All about infests

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Kylo Ren
23 April, 2015, 8:38 PM UTC

Yeah 

Very true 

Sadly I'm Stuck 

Still got bunch some lvl 30's that i want to get rid of which i will once i get my pay

and some lvl 40's and 50's and 60's and 70's and 2 80's  and couple of Imperial missions that i will never do 

Im gonna quickly build up for 

http://prntscr.com/6xdeb6 either the lvl 51 defence or 63 offence or 41 offence

If I get a good pay from my 41 it could almost be enough to kill my 51 then use that to kill one of my 60's and then use that to hit my main target

which now would be  lvl 77 or 78 

if that doesn't work I'm gonna just blow up in anger

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CK-Pimp Diggler
23 April, 2015, 9:17 PM UTC

CK Black Mask said:

Yeah 

Very true 

Sadly I'm Stuck 

Still got bunch some lvl 30's that i want to get rid of which i will once i get my pay

and some lvl 40's and 50's and 60's and 70's and 2 80's  and couple of Imperial missions that i will never do 

Im gonna quickly build up for 

http://prntscr.com/6xdeb6 either the lvl 51 defence or 63 offence or 41 offence

If I get a good pay from my 41 it could almost be enough to kill my 51 then use that to kill one of my 60's and then use that to hit my main target

which now would be  lvl 77 or 78 

if that doesn't work I'm gonna just blow up in anger


I hope you are ready to blow up in anger LOL

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BiohazarD
Moderator
23 April, 2015, 9:39 PM UTC

CK-Pimp Diggler said:

CK Black Mask said:

Yeah 

Very true 

Sadly I'm Stuck 

Still got bunch some lvl 30's that i want to get rid of which i will once i get my pay

and some lvl 40's and 50's and 60's and 70's and 2 80's  and couple of Imperial missions that i will never do 

Im gonna quickly build up for 

http://prntscr.com/6xdeb6 either the lvl 51 defence or 63 offence or 41 offence

If I get a good pay from my 41 it could almost be enough to kill my 51 then use that to kill one of my 60's and then use that to hit my main target

which now would be  lvl 77 or 78 

if that doesn't work I'm gonna just blow up in anger


I hope you are ready to blow up in anger LOL

Yeah, chaining payouts like that doesn't work well, each time you do an overloaded payout you lose a bit. 

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CK-Pimp Diggler
24 April, 2015, 12:05 AM UTC

BiohazarD said:

CK-Pimp Diggler said:

CK Black Mask said:

Yeah 

Very true 

Sadly I'm Stuck 

Still got bunch some lvl 30's that i want to get rid of which i will once i get my pay

and some lvl 40's and 50's and 60's and 70's and 2 80's  and couple of Imperial missions that i will never do 

Im gonna quickly build up for 

http://prntscr.com/6xdeb6 either the lvl 51 defence or 63 offence or 41 offence

If I get a good pay from my 41 it could almost be enough to kill my 51 then use that to kill one of my 60's and then use that to hit my main target

which now would be  lvl 77 or 78 

if that doesn't work I'm gonna just blow up in anger


I hope you are ready to blow up in anger LOL

Yeah, chaining payouts like that doesn't work well, each time you do an overloaded payout you lose a bit. 

 

 

True I think something to the tune of 10-20% if I am not mistaken BUT things like this should also be transparent as well.  Im not sure of any bank in the World that charges a 10% withdrawal fee if they did they would be out of business in a hurry....

 

The infest mechanics are quite stupid, when its all said and done we just tolerate it because at this point we have assumed enough about how they work.

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AlphaWolf
26 April, 2015, 12:24 PM UTC

In case we were over banked and killed a site which payed back 80% of the invested resources, will we get back the rest 20% later some time? Or is the 20% lost?

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BiohazarD
Moderator
26 April, 2015, 8:07 PM UTC

AlphaWolf said:

In case we were over banked and killed a site which payed back 80% of the invested resources, will we get back the rest 20% later some time? Or is the 20% lost?

