Difficult questions

Maybe this will make it easier to answer - http://prntscr.com/cwqhuw

Well, I have a universal question that I'd like to ask on every new event and now I got the chance :)

1. What is the ideal/predicted/envisioned course of action of players by the devs? Like everyone go trigger happy or something else?

2. What is the ideal outcome/results envisioned by the devs? 

Knowing the answers to these questions might change the mind of some players.

I think the screenshot by snoogoon have answered everything. it will be fine since 90% of lost defense will be restored. BUT then I looked at the old times offense defense rankings, If you have seen it recently you will know what will happen. 

there was recently a war, and using my very small brain, it looks rather surprising. hammers have not been used in that war, Hammers at both sides have increased, exponentially, in fact cubic-ally, some like UC hammers have increased by 10 folds. 

Now I ask you what will happen when people get super button pressing happy, what will happen to the little league, now that the so called ''war'' is over. Add these 90% restoration into the equation and, things will explode.  It will results in little leagues being bullied, it will be anarchy, it will be bloodshed, it will be fun for the super coiners. It will be disasters for emerging leagues, especially the inner beacon holding league, Players will quit. 

exxxe said:

many of you probably already knows what that is and some dont want this event to reach Stormfall 

(it is basically an event where you take down beacons and once it is finished you restore 90% of your losses)

now as many know devs are still getting feedback from total domination and they plan to release it here

now this thread is for you to say whether you want it or not, be constructive and give reasons 

if you are against it then tell plarium what to change/ alter in the event before they bring it here (suggest how to improve it)

so mainly answer those questions:-

1) do you want the event in stormfall and why ?

2) what would you like to change or improve in the event ?

3) would you participate in the event ?

all forum rules apply also this is your chance to give feedback about it before it gets here 

enjoy

1) No, cause it makes beacons pointless and we would drop all beacons and Hence game loses its point ... no reason for us to play we move on ... o by we i mean anyone with Knowledge to understand what this would mean

2) glad YOU GUY asked for our opinions soooo ..... let me make a simple comparison to that event ..... a normal glass falls from a 3 story building then a bulldozer drives over it and THEN the tiny pieces get blown away into the wind ...... NOT EVEN BOB THE BUILDER would fix that ...... this is how i see that event lol

1)NO i dont want it.. if you want beacons to be extinct and useless go ahead dont listen to the players.  Snowgoons's screenshot says it all.

2)for an event like this i dont know if it can be changed well unless defenders get a great boost to offset the crazy offence out there. this tournament will just destroy the balance even more that all the other crazy updates already have.

3)if it is implemented i dont think i will have a choice to participate or not as a beacon holding league. all beacons will be crushed for the amusement of mega coiners while all the small players quit.

1)no i dont want it cause coiners will replace big part of their troop easy and the mechanic of beacons is win the massive troop.

2)i would nt change something,beacon tournaments should remain as it is if they want to change it a little bit ok ,like giving some different prizes but it should be as it is now like  a pvp event only for beacons.

3)it is impossible to participate in this event,whith what troop?i will replace my small troop and he will replace his big troop who replace more? (rhetoric question)

I dont play total domination so will be making some guestimations.

Plarium is in the business of making money so, I assume that you get your 90% of losses back free. But for the cash you will probably be able to heal the other 10% with sapph.

1 yes, It will get rid of all the long ago def in beacons which it seems is a plan by plarium which would make league coordination easier (beacon def moves)

1 no, the beacons will be devastated, There will be some lvl5 beacons left after the event but not many, And with the other beacons just imagine a beacon drop in 1 go with 80-90% of the beacons on the map at lvl1. After the carnage event when there is no 90% revive to help there will be fighting for a while till people get sick of losing troops. And after the bigger leagues have dropped their long ago members that no longer have bcn def to justify the league spot, Then mergers will go in full swing to create superleagues that make the leagues we have now look ordinary.

2 Without knowing the details i cant say.

It's a horrible event.

Beacons are the end game content. It takes a long time to build your beacon territory. A long time in building the power of your armies, a long time in playing the diplo in the game.

Then they come up with an event that can break that all in 24hrs. 

The worst part of the game is that it is yet another "timing" event. The flag event is flawed as "who is online for the 1st hour of the event". Emitter Carnage is "who is online for the last hour of the event".

1: I agree with Oracle and Stewart on this; it's a good idea for those who can easily retake their beacons and don't have to worry about fighting over them when it's over. For smaller leagues it's a pain in the a and I would probably consider quitting myself rather than having to deal with all the ridiculousness arising from it all.

