with only 3 maybe 4 active players


Imagine that the reason is...they spent money to get the points they need rather than do the various activities to earn points. Look at the Clan Versus Clan comparables to see where they earned all their points...You can access it on the tab that selects the Clan v Clan in the Events Window and then the Clans Tab and then Competition Statistics...there you will find comparables to show in which categories your Clan has earned points versus the categories where your opponents earned points....


ps...the same information is available for Kingdom Competitions...





A little knowledge goes a long way...a little research makes your knowledge go much further!

Live through the blood of your foes! Exalt in the lamentations of their women and children!
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7 February, 2019, 4:45 PM UTC

With only the barest of bare bones given in the announcement there is not much of a basis for speculation.  However it seems to me a fair guess that the Towers will have enough troops to fend off attacks by a single player (unless very big).  So my small clan is having a look at our onslaught capacity.


If there is an opportunity for small and medium sized clans to onslaught I will welcome that.   It is a part of the game which large clans can perfect (or at least work on) whereas small and medium sized clans may well never, or rarely, get involved in.
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7 February, 2019, 10:53 PM UTC
Fix the packs offers  in bank and than talk about new battle , the prices are going crazy and very expensive ,everything is 99.99$ and 49.99$ from my side , this is not fair for most of countries ,how do you need us play with this increasing in prices and they are not even packs we need , why dont you fix some packs prices so everyone can purchase and have fun , you are killing this game and that's the reason why every kingdom has only few playes playing and most of players abonded.This is important if you want people keep playing .Packs prices 
Abdelyllah Bouchouicha
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8 February, 2019, 7:12 AM UTC

If you would give more detailed information about how much troops / strengh of them and ress are available we could help you answering your question. If it´s kind of reward you get from winning cvc than i would say i wont loose troops for this meager outcome. CVC is fun but there is no need to win for mid or higher clans because 3 people will produce this amount of ress in one day 

. The only benefit is the Town Skin...but so much effort for a 5% difference compared to kvk-townskin ?? Nooo 


After all i am open to new content. But dont be too gready with your maintenance gifts during launching this.


The shortest distance between two points is a Line
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9 February, 2019, 1:32 PM UTC

This could be the greatest update since I play, if you give the opponents a real reason to fight! Because this is no war game anymore in my opinion.


1. You deleted the option to hide troops in traps (OS), that's way more fair, but the result was way less fighting.

2. You made shielding faster = less fighting.

3. You made the pure p2w KvK:R event = less fighting.


So there is only KvK and CvC for real fights, but:

1. KvK. Especially against older and smaller Kingdoms it's easy to outnumber them and win by farming, even if they have way better fighters.

2. CvC. The points for Training are so high that it's very easy to p2w a CvC and a lot of clans do this instead of fighting.

3. Since hiding troops isn't longer possible, you can calculate the result of a fight. So with the options above to win, why do someone should fight anymore if he isn't sure to win?


Last but not least there is Jothunheim and that's the only real war Event in this game!!! I love it but:

1. It's way to buggy and I don't believe you will be able to bring all that towns bug free on one map ever.

2. Even for me 82B and my Teammate 75B it's very risky to open a trap and it's over after 1-5 minutes of thrill.

3. It's very expensive for this short fun and 98% of all players can't play there at all.


So this game has become more and more boring. But me and my friends don't spend 200-300€/month to be bored, we like to fight (Same for the small spenders I know from my and other Clans).


So make the Fury event a fight event, without a p2w option (We can train in all the other p2w events).

Make the bot troops in Tower of Fury worth to kill or to protect. Don't make them 100% neutral, force the players to fight in this "war" game if they like to win. Because if we win each war without fighting, it's no war.

Make it worth to attack the reinforced Tower of Fury of the opponents. If it's like POP or "trap" it's just another useless spot where players waiting hours and nobody attack. Because they DON'T NEED to attack. So give them a important reason to risk there troops. If we have a reason to loose troops we have also a reason to train new troops instead of collecting millions over millions by pure p2w.

And make it impossible to spy the Tower of Fury!!! Or find another way to make it impossible to calculate the result of the fight before. That are the main keys to force people to fight: Important reason and unsure result!