It's usually lost, although if you only got 80% there might be a bit left, you usually seem to lose about 5% from an overbanked payout (of course if you do multiple overbanked payouts before you get everything right for a normal one it can add up). 

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Saad Malik
27 April, 2015, 8:49 AM UTC

so the second highest level infest always pay the full bank amount no matter how less it is. Or does it need to have certain amount pushed in the bank for getting payout from the second highest level?

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Kamran
27 April, 2015, 2:54 PM UTC

CK-Pimp Diggler said:

CK Black Mask said:

Well Said Rhylain .

I Completely agree .

Which is why I accounced on the Research time threat I'm not gonna spend money here anymore .

 

Now onto infests 

I have banked more than enough resources to the infest 

But I still havent gotten a proper payout , I keep getting small ones that

I'm on  level 82 fests that my highest but I do them just to kill my troops and make sure I have enough to kill one of my level 70's to flip my main payout . but its not working 

I hit a level 76 infest which was Supposed to pay me since a lvl 76 should only take 35-42 million res into my bank

http://prntscr.com/6x405t

that was what I had at the time

when I lost my troops at lvl 76 

I got no payout 

and this is how my bank is now

http://prntscr.com/6x407y

This Game is Cheating on me .

Now I'm STUCK 

Unless I go and pay 700 bucks for 140k of crystals so I can infirm my troops 

Oh well 

I don't spend here anymore

Point being . I've invested more than enough resources into the Infest Bank and i didn't get a pay and I want to know why ? . 

 

 

Same thing was happening to me and he claims nothing has changed when its obvious things have definitely changed then he has the nerve to ask for respect when he is clearly insulting our intelligence by acting like nothing is wrong and w e just need to clear our cache and remove our cookies...

 

If nothing is wrong then they should outline the infest process step by step so there is no confusion anymore.  Tell us EXACTLY how it works including all the numbers for bank and all of the criteria that needs to be met for a payout.  A little transparency goes a long way and may help you salvage whats left of this rapidly declining abomination of a game.

Well said.

@Genera W.

with all due respect that you deserve, genera. But please don't forget that you are supposed to command and guide us in this war which is mainly against Morgana and the Mutants, not among the commanders. But sadly, you never have given us any clear outline regarding Infestations, we keep on loosing our units every day in infestations while hoping for profit on units and becoming stronger to fight more bravely against mutants. The Moderators on this forum say something else, which we do exactly as told and happens something else in the game. and then they say "If you don't do it right, it does not mean that our method is not right". For God sake stop making it worse. All we need is a clear outline regarding the infestations explaining every outcome while doing infestation, because now it might be clear to all of you that moderators are not able to deliver what they have in their minds regarding infestations. If you can not provide it, you no longer deserve the respect which you ask as a General. Sorry, but I am not wrong. Thank you !!!

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BiohazarD
Moderator
27 April, 2015, 11:47 PM UTC

Kamran said:

CK-Pimp Diggler said:

CK Black Mask said:

Well Said Rhylain .

I Completely agree .

Which is why I accounced on the Research time threat I'm not gonna spend money here anymore .

 

Now onto infests 

I have banked more than enough resources to the infest 

But I still havent gotten a proper payout , I keep getting small ones that

I'm on  level 82 fests that my highest but I do them just to kill my troops and make sure I have enough to kill one of my level 70's to flip my main payout . but its not working 

I hit a level 76 infest which was Supposed to pay me since a lvl 76 should only take 35-42 million res into my bank

http://prntscr.com/6x405t

that was what I had at the time

when I lost my troops at lvl 76 

I got no payout 

and this is how my bank is now

http://prntscr.com/6x407y

This Game is Cheating on me .

Now I'm STUCK 

Unless I go and pay 700 bucks for 140k of crystals so I can infirm my troops 

Oh well 

I don't spend here anymore

Point being . I've invested more than enough resources into the Infest Bank and i didn't get a pay and I want to know why ? . 

