BG REWARD RECORD

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Oracle
17 August, 2017, 7:24 AM UTC

djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

Just because something isn't a lie does not mean that it isn't deceptive. A liar knows that he is a liar, but one who speaks mere portions of truth in order to deceive is a craftsman of destruction.....Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
17 August, 2017, 7:51 AM UTC

djmoody said:


As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.


Dear Lord

Thanks a lot for ur help. I really apreciate it. as same time i also think the comunity really apreciate it too.

once more, thank u so much

Regards
Resistance Is Futile
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BiohazarD
Moderator
17 August, 2017, 9:19 AM UTC
Oracle said:

djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

Well if plarium decides it's important for everyone to have the info maybe they'll publish it, would save people a lot of work.  But it doesn't seem likely.  
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
17 August, 2017, 10:36 AM UTC

BiohazarD said:



Well if plarium decides it's important for everyone to have the info maybe they'll publish it, would save people a lot of work.  But it doesn't seem likely.  

I dont think plarium is going to tell something is confidential so we all can wait till hell gets frozen waiting for the data also it seems happens the same waiting same data from some users

that dragons are arround 318M and those griffs are arround 310M so i think have to bank arround those amounts + tax (but not the 12.5%) to get that payout

if i have said to share the info is cause im in low level bgs and have to wait to see the pics of each big payout in every level. but does not matter i think may be do the same to be more consider in the cacls :)

Regards

Resistance Is Futile
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Stewart
17 August, 2017, 10:48 AM UTC
Juglar del Viento said:

BiohazarD said:



Well if plarium decides it's important for everyone to have the info maybe they'll publish it, would save people a lot of work.  But it doesn't seem likely.  

I dont think plarium is going to tell something is confidential so we all can wait till hell gets frozen waiting for the data also it seems happens the same waiting same data from some users

that dragons are arround 318M and those griffs are arround 310M so i think have to bank arround those amounts + tax (but not the 12.5%) to get that payout

if i have said to share the info is cause im in low level bgs and have to wait to see the pics of each big payout in every level. but does not matter i think may be do the same to be more consider in the cacls :)

Regards

my calculator counts the dragons at 449.56 same as DJ said for the dragons.
Noodle maker extreme
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
17 August, 2017, 11:03 AM UTC

Stewart_KT1 said:



my calculator counts the dragons at 449.56 same as DJ said for the dragons.
omg, u are right, sorry i mistaked :p

;) lol

Regards

Resistance Is Futile
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Stewart
17 August, 2017, 12:47 PM UTC
Juglar del Viento said:

Stewart_KT1 said:



my calculator counts the dragons at 449.56 same as DJ said for the dragons.
omg, u are right, sorry i mistaked :p

;) lol

Regards

No reason to be sorry, it is horrid trying to get troops out of BG sometimes. And a miscalculation can be very bad to have on top of a contankerious BG
Noodle maker extreme
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
17 August, 2017, 4:00 PM UTC

Stewart_KT1 said:



No reason to be sorry, it is horrid trying to get troops out of BG sometimes. And a miscalculation can be very bad to have on top of a contankerious BG

sure, in medium low levels the misscalculation cant affect so much but yes in high and very high levels

have u stoped to think about it when u think something is wrong and it does not pay ?? i have told it too many times in too many post about bgs.

unfortunately i dont have troops to continue testing but the 2 i have done have worked in nice way at least for me.

regards and good luck

Resistance Is Futile
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Lord Mark
17 August, 2017, 7:06 PM UTC
Juglar del Viento said:

Stewart_KT1 said:



No reason to be sorry, it is horrid trying to get troops out of BG sometimes. And a miscalculation can be very bad to have on top of a contankerious BG

sure, in medium low levels the misscalculation cant affect so much but yes in high and very high levels

have u stoped to think about it when u think something is wrong and it does not pay ?? i have told it too many times in too many post about bgs.

unfortunately i dont have troops to continue testing but the 2 i have done have worked in nice way at least for me.

