Trading post

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bhagya_anne
8 October, 2017, 3:17 PM UTC
I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.
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redhatsgal
8 October, 2017, 3:19 PM UTC
Great idea!
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alg4709-spot
8 October, 2017, 3:21 PM UTC

Good idea. I'm all for it.


And Plarium can take a "transaction fee" for being the facilitator.


Can't be too hard to program it, can it?
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Gadheras
8 October, 2017, 3:59 PM UTC

Will never ever happen, as Plarium refused that idea over and over and over in the past. 
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BiohazarD
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8 October, 2017, 6:27 PM UTC

bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

I suspect that most people value the same items (speed boost, total protection, off/def boosts, etc) so an item trading option with other players probably wouldn't be very successful.  It would only be used by alts/bots to transfer items to the main account.  

Being able to sell them for a % of their sapphire value would be much more useful, but I doubt plarium will ever allow it.  Maybe one day we'll be able to sell them for resources like we can relics.  
Any opinions expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily represent the opinions of or constitute official statements by Plarium.
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Oracle
9 October, 2017, 8:10 AM UTC

bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Plarium will never implement any feature that will benifits the players and make the game more fun. 

All introduced features must have ''make Plarium rich fast'' aspect in them. 

Trading post are universal in many MMO, but Plarium refuse to implement these kinds of features. 
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Oracle
9 October, 2017, 8:13 AM UTC

BiohazarD said:


bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

I suspect that most people value the same items (speed boost, total protection, off/def boosts, etc) so an item trading option with other players probably wouldn't be very successful.  It would only be used by alts/bots to transfer items to the main account.  

Being able to sell them for a % of their sapphire value would be much more useful, but I doubt plarium will ever allow it.  Maybe one day we'll be able to sell them for resources like we can relics.  

Sapphires for resources. That could be the last push I need to quit. 

we use the in game purchase app to buy currency, use the currency to buy resources and units.giving players resources for item is stupid and it traps players in a loop

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isacescu_bogdan
Moderator
9 October, 2017, 10:35 AM UTC

bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Hi!


All you can do with those items is to sell them for resources. Unfortunately, Plarium is not interested in such a market place where u can trade the items, relics,etc... :-(


Best regards!

Bogdan
Open your mind! The fact you aren't thinking at some things doesn't means they don't exist...
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
9 October, 2017, 10:56 AM UTC

bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Hello :)

This suggestion was discussed with devs for several times and their decision on it remains the same.

They do not want players to take advantage of someone else’s achievements and hard work. This would also create more opportunities for people to abuse the game, for example, by trading in-game goods for real money.

And as BIOHAZARD said, this feature could be heavily abused by players with the alternative account. 

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Oracle
9 October, 2017, 11:10 AM UTC

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello :)

This suggestion was discussed with devs for several times and their decision on it remains the same.

They do not want players to take advantage of someone else’s achievements and hard work. This would also create more opportunities for people to abuse the game, for example, by trading in-game goods for real money.

And as BIOHAZARD said, this feature could be heavily abused by players with the alternative account. 

Or it could benefits players without AlTs. 

After all there are more players like me who don't have alts in these game compared to those who have alts. 

The feature was denied because it will benefits players who don't cheat. and Plarium hate players who live by sportsmanship codes.
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
10 October, 2017, 10:31 AM UTC

Oracle said:


Alina Phoenix said:

Hello :)

This suggestion was discussed with devs for several times and their decision on it remains the same.

They do not want players to take advantage of someone else’s achievements and hard work. This would also create more opportunities for people to abuse the game, for example, by trading in-game goods for real money.

And as BIOHAZARD said, this feature could be heavily abused by players with the alternative account. 

Or it could benefits players without AlTs. 

After all there are more players like me who don't have alts in these game compared to those who have alts. 

The feature was denied because it will benefits players who don't cheat. and Plarium hate players who live by sportsmanship codes.

Oracle, the feature was denied because of the reasons I posted above.