 

 

Same thing was happening to me and he claims nothing has changed when its obvious things have definitely changed then he has the nerve to ask for respect when he is clearly insulting our intelligence by acting like nothing is wrong and w e just need to clear our cache and remove our cookies...

 

If nothing is wrong then they should outline the infest process step by step so there is no confusion anymore.  Tell us EXACTLY how it works including all the numbers for bank and all of the criteria that needs to be met for a payout.  A little transparency goes a long way and may help you salvage whats left of this rapidly declining abomination of a game.

Well said.

@Genera W.

with all due respect that you deserve, genera. But please don't forget that you are supposed to command and guide us in this war which is mainly against Morgana and the Mutants, not among the commanders. But sadly, you never have given us any clear outline regarding Infestations, we keep on loosing our units every day in infestations while hoping for profit on units and becoming stronger to fight more bravely against mutants. The Moderators on this forum say something else, which we do exactly as told and happens something else in the game. and then they say "If you don't do it right, it does not mean that our method is not right". For God sake stop making it worse. All we need is a clear outline regarding the infestations explaining every outcome while doing infestation, because now it might be clear to all of you that moderators are not able to deliver what they have in their minds regarding infestations. If you can not provide it, you no longer deserve the respect which you ask as a General. Sorry, but I am not wrong. Thank you !!!

I never claimed that I had a foolproof method, I just collected some data and made recommendations on what I thought would be the best way to do infests.  Moderators aren't given any special information regarding infestations that other players don't have access to, I just make guesses based on my experience and the information I gather from friends/clanmates in order to help give other players some idea of how to go about doing the infests.  You're welcome to listen, or not, I don't really care either way. 

 

@Saad Malik

The second highest level infest just has the best chance of giving you a good payout, it isn't guaranteed.  I've found it works well if I go for the second highest and load it to about 80-90% of the banking value then kill it, I usually get back the full banking value so I make some profit. 

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harrys
28 April, 2015, 6:15 AM UTC

Hi Guys. I´m Harry from germany, so sorry for my bad englich :-)
i need some help from you please.

As i tried your recommendation to do invests, i decide to start a new sector all over. I take this excel liste an reset it to zero values.

1. i send one soldier to a level 1 invest (no killes on my side) and got a receive from 2 soldiers (strange, because the bank should be empty)

2. i send 6 times 1 soldier to a level 2 invest (all killed) an finally 5 soldiers to destrio the invest, and i receive 10 soldiers and 2 Galdis.

3. i send 7 soldiers to a level 3 invest (6 killed) and i recieve 12 soldiers back

4. i send 11 soldiers to a level 4 invest (5 killed) and i recieve 13 valkys

5. i send 4 soldiers to a level 2 invest (3 killed) and i got a payout about 600 resis and one soldier.

 

so my questions are:

1. It is possible, that the bank become to a negative value?

2. If i got a payout (resis and troupes), shoul i reset the excel list to zero? means the bank i emtpy?

3. how can i found out the value of the bank, (if i start with my main sektor wich is lvl 65) to geht the propper excel list values?

One more question about the loading phase.

In the wikky i had read, that the bank will be loadet, if i build troupes.

If i watch the excel list, and fill in my destroid toupes, i realise, that the bank also will be loadet. That confused me.

Is there two ways to load the bank. Send troupes and let them kill and build troupes?

 

so far my questions.

Thanks

Harry

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BiohazarD
Moderator
28 April, 2015, 7:48 AM UTC

harrys said:

Hi Guys. I´m Harry from germany, so sorry for my bad englich :-)
i need some help from you please.

As i tried your recommendation to do invests, i decide to start a new sector all over. I take this excel liste an reset it to zero values.

1. i send one soldier to a level 1 invest (no killes on my side) and got a receive from 2 soldiers (strange, because the bank should be empty)

2. i send 6 times 1 soldier to a level 2 invest (all killed) an finally 5 soldiers to destrio the invest, and i receive 10 soldiers and 2 Galdis.