regards and good luck

In few days i will brake this one :) I hope it will pay
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
17 August, 2017, 7:11 PM UTC

Lord Mark said:



In few days i will brake this one :) I hope it will pay

Lord Mark

i will be crossing my fingers to desire u the best luck on it

;)

Regards
Resistance Is Futile
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Lord Mark
17 August, 2017, 7:44 PM UTC
Juglar del Viento said:

Lord Mark said:



In few days i will brake this one :) I hope it will pay

Lord Mark

i will be crossing my fingers to desire u the best luck on it

;)

Regards
Thank u man !
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Jezebel
17 August, 2017, 11:32 PM UTC
Oracle said:

djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

When people spend a lot of time to do the work required to benefit their league why should they share it with everyone else?  Anyone can accumulate the data they just need to do the work and be willing to invest their armies to do it.
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Alina Phoenix
Community Manager
18 August, 2017, 8:01 AM UTC

Jezebel said:


Oracle said:


djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

When people spend a lot of time to do the work required to benefit their league why should they share it with everyone else?  Anyone can accumulate the data they just need to do the work and be willing to invest their armies to do it.

Hello.

Each player can decide whether to share some information with the community or not. But if the player created some guide on BGs or any other topic, he can send it to Lord Oberon in PM. If the guide is a good one, it will be published not only on Forum but on our Official blog as well.

The player will get a Reward for his work in Sapphires. 

Community Manager
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Jezebel
18 August, 2017, 10:31 PM UTC
Alina Phoenix said:

Jezebel said:


Oracle said:


djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

When people spend a lot of time to do the work required to benefit their league why should they share it with everyone else?  Anyone can accumulate the data they just need to do the work and be willing to invest their armies to do it.

Hello.

Each player can decide whether to share some information with the community or not. But if the player created some guide on BGs or any other topic, he can send it to Lord Oberon in PM. If the guide is a good one, it will be published not only on Forum but on our Official blog as well.

The player will get a Reward for his work in Sapphires. 

My point is KOK has knowledge on BG's that others do not - they did the work to figure it out and it gives them an advantage in the game so kudos to them - others can do the same and spend the time and effort - nothing is free in this game Plarium has made it this way :)
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TheOne
19 August, 2017, 10:27 AM UTC

Alina Phoenix said:


Jezebel said:


Oracle said:


djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

When people spend a lot of time to do the work required to benefit their league why should they share it with everyone else?  Anyone can accumulate the data they just need to do the work and be willing to invest their armies to do it.

Hello.

Each player can decide whether to share some information with the community or not. But if the player created some guide on BGs or any other topic, he can send it to Lord Oberon in PM. If the guide is a good one, it will be published not only on Forum but on our Official blog as well.

The player will get a Reward for his work in Sapphires. 

Yeah good joke,just share this info and other with the "community" so Plarium find new ways to drain your money and make game even more unbalance for non coiners.

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BiohazarD
Moderator
20 August, 2017, 10:24 AM UTC
Jezebel said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Jezebel said:


Oracle said:


djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

When people spend a lot of time to do the work required to benefit their league why should they share it with everyone else?  Anyone can accumulate the data they just need to do the work and be willing to invest their armies to do it.

Hello.

Each player can decide whether to share some information with the community or not. But if the player created some guide on BGs or any other topic, he can send it to Lord Oberon in PM. If the guide is a good one, it will be published not only on Forum but on our Official blog as well.

The player will get a Reward for his work in Sapphires. 

My point is KOK has knowledge on BG's that others do not - they did the work to figure it out and it gives them an advantage in the game so kudos to them - others can do the same and spend the time and effort - nothing is free in this game Plarium has made it this way :)
Haha maybe we should start offering bg classes.  With a small entry fee of course :P
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
20 August, 2017, 10:31 AM UTC

BiohazarD said:


Haha maybe we should start offering bg classes.  With a small entry fee of course :P

dont sure if i will pay for that classes

i think the amounts of loading are not totally right and i think is that the problems i saw with the payouts

but as always, talking about bgs nobody has the certain to be sure, dont u think ?