Regards

BK_Viking





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9 February, 2019, 1:47 PM UTC

Hi,


BK_Viking:


You want fight, I want this too.

BUT, I never will spend 200-300EUR/month!!!

In my eyes is it stupid to spend more than 10-20EUR/month for a browser game!!

I play ESO and I pay only 12EUR/month (only for the item bag). (and 40EUR for one time buy) And this game had more gameplay than this browser game!

Or Battlefield 5 only one time pay 40-50EUR. And you have much more.


And I am not the only one that think the same. The most players never will pay so many.


You can do it and all other too but do not wonder why the kingdoms die more and more.


All offers what I get are too expensive. e.x. what should i do with 300 Talismane Ulf or Wenda for 10 EUR?????

Or 4,8 Million gold for 10 EUR? I can do 1 or 2 research.


The only way where that Plarium make a game where jarls like you can play and jarls like me!

e.x. game with maximum spend 250-300EUR a year and a game over this.



What I see is that the game die more and more since you can have so many troops that you want. I start the game where the food production give the numbers of troops that you can have!! No food production no new troops! That was the best!

BUT not for Plarium. NO MONEY, so the make the most new updates only to earn more and more money. All offers goes more and more worse. See now, over 14 weeks and no mega offers!! I think they not come again!




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11 February, 2019, 10:01 PM UTC

We did a few hours of brainstorming for the new Event, to give the developers some advice from experienced players who love the game.



Targets:

1. More fighting = Again more fun for (old) players, to stop the boredom and the quitting = More reason for the p2w (troop training) in other events, because of more troop looses.

2. Fair balance between weak and strong Clans = Same benefit in fun for small and high spenders.



Solution:

1. Make the neutral troops in the Tower of Fury random in troop types, troop tier, number of troops and troop strength. This will make it a challenge for weak and for strong Clans to beat them!

2. Let the Tower of Fury burn if all troops are killed AND spend the Attacker points, for the Kingdoms battle of Fury, if he burn the Tower. NOT for killing neutral troops ONLY if the Tower got burned successfull. Spend more points, the stronger the Tower was reinforced by the neutral troops. This will make it absolutely necessary to fight the towers, if a Kingdom like to win (No one really care, or get forced to fight, for the soul shards or the rss).

3. Don't show in spy report if the Tower has only neutral troops or if he is reinforced by players too. This will make it possible for the reinforcers to get points for the Kingdoms battle of Fury. They can use the neutral troops for meat, they can reinforce more if the Tower is short to burn and they can left the tower if the next hit will burn it. This way the defender has the possibility to earn more points than the attacker, even if he is weaker, but he need to play very smart.

4. All 4 Kingdoms need to get the Towers during the event. There need to be enought Towers, to be sure not all are reinforced from players (strong players). No p2w option with troop training during this event.



Result:

It's not possible to win this Event without any fighting.

Also weak players and low spenders can help Reinforce, Attack and OS Towers to make there KD win.

It's possible to win the Event by attacking and by defending the towers, so each player can find out what he like most.

The teamwork in clan and kingdom is way more important than in all other events. It's not enought to spy and calculate, to be sure to win the most points. Players need to be smart and find the tactic that fits the clan and Kingdom most.

Last but not least, the POPs and traps will become places of way more risk and fights. Because you can't focus all your power on it for hours, if the other Kingdoms do points with the towers. So this will be a war on all fronts at the same time!!!




Best regards

BK_Viking



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12 February, 2019, 4:12 PM UTC

Hi,


it look good what you write.


But first Plarium should make the game bug free!

No Crash with browser version! (one Uber crash at the moment) I can not make any attack without that a crash could come at the moment.


And than it is very importnant that the balance will be changed!

Small clans and big clans.

Small clans with not much members have no chance in clan events to get the higher level in the event.

The events and the prize should be dependent from the member numbers.


AND new bank offer system!!

It is too expensive. 4,8 Million Gold for 10EUR e.x. is too less.

OR change the times and resources that you need for research!

2nd e.x. shamane energie offers are too expensive too for what you get.


Short say Plarium play your game and you see what must be changed!!