2: Don't know more than that I don't want it to be as it has been suggested.

beacons have been useless for some time now.

fotresses offer more for ranking than beacons do.

with 1 billion offensive hammers walking around why defend?

ok thank you all for answering 

the summary is:-

you dislike the event because it will make you lose your beacons and all your hard work in matter of minutes making beacons useless and defending them also (because big hammers)

but 1) have you considered that you will recover 90 % and can simply retake the beacons lost and restock them (lets say a 1000bln hammer takes down all beacons still there is no way to hold them all so once the event is over you can retake them)

2) it is a chance to kill all inactive deff, 

3) change the global map giving a chance for small leagues (the big leagues will lose inactive deff so they will be able to hold less beacons)

4)add some actual fighting without necessarily breaking any NAP's or losing more than 10% of units 

5) even though you need to re upgrade to lvl 5 remember this event will have rewards as well as its a chance for leagues to show off 

you can send all of your deff and demonstrate strength knowing that no matter how much you lose you are getting 90% back

6) about the screenshot from snowgoon it could be for several reasons such as low number of leagues or low interest or simply already existed leagues have captured what they need 

Solution :- if leagues were given the chance to opt out from participating then all your issues would be solved 

example league A does not want to participate then league A beacons can not be attacked for the entire time of the event as well as they cant attack other beacons 

Sifr said:

Well, I have a universal question that I'd like to ask on every new event and now I got the chance :)

1. What is the ideal/predicted/envisioned course of action of players by the devs? Like everyone go trigger happy or something else?

2. What is the ideal outcome/results envisioned by the devs? 

Knowing the answers to these questions might change the mind of some players.

Unfortunately, there are no devs on this forum. But I can tell you how I see it:

1) Players engage in massive fights and battles all over the map. Many players that were afraid of losing their Units now have a chance to use them and restore almost all of them for free right after the event ends.

The event is shorter than all other Tournaments (at least in Total Domination), and the time frame for battles is short. So it will also make players mobilize their Leagues and act together as a team - teamwork, better experience, new emotions, new fresh look at the game.

For bigger Leagues:

- Their position is in danger. They need to act quickly and jointly if they want to hold their positions.

For smaller Leagues:

- They finally have a chance to overcome stronger enemies and show their potential.

Also, considering the fact that almost all Units at Beacons will be destroyed (not all and not everywhere, but let's take a hypothetical situation), only active Leagues will be in TOP Rankings. No more Defense from people who have left the game, but still in TOP Leagues.

2) More player interactions, more activity on server. We have shown the graph of the fights on the server before and during the Carnage in our first Live Stream. 

That's my vision of this Tournament. Feel free to debate 

realy alyone? and who will replace faster his/her troop the coiner or the small league?

when he has 50 mil and i 2 mill who replace more troop whith the 90% free revive?

realy i feel they dont think us 

sison said:

realy alyone? and who will replace faster his/her troop the coiner or the small league?

when he has 50 mil and i 2 mill who replace more troop whith the 90% free revive?

realy i feel they dont think us 

lord Sison all participants will have 90% of their losses restored once the event is over there is no faster or slower 

sison said:

realy alyone? and who will replace faster his/her troop the coiner or the small league?

when he has 50 mil and i 2 mill who replace more troop whith the 90% free revive?

realy i feel they dont think us 

lord Sison all participants will have 90% of their losses restored once the event is over there is no faster or slower 

And then we get to the core of it - more profit.

More fighting = more revival = more money for Plarium.

Who cares whether its a good idea for the long term future of the game or not. I doubt I am the only person to see through this.

exxxe you did nt understand me,

the recovery is bigger for the strong guy than the weak.

 the 90% of the big player  is much more bigger than my 90%.....

nobody hear us nobody care of us and the most important plarium decide in a small room and do what they want or think,whatever you say development team doesnt talk whith the players when something serious like that is prepearing to pass,they decide and do thats the truth

but here is a community of players and they have to hear all of us ,most of us say what llady nerium said but they ignore us,here is nt total domination is the community of stormfall

I am reasonably happy with the way things are but to mess with beacons and allow the hammers to take them whenever they want will IMO, reduce the number of people playing the game. I will probably be one of them and my odd coiner payments will obviously stop although I doubt that a single person dropping out will make a difference. Maybe that's a good thing though and it will allow me to live life in the real world again?

What I would say though, is if this was my wage packet we were talking about, try telling my wife that from my 100% wage that's in the Bank, I will lose 10% of that because there will be a robbery every month. But it's ok darling as I'm able to keep 90% of that and if I use some of my savings, I can get it back up to 100% again, although next month will be repeated again. Doesn't quite sound right and who would want to put money in a bank where there's a good chance to lose it?

I can't see that working well in my household and who in the right mind believes that repeatedly losing 10% of troops for defending a beacon would be regarded as a normal occurrence?

I suppose if I was a hacker, thief, millionaire etc, then I wouldn't be concerned about where the money comes from and who's to say that the big coiners out there aren't that type of person? Who cares though Plarium..eh?

All I want is a fair strategic game, where everyone has the same chance of winning buts it's becoming more and more like the Rich persons top hundred list, where skill isn't really a factor anymore, but having millions is.

exxxe you did nt understand me,

the recovery is bigger for the strong guy than the weak.

 the 90% of the big player  is much more bigger than my 90%.....

---

nobody hear us nobody care of us and the most important plarium decide in a small room and do what they want or think,whatever you say development team doesnt talk whith the players when something serious like that is prepearing to pass,they decide and do thats the truth

but here is a community of players and they have to hear all of us ,most of us say what llady nerium said but they ignore us,here is nt total domination is the community of stormfall