We receive many complaints from other players on those who is using alternative accounts.

One part of the work done to prevent players from using alternative accounts is analyzing whether a new feature added to the game can give them any benefit. 

This feature will definitely give such advantages. That's why it is rejected.
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Red
10 October, 2017, 9:11 PM UTC

Oracle said:


bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Plarium will never implement any feature that will benifits the players and make the game more fun. 

All introduced features must have ''make Plarium rich fast'' aspect in them. 

Trading post are universal in many MMO, but Plarium refuse to implement these kinds of features. 

While profit motive is quite likely, I think it is also part of their strategy to combat alt abuse.  Hunting down and banning alts takes effort and resources that don't directly translate to profit.  Making it time consuming and less profitable to have alts costs Plarium comparatively little.  

What I would suggest is a black market function that lets you "sell" your items to the black market.  You'd then have credits with the black market that you could use to get items you want.  

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Gadheras
11 October, 2017, 6:33 AM UTC

Red said:


Oracle said:


bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Plarium will never implement any feature that will benifits the players and make the game more fun. 

All introduced features must have ''make Plarium rich fast'' aspect in them. 

Trading post are universal in many MMO, but Plarium refuse to implement these kinds of features. 

While profit motive is quite likely, I think it is also part of their strategy to combat alt abuse.  Hunting down and banning alts takes effort and resources that don't directly translate to profit.  Making it time consuming and less profitable to have alts costs Plarium comparatively little.  

What I would suggest is a black market function that lets you "sell" your items to the black market.  You'd then have credits with the black market that you could use to get items you want.  

Well, they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort. They could be doing very minimal for what we know. 


Also they could made a market where trading was done in a way that alts wouldn't really matter. No direct trade btween 2 players. You would have to place your items on the market place for public sales.And never allow for direct sapphire trading between accounts.  
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
11 October, 2017, 9:11 AM UTC

Gadheras said:


Red said:


Oracle said:


bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Plarium will never implement any feature that will benifits the players and make the game more fun. 

All introduced features must have ''make Plarium rich fast'' aspect in them. 

Trading post are universal in many MMO, but Plarium refuse to implement these kinds of features. 

While profit motive is quite likely, I think it is also part of their strategy to combat alt abuse.  Hunting down and banning alts takes effort and resources that don't directly translate to profit.  Making it time consuming and less profitable to have alts costs Plarium comparatively little.  

What I would suggest is a black market function that lets you "sell" your items to the black market.  You'd then have credits with the black market that you could use to get items you want.  

Well, they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort. They could be doing very minimal for what we know. 


Also they could made a market where trading was done in a way that alts wouldn't really matter. No direct trade btween 2 players. You would have to place your items on the market place for public sales.And never allow for direct sapphire trading between accounts.  

Hello.

> they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort.

This information is not published as even when you report bot account to Support team, they'll not let you know whether it was blocked or not as it's a private information.

Devs know that many players face the issue with the unused Items. On FB they added option to sell Items for Resoures.

Maybe, in the future, before adding this feature to plarium.com, they will review it and update somehow as players with the high levels and upgraded Castles don't need so much Recources. 

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Gadheras
11 October, 2017, 12:05 PM UTC

Alina Phoenix said:


Gadheras said:


Red said:


Oracle said:


bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Plarium will never implement any feature that will benifits the players and make the game more fun. 

All introduced features must have ''make Plarium rich fast'' aspect in them. 

Trading post are universal in many MMO, but Plarium refuse to implement these kinds of features. 

While profit motive is quite likely, I think it is also part of their strategy to combat alt abuse.  Hunting down and banning alts takes effort and resources that don't directly translate to profit.  Making it time consuming and less profitable to have alts costs Plarium comparatively little.  

What I would suggest is a black market function that lets you "sell" your items to the black market.  You'd then have credits with the black market that you could use to get items you want.  

Well, they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort. They could be doing very minimal for what we know. 


