Erwan said:

Hello,

What do you think about this?

Hi!

Is normal - that BG is almost finished you have to send just a few more troops - Balur has now just 3 more troops...

Best regards!

Erwan said:

Hello,

What do you think about this?

Hi!

Is normal - that BG is almost finished you have to send just a few more troops - Balur has now just 3 more troops...

Best regards!

Bogdan

Erwan said:

Hello,

What do you think about this?

I don't have time to type again, but these was my reply to the same issue when it was raised by Lord Mark. 

I have seen your question in the forum. Your calculations are very precise and to the point, But in a way there is another factor that you failed to account for, the place of battle, catacomb, orcish altar , ogre cave and orc encampment have different factor that contribute to orc defense. The same way that an elf is more stronger in a beacon compared to a castle and even more weaker in a hamlet. orcish settlements also contribute some sort of defense bonus, that makes these units a little more powerful.

The difference is so small that in lower battleground they are practically insignificant to include in calculations , but in higher BG especially those over level 100 they are so large that failure to account for them will result in several thousands power points lost in units.

I am afraid you have to find out this on your own, largely because I know you will not believe me, But this place is a good start if you want to find out more, http://vp.place-24.ru/en/off_pl.php

If you need further explanation on the matter I will be glad to explain further, and perhaps show you my findings/maybe. 

This site is still outdated. 

Basically a those nomads have defence of 69126, that is IF they are level 32.

 But because they might be some boost applied, I will assume that they have a defensive value of over 90K, and should be able to finish the BG. But they didn't because of the above. This is just my theory, if you have something against it argue with thesis.

Oracle said:

isacescu_bogdan said:

Erwan said:

Hello,

What do you think about this?

Hi!

Is normal - that BG is almost finished you have to send just a few more troops - Balur has now just 3 more troops...

Best regards!

Bogdan

That is not what she meant

Sorry, if she didn't send us all the details for which is making the post we'll answer whatever we'll think she wanted to say...

Have a nice day!

Erwan said:

Hello,

What do you think about this?

I don't have time to type again, but these was my reply to the same issue when it was raised by Lord Mark. 

I have seen your question in the forum. Your calculations are very precise and to the point, But in a way there is another factor that you failed to account for, the place of battle, catacomb, orcish altar , ogre cave and orc encampment have different factor that contribute to orc defense. The same way that an elf is more stronger in a beacon compared to a castle and even more weaker in a hamlet. orcish settlements also contribute some sort of defense bonus, that makes these units a little more powerful.

The difference is so small that in lower battleground they are practically insignificant to include in calculations , but in higher BG especially those over level 100 they are so large that failure to account for them will result in several thousands power points lost in units.

I am afraid you have to find out this on your own, largely because I know you will not believe me, But this place is a good start if you want to find out more, http://vp.place-24.ru/en/off_pl.php

If you need further explanation on the matter I will be glad to explain further, and perhaps show you my findings/maybe. 

This site is still outdated. 

Basically a those nomads have defence of 69126, that is IF they are level 32.

 But because they might be some boost applied, I will assume that they have a defensive value of over 90K, and should be able to finish the BG. But they didn't because of the above. This is just my theory, if you have something against it argue with thesis.

BiohazarD said:

There seems to be some kind of rounding system or something where the BGs like to finish either with 1 unit remaining and you lose, or you win and only 1 unit of yours survives.  I don't have exact figures, but I've seen this happen far too often for it to be random chance.  So I'd guess that if it's a close battle, it will round it to one unit surviving on the winning side.  

totally agree

calculate balurs attack and send enough defense to defeat him..not to close to the attack calculation to avoid this

The only thing wrong with this screenshot is that day 45 is still visible - https://prnt.sc/ikh3le

This has been going on for weeks. Why has it not been fixed yet?

We do not have enough info to comment on the battle

We need to know total defense for the Nomads and we need to see Battleground Ranking ( to check balur strength)

For all we know he/she is complaining that he only got 102 Unit XP
If there is a problem it is in the way Nomad defense is always shown as the average - we dont usually need exact figures, but inf/bestiary def is different to cav/occult so adjustments are needed to suit the population of balur unit types
The fact that there were 503 Marennon may have weakened the Nomad defense, but 1012 Raiders should more than compensate for this

The only thing wrong with this screenshot is that day 45 is still visible - https://prnt.sc/ikh3le

This has been going on for weeks. Why has it not been fixed yet?

Alina Phoenix said:

Snowgoon said:

The only thing wrong with this screenshot is that day 45 is still visible - https://prnt.sc/ikh3le

This has been going on for weeks. Why has it not been fixed yet?

Open this menu > check what reward you receive for login > close the window and this information won't be displayed :)

This does not work for me or for any of my friends

http://prntscr.com/il545q

The only way to clear the screen is to reload the game

Stiletto said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Snowgoon said:

The only thing wrong with this screenshot is that day 45 is still visible - https://prnt.sc/ikh3le

This has been going on for weeks. Why has it not been fixed yet?

Open this menu > check what reward you receive for login > close the window and this information won't be displayed :)

This does not work for me or for any of my friends

http://prntscr.com/il545q

The only way to clear the screen is to reload the game

Sorry to hear it as it always works properly for me even without reloading the game :(

This problem is always here. My league and some friends say, that it is everywhere. 

This problem is always here. My league and some friends say, that it is everywhere. 

Alina, i dont know where you play the game. On plarium.com this problem is on every server.

Alina Phoenix said:

Feuerherz said:

This problem is always here. My league and some friends say, that it is everywhere. 

Alina, i dont know where you play the game. On plarium.com this problem is on every server.

I'm checking it on plarium.com as well, third server. 

This was reported to you on 17th January

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/bug-reports/94599_daily-loyalty-roll-2/

Alina Phoenix said:

Feuerherz said:

This problem is always here. My league and some friends say, that it is everywhere. 

Alina, i dont know where you play the game. On plarium.com this problem is on every server.

I'm checking it on plarium.com as well, third server. 

This was reported to you on 17th January

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/bug-reports/94599_daily-loyalty-roll-2/

So, going back to the original subject of level 33 Battlegrounds

Why did I only get 173 tournament points for this?

https://prnt.sc/ipgpwg

95,480 is the absolute minimum defense for 143 marennon, 287 orcs, 775 raiders plus 597 ogres
I sent 95,493 offense 

https://prnt.sc/ipgqhp

95,480 bg strength should give around 9,548 battleground ranking (10%) and therefore give 190 tournament points (divide by 50)

This is how plarium calculate the 'value' of units killed. We are being ripped off again.

143 marennon x 80 = 11,440
287 orcs x 30 = 8,610
775 raiders x 40 = 31,000
597 ogres x 60 = 35,820

Total strength = 86,870 therefore around 8687 battleground ranking giving 173 tournament points

Yes, I know orcs are only 20, but plarium raised this to 30 - please note that orcs have 60 defense against infantry

If I am losing over 10% of my tournament points on every level 33, then how much are you guys losing when you hit level 100+ or level 150+

I only break even if I send infantry and there are no orcs

Anyone want to try a similar experiment on green battlegrounds (I never hit them 'cos defense payouts are worthless in this game)
I'm guessing they do not have the same problem