3. i send 7 soldiers to a level 3 invest (6 killed) and i recieve 12 soldiers back

4. i send 11 soldiers to a level 4 invest (5 killed) and i recieve 13 valkys

5. i send 4 soldiers to a level 2 invest (3 killed) and i got a payout about 600 resis and one soldier.

 

so my questions are:

1. It is possible, that the bank become to a negative value?

2. If i got a payout (resis and troupes), shoul i reset the excel list to zero? means the bank i emtpy?

3. how can i found out the value of the bank, (if i start with my main sektor wich is lvl 65) to geht the propper excel list values?

One more question about the loading phase.

In the wikky i had read, that the bank will be loadet, if i build troupes.

If i watch the excel list, and fill in my destroid toupes, i realise, that the bank also will be loadet. That confused me.

Is there two ways to load the bank. Send troupes and let them kill and build troupes?

 

so far my questions.

Thanks

Harry

Having more than one game account is not allowed (it's against plarium's rules). 

The bank can go negative, but it seems to go back to 0 at server reset (so if you think it's negative just don't do any infests for a day or two).  Unless you have been keeping track of how much you've loaded in there's no way to know what your bank is at, the safest way is to assume your last payout took it down to 0 and start from there. 

The first few infests you do (level 10 and lower on the first 2-3 days after you start the game) are not representative, they give you far more than you have banked (this is to help new players get started). 

Troops built don't count towards the bank, only troops lost fighting infests count. 

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Prince Orcus DiVargo
30 April, 2015, 8:11 AM UTC

OK so here's what happened:

Bank at 8,527,822 and my peek infest is level 46. I've been working a level 45 infest down so that I get my payout. Sent 1 excal to do the job, cleared the infest but NO PAYOUT! (yes, Defence infest so I knew how much I needed to kill).

If that's relevant in anyway, I used 47 imperial disintegrators to load from 7.9 million to 8.4 million... would that make a difference? Based on experienced players' wisdom, it shouldn't make a difference.

Also, some suspected tweaks to the payout systems happened last week were tested by many players and most of us seemed to think you need more res loaded than your last payout to get paid... I was considerably more loaded here so it's strange.

 EDIT: FINALLY I got to join in with you guys and rant about the new infest system (which Plarium is conveniently denying)

 

JR.
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Maniakaal
30 April, 2015, 9:30 AM UTC

I always count my last reward value in resources and multiply that by 12% to get the new amount of resources for a new reward.

 

 

Mania DCL R3volution, founder Dutch Elite Force, ex-moderator TD-forum
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Prince Orcus DiVargo
30 April, 2015, 11:07 PM UTC

Maniakaal said:

I always count my last reward value in resources and multiply that by 12% to get the new amount of resources for a new reward.

 

 

Has that worked across multiple payouts?

JR.
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Maniakaal
1 May, 2015, 9:03 AM UTC

Prince Orcus DiVargo said:

Maniakaal said:

I always count my last reward value in resources and multiply that by 12% to get the new amount of resources for a new reward.

 

 

Has that worked across multiple payouts?

 

Not always, but it's a good guideline. There are many ways to play the infests. Also differences between tasks (the highest level) and non-task.

Only can't do much now on infest, my last pay out was worth 128 miljon of resources, so a lot to bank now

 

Mania DCL R3volution, founder Dutch Elite Force, ex-moderator TD-forum
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harrys
1 May, 2015, 10:31 AM UTC

Prince Orcus DiVargo said:

OK so here's what happened:

Bank at 8,527,822 and my peek infest is level 46. I've been working a level 45 infest down so that I get my payout. Sent 1 excal to do the job, cleared the infest but NO PAYOUT! (yes, Defence infest so I knew how much I needed to kill).

If that's relevant in anyway, I used 47 imperial disintegrators to load from 7.9 million to 8.4 million... would that make a difference? Based on experienced players' wisdom, it shouldn't make a difference.

Also, some suspected tweaks to the payout systems happened last week were tested by many players and most of us seemed to think you need more res loaded than your last payout to get paid... I was considerably more loaded here so it's strange.