Also they could made a market where trading was done in a way that alts wouldn't really matter. No direct trade btween 2 players. You would have to place your items on the market place for public sales.And never allow for direct sapphire trading between accounts.  

Hello.

> they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort.

This information is not published as even when you report bot account to Support team, they'll not let you know whether it was blocked or not as it's a private information.

Devs know that many players face the issue with the unused Items. On FB they added option to sell Items for Resoures.

Maybe, in the future, before adding this feature to plarium.com, they will review it and update somehow as players with the high levels and upgraded Castles don't need so much Recources. 

A lot of games out there have like "state of the union" adress's to the players where they mention overall how many players been removed due to cheating, bots and so forth without mention WHO or which spesific players that been removed. Its part of the show the players/customers they are actually working on problems that affect them. In regard of Plarium as players we all in the dark, but we see what we see in the game. 


It shouldn't be the players that have to be "bot/alt cops" on behalf of Plarium. You should be sitting on all the backend tools and could figure out this on your own. Base things on players reporting would as well add a lot of "false posetives"
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
13 October, 2017, 11:08 AM UTC

Gadheras said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Gadheras said:


Red said:


Oracle said:


bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Plarium will never implement any feature that will benifits the players and make the game more fun. 

All introduced features must have ''make Plarium rich fast'' aspect in them. 

Trading post are universal in many MMO, but Plarium refuse to implement these kinds of features. 

While profit motive is quite likely, I think it is also part of their strategy to combat alt abuse.  Hunting down and banning alts takes effort and resources that don't directly translate to profit.  Making it time consuming and less profitable to have alts costs Plarium comparatively little.  

What I would suggest is a black market function that lets you "sell" your items to the black market.  You'd then have credits with the black market that you could use to get items you want.  

Well, they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort. They could be doing very minimal for what we know. 


Also they could made a market where trading was done in a way that alts wouldn't really matter. No direct trade btween 2 players. You would have to place your items on the market place for public sales.And never allow for direct sapphire trading between accounts.  

Hello.

> they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort.

This information is not published as even when you report bot account to Support team, they'll not let you know whether it was blocked or not as it's a private information.

Devs know that many players face the issue with the unused Items. On FB they added option to sell Items for Resoures.

Maybe, in the future, before adding this feature to plarium.com, they will review it and update somehow as players with the high levels and upgraded Castles don't need so much Recources. 

A lot of games out there have like "state of the union" adress's to the players where they mention overall how many players been removed due to cheating, bots and so forth without mention WHO or which spesific players that been removed. Its part of the show the players/customers they are actually working on problems that affect them. In regard of Plarium as players we all in the dark, but we see what we see in the game. 


It shouldn't be the players that have to be "bot/alt cops" on behalf of Plarium. You should be sitting on all the backend tools and could figure out this on your own. Base things on players reporting would as well add a lot of "false posetives"

Hello.

This kind of information is considered to be the insider one and we don't share it.

We're not asking players to be  "bot/alt cops". From our end we're banning the bots by running automatic check on the servers.

As for the players with the alternative accounts, their activity is prevented by adding different limits to the game.

Also, before adding any new feature, devs always take into account whether it will give any advantages to the bot accounts and players with the alternative accounts. 

Community Manager
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Red
16 October, 2017, 7:50 AM UTC
Alina Phoenix said:


Hello.

This kind of information is considered to be the insider one and we don't share it.

We're not asking players to be  "bot/alt cops". From our end we're banning the bots by running automatic check on the servers.

As for the players with the alternative accounts, their activity is prevented by adding different limits to the game.

Also, before adding any new feature, devs always take into account whether it will give any advantages to the bot accounts and players with the alternative accounts. 

I think the point is when players do not see "justice" done, it gives the impression that it is not enforced at all.  Even something as simple as releasing numbers, with no names at all, would help show that Plarium is doing something.
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trevor
16 October, 2017, 8:21 AM UTC

Alina Phoenix said:


Gadheras said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Gadheras said:


Red said:


Oracle said:


bhagya_anne said:


I would love to see a trading post opened, where unused items can be traded or swapped.  I currently have so many spy protections that are never used, alone with many many other items,  They are sitting there wasted.  It would be great to have an area were we could get different items for items that are NEVER used.