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13 February, 2019, 7:37 AM UTC

Abdouinelec said:


Fix the packs offers  in bank and than talk about new battle , the prices are going crazy and very expensive ,everything is 99.99$ and 49.99$ from my side , this is not fair for most of countries ,how do you need us play with this increasing in prices and they are not even packs we need , why dont you fix some packs prices so everyone can purchase and have fun , you are killing this game and that's the reason why every kingdom has only few playes playing and most of players abonded.This is important if you want people keep playing .Packs prices 

Dear Jarl,

We assure you that the ingame price policy is constantly analyzed by our specialists. This way every player has the opportunity of getting the desired offer. This system is designed to make players who prefer buying offers and those who do not use the Bank equal. To find an offer that is suitable for you, we recommend to monitor changes in the Bank. The offer you want will certainly appear.

If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. Enjoy the game!

Bearer of the highest Knowledge
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13 February, 2019, 9:09 AM UTC

Hi,


Ivar,


your offer system not work!

In the past you get after 8 weeks with no buying you get the normal offers ( I write normal because all other offer before are JOKES ).

Some offers are better and some are bad like in the past.

After 12 weeks you get the Mega Offers.

BUT I wait over 15 weeks now and no MEGA offers!

So why I get no MEGA offers???

And please not write your system managed this. If it delete your system!

I write it again this is a browser game and normal for playing it must be enough to spend 120-240EUR in a year. But with your prices and offers you can not play this game when you play the time like me!!


Play your game and you see what I mean and all other players!!!!



AND AGAIN PLEASE FIX THE WEBGL CRASH!!!! Again not kill one Uber and Crash!!!!



This e.x. offers should be after 12 weeks waiting!!!



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13 February, 2019, 1:26 PM UTC

AND new bank offer system!!

It is too expensive. 4,8 Million Gold for 10EUR e.x. is too less.

OR change the times and resources that you need for research!

2nd e.x. shamane energie offers are too expensive too for what you get.


Sorry, but that's absolutely wrong.

First of all best mega offer is 32M Gold for 20€ now and that's WAY enough.

But second and most important point, this game is NOT limited in spending. If this is your main problem, the only solution is to quit!

If you buy 4,8M Gold for 10€, than me and others will buy 50M+ Gold. If Plarium rise this and spend you 50M Gold for 10€, me and others will buy 500M+ Gold. And full maxed account will be for ever, only available for the top 5% spenders. So even if you get 50M Gold for your 10€ and you build a 60B account, other players like me will have already a 800B account.

So don't be "stupid", if Plarium lowers the offer price or rise the amount of items you get. You have NOT ANY benefit, but ALL the money you already spend in your account is less worth. So if you spend 20€/month for 2 years, is your account about 500€ worth. If Plarium lowers the price and spend 32M/20€ Gold instead of 2M/20€. Your account is not 500€ worth anymore, because each newbie can build your account for 31,25€!!!

So don't tell Plarium to make the offers frequently better and better! That's the worst case what could happen, for ALL players who spend money in this game!


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13 February, 2019, 1:31 PM UTC

You have the right to voice your concerns, but you mention offers that you consider poor value,which are far better than some players see. 

I also think  that the big offers, and their frequency of appearance that you talk about  is real, and the system would appear to have changed.


I wouldn't think the developers have time to play the game, and they shouldn't really need to, if all aspects of the game are working.

If the offer system is working as it should, which we cant tell if is or not,and we are aware that sometime in the past it wasn't, which could mean its broken again, they would need an awful lots of testers of different playing styles to get some data??

 I would say that the statement

"

This system is designed to make players who prefer buying offers and those who do not use the Bank equal. "

Is impossible, and even more so now that the game has become much bigger, if you don't buy any offers you cannot progress very far in the game.

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15 March, 2019, 5:18 AM UTC
I hope it will contain a new town skin as a checkpoint.
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16 March, 2019, 12:58 PM UTC
The next ¿Battle clan Fury ? 4 clans in battle
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22 March, 2019, 11:38 AM UTC
I find it HIGHLY FRUSTRATING that I am STILL PUNISHED WITH NO POINTS after rejoigning my clan several days ago, just during the last kvk battle. I expected to be able to help my clan in this FURY event several days later, but NO; I CANNOT MAKE POINTS because I was NOT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE FORMER KVK member of th elan. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. How can you link the two events!!! this is brain-damager, IMHO....
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