 EDIT: FINALLY I got to join in with you guys and rant about the new infest system (which Plarium is conveniently denying)

 

Witch NEW INFEST SYSTEM do you mean?

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Maniakaal
1 May, 2015, 10:49 AM UTC

harrys said:

Prince Orcus DiVargo said:

OK so here's what happened:

Bank at 8,527,822 and my peek infest is level 46. I've been working a level 45 infest down so that I get my payout. Sent 1 excal to do the job, cleared the infest but NO PAYOUT! (yes, Defence infest so I knew how much I needed to kill).

If that's relevant in anyway, I used 47 imperial disintegrators to load from 7.9 million to 8.4 million... would that make a difference? Based on experienced players' wisdom, it shouldn't make a difference.

Also, some suspected tweaks to the payout systems happened last week were tested by many players and most of us seemed to think you need more res loaded than your last payout to get paid... I was considerably more loaded here so it's strange.

 EDIT: FINALLY I got to join in with you guys and rant about the new infest system (which Plarium is conveniently denying)

 

Witch NEW INFEST SYSTEM do you mean?

There is NO new infest system

Mania DCL R3volution, founder Dutch Elite Force, ex-moderator TD-forum
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Saad Malik
3 May, 2015, 1:39 PM UTC

Maniakaal said:

I always count my last reward value in resources and multiply that by 12% to get the new amount of resources for a new reward.

 

 

Besides multiplying the reward value with 12% and pushing that much resources in the infest bank for next reward, how many sites are needed to break before breaking the final one to get the reward?

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BiohazarD
Moderator
3 May, 2015, 6:34 PM UTC

Maniakaal said:

harrys said:

Prince Orcus DiVargo said:

OK so here's what happened:

Bank at 8,527,822 and my peek infest is level 46. I've been working a level 45 infest down so that I get my payout. Sent 1 excal to do the job, cleared the infest but NO PAYOUT! (yes, Defence infest so I knew how much I needed to kill).

If that's relevant in anyway, I used 47 imperial disintegrators to load from 7.9 million to 8.4 million... would that make a difference? Based on experienced players' wisdom, it shouldn't make a difference.

Also, some suspected tweaks to the payout systems happened last week were tested by many players and most of us seemed to think you need more res loaded than your last payout to get paid... I was considerably more loaded here so it's strange.

 EDIT: FINALLY I got to join in with you guys and rant about the new infest system (which Plarium is conveniently denying)

 

Witch NEW INFEST SYSTEM do you mean?

There is NO new infest system

Regardless of what the devs say there certainly seems to have been a change, that much becomes obvious after doing just a few rounds of infests.  Maybe they did it on accident when they were trying to change something else, wouldn't be the first time that's happened.

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Prince Orcus DiVargo
4 May, 2015, 2:42 PM UTC

BiohazarD said:

Maniakaal said:

harrys said:

Prince Orcus DiVargo said:

OK so here's what happened:

Bank at 8,527,822 and my peek infest is level 46. I've been working a level 45 infest down so that I get my payout. Sent 1 excal to do the job, cleared the infest but NO PAYOUT! (yes, Defence infest so I knew how much I needed to kill).

If that's relevant in anyway, I used 47 imperial disintegrators to load from 7.9 million to 8.4 million... would that make a difference? Based on experienced players' wisdom, it shouldn't make a difference.

Also, some suspected tweaks to the payout systems happened last week were tested by many players and most of us seemed to think you need more res loaded than your last payout to get paid... I was considerably more loaded here so it's strange.

 EDIT: FINALLY I got to join in with you guys and rant about the new infest system (which Plarium is conveniently denying)

 

Witch NEW INFEST SYSTEM do you mean?

There is NO new infest system

Regardless of what the devs say there certainly seems to have been a change, that much becomes obvious after doing just a few rounds of infests.  Maybe they did it on accident when they were trying to change something else, wouldn't be the first time that's happened.

 

Try asking those guys to do some debugging, I guarantee they'll make something up, if not worsen it :P

JR.
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