Plarium will never implement any feature that will benifits the players and make the game more fun. 

All introduced features must have ''make Plarium rich fast'' aspect in them. 

Trading post are universal in many MMO, but Plarium refuse to implement these kinds of features. 

While profit motive is quite likely, I think it is also part of their strategy to combat alt abuse.  Hunting down and banning alts takes effort and resources that don't directly translate to profit.  Making it time consuming and less profitable to have alts costs Plarium comparatively little.  

What I would suggest is a black market function that lets you "sell" your items to the black market.  You'd then have credits with the black market that you could use to get items you want.  

Well, they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort. They could be doing very minimal for what we know. 


Also they could made a market where trading was done in a way that alts wouldn't really matter. No direct trade btween 2 players. You would have to place your items on the market place for public sales.And never allow for direct sapphire trading between accounts.  

Hello.

> they never post any numbers of how m any they removed, closed down, or given stats of any sort.

This information is not published as even when you report bot account to Support team, they'll not let you know whether it was blocked or not as it's a private information.

Devs know that many players face the issue with the unused Items. On FB they added option to sell Items for Resoures.

Maybe, in the future, before adding this feature to plarium.com, they will review it and update somehow as players with the high levels and upgraded Castles don't need so much Recources. 

A lot of games out there have like "state of the union" adress's to the players where they mention overall how many players been removed due to cheating, bots and so forth without mention WHO or which spesific players that been removed. Its part of the show the players/customers they are actually working on problems that affect them. In regard of Plarium as players we all in the dark, but we see what we see in the game. 


It shouldn't be the players that have to be "bot/alt cops" on behalf of Plarium. You should be sitting on all the backend tools and could figure out this on your own. Base things on players reporting would as well add a lot of "false posetives"

Hello.

This kind of information is considered to be the insider one and we don't share it.

We're not asking players to be  "bot/alt cops". From our end we're banning the bots by running automatic check on the servers.

As for the players with the alternative accounts, their activity is prevented by adding different limits to the game.

Also, before adding any new feature, devs always take into account whether it will give any advantages to the bot accounts and players with the alternative accounts. 

so how is master still selling to us all and has been active on here now for over 2 years and still you cant stop him  and its just 1 person ????

the real reson is if it dont make plarium  money then you are not interested in anything we say ???????
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
18 October, 2017, 10:42 AM UTC

Hello.

This kind of information is considered to be the insider one and we don't share it.

We're not asking players to be  "bot/alt cops". From our end we're banning the bots by running automatic check on the servers.

As for the players with the alternative accounts, their activity is prevented by adding different limits to the game.

Also, before adding any new feature, devs always take into account whether it will give any advantages to the bot accounts and players with the alternative accounts. 

so how is master still selling to us all and has been active on here now for over 2 years and still you cant stop him  and its just 1 person ????

the real reson is if it dont make plarium  money then you are not interested in anything we say ???????

Hello.

It's still possible to create another account when the first ones was banned. 

I made a suggestion to adding certain limits to the number of Letters a new player can send to players who are not his friends/League members.

I think that thanks to this limit we will be able to decrease the Master's activity as in the majority of cases, he owns low-level Castles.

Will see what devs will reply on this suggestion.

For now, you can also report Master's accounts to Lord Oberon in private. We still ban the account automatically regularly, but by reporting it to Support or Lord Oberon, this account will be banned faster.

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bhagya_anne
19 October, 2017, 3:35 PM UTC
oh well seems like the "powers that be" have made their decision on the suggestion of a useful tool to help players.  Well why not offer us the option to sell them and not just for resources but sapphires so we can buy items that are beneficial and practical to our purpose, for example 4 small wands get you 1 large wand, X amount of something give us 1 medal.  But there needs to be some way of eliminating items we  don't use for something we can use
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