Regards
Resistance Is Futile
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Lord Mark
20 August, 2017, 3:49 PM UTC

TheOne said:


Alina Phoenix said:


Jezebel said:


Oracle said:


djmoody said:

As for banking value of all other levels of BG's that is info for only my league I am afraid. Have to have some advantages where smart play can offset the imbalance of mega coining.

seriously. the data could help the community a lot. I know juglar is busy making the data. But it will take but it will take forever as he is doing level 120+ BG. 

@juglar

I am busy collecting the data myself, When I have them I will PM you and you'll verify them

When people spend a lot of time to do the work required to benefit their league why should they share it with everyone else?  Anyone can accumulate the data they just need to do the work and be willing to invest their armies to do it.

Hello.

Each player can decide whether to share some information with the community or not. But if the player created some guide on BGs or any other topic, he can send it to Lord Oberon in PM. If the guide is a good one, it will be published not only on Forum but on our Official blog as well.

The player will get a Reward for his work in Sapphires. 

Yeah good joke,just share this info and other with the "community" so Plarium find new ways to drain your money and make game even more unbalance for non coiners.

Alina,


Can u explain why that player who will send the data to oberon will be rewarded ???

Is it becouse ...it will help plarium to modify the BG mechanics ...so  we will not benefit that particullar startegy ?


When people find out about the yeloing trick in BG...few leagues made 1000k free units... After they told to oberon....He fixed ...and we recived 0 units.

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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
20 August, 2017, 4:12 PM UTC

Lord Mark said:


Can u explain why that player who will send the data to oberon will be rewarded ???

Is it becouse ...it will help plarium to modify the BG mechanics ...so  we will not benefit that particullar startegy ?


When people find out about the yeloing trick in BG...few leagues made 1000k free units... After they told to oberon....He fixed ...and we recived 0 units.

Lord Mark

the data we usually have and could be sent to Lord Oberon are not the real data that bgs have. so dont worry Lord Oberon read our numbers time ago cause i think the table on thread banking battlegrounds is what we all use. that data is not the exact data. it is an average data about a lot of payouts of every bg level  and can be used for us to realize when a bg can give a big payout.

yellowing is not a trick. it was used as a banking method since the begining. what happened ? when they changed the way as bgs used to work and begin to give small payouts it used to be the 10% of the big payout for that level.

then people banked yellowing bgs till only 1 or 2 balur troops remained inside. kill one of them, get the big payout and then clean all yellowed bgs.

imagine u have yellowed 11 bgs level 100 have banked 131M and hit one to get a big payout arround 131M.

then on that time u finish the 10 yellowed left and get in each one the 10%. you used to get 10x13M only sending a wraith (for example)

but be sure ur bank is in very high negaive number.

that is what they fixed last summer and changed that 10%.

was this an unfair method to get troops ??? i dont think so as the moment u have to bank twice to get another level 100 big payout but....donde manda patron no manda marinero. :p

if you think im wrong u are invited to correct me :)

Regards

Resistance Is Futile
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Oracle
20 August, 2017, 8:42 PM UTC

I think you have been confused by Juglar request. He is not asking for KoK conspiracy theories about BG mechanics, He like everyone else already knows those theories and because they are fallacy publishing them in the forum will not be a good idea. 


What he and I including everyone else is asking for is the BG banks above level 100. What I have is bit and pieces of certain BG, like 140, 160 125 124 and 175. But it's near impossible using a mathematical formula to reproduce the actual bank, I try everyday but when I get to a level that I have verified it's bank from screenshots the formula become wrong. So the is no knowing what value is those BG bank. 


We all know that using a formula to work out the bank is dangerous as BG system switch. Even the most complex formula can fall above or below the real margin by over 10%, which when dealing with BG above level 100 will be a lot. 


There are two ways to handle these. We could help Juglar by giving posting the BG screenshot

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