Battlegrounds

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Storm Trooper
20 May, 2015, 9:52 PM UTC

I will never claim to know everything. That said. Battle Grounds in Stormfall. Is one of the most, completed attack to gain battle points and to win Troops. I have ever seen in a game of this kind. The best any player can hope for, is winning troops. All players, Lords and Ladies will always win. battle points for each Battle Grounds mission. You may look up all of the info to help you calculate the win factor for all Battle Grounds missions. In the end. It comes down to, luck and a better understanding of the game mechanics.

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Ultron
23 May, 2015, 9:00 AM UTC

Sooner or later they will implement some modifications. I think they already changed the infestation data in Total Domination which is their equivalent of battlegrounds. Now you get a payout for every BG you clear. I am not sure if or when they will update Stormfall too.

"When you get stuck,pull out your credit card and everything gets fixed"-anonymous
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djmoody
23 May, 2015, 12:14 PM UTC

Juglar del Viento said:

what i have noticed is most of people that controls bgs usually dont share the info to people they dont know or are not in their leagues or even if they know how to program excel sheets they try to sell you their app to control ur bg hittings. incredible.

 

As someone who has create THE best BG spreadsheet tool for the game my question to you would be.....

After spending all the time and effort to understand BG's, the time and effort to create an amazing excel tool that solves BG's for any user, why would I share that incredible competitive advantage for my league straight to the public forum?

As several people have mentioned before in the thread - if you want advice, hints and tips from the most knowledgeable players in the game, join a good league.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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CHII
24 May, 2015, 7:35 AM UTC

Fred Jaan said:

 

BiohazarD said:

Lord Oberon said:

My Lords, here is usefull tips about Battlegrounds for you >> http://wiki.plarium.com/index.php?title=Battlegrounds%3A_Tips

 

Yeah sorry, but a lot of the info in that is wrong.  All resources count the same towards loading battlegrounds, there is no difference between troops that cost mostly iron, gold, or food.  And low level battlegrounds are just as good as high ones.  you can get 100% returns on level 30-40 battlegrounds, the payouts just won't be as big as on the higher ones (but you also won't have to lose as much to get a payout, so it balances out).  jeez, if low level battlegrounds gave under 50% returns we would never even finish the global missions...

here is a chart of the banking value for each level infest, you want to have about 80% that amount in the bank when you kill the infest.  it's from total domination, but the values are the same here.  there are some holes or weird numbers in it, so if one seems off just estimate by the ones around it

http://wiki.plarium.com/index.php?title=Infestation_Data

 

Well, as far as I know all resources are not count same to load battlegrounds.  Amount of Gold and Iron has effect on troop reward.  But the percentage of reward form level of battleground is wrong.  It is confirmed by plarium that reward covers %90 to %95 of resource deposited to bank.  If bank has more than what the level of BG required than it pays resource as well as troops.  The other mistake is that bank doesn't reset after reward is paid.  If you start sending troops to a new level 100 BG and finish it without reward, then your bank has %90 to %95 resource to cover the reward for a level 100 BG.  I have got 5000 dragons from level 100 Red BG and 17000 Griffens from level 100 Green BG.  So, it needs lots of troops to fill the bank first. But if you fill the bank with high level BG e.g. level 100 then you attack low level (eg. level 50 or lower) then you can get reward from multiple BGs in a row since bank has a lot more that what that BG level would pay.  I have done this several time and I know it does not reset bank although I don't suggest it because there will be waste in each reward.  It is better to get one big reward instead.

 

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PapioElGrande
27 May, 2015, 9:53 AM UTC
Good afternoon , gentlemen.
I have a question:
Are éldricas troops have the same value as normal when filling the resource bank of the battlefields ?,
and secondly , how many awards can be collected from the battlefields a day or during the week ?.
Thank you very much .
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PapioElGrande
27 May, 2015, 9:54 AM UTC

Buenas tardes , caballeros.
Tengo una pregunta:
¿las tropas éldricas tienes el mismo valor que las normales a la hora llenar el banco de recursos de los campos de batalla?,
y por otro lado, ¿cuántos premios se pueden recoger de los campos de batalla al día o durante la misma semana?.
Muchas gracias.

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Ultron
27 May, 2015, 10:08 AM UTC

Hi Papio,

Eldritch units count just like the normal units in BGs. Eldritch Necros = Necros. 

You can collect any number of rewards a day from BGs. There is no cap to it.

"When you get stuck,pull out your credit card and everything gets fixed"-anonymous
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PapioElGrande
27 May, 2015, 1:12 PM UTC

Ultron said:

Hi Papio,

Eldritch units count just like the normal units in BGs. Eldritch Necros = Necros. 

You can collect any number of rewards a day from BGs. There is no cap to it.

Thank you very much , Boss. ;)
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PapioElGrande
27 May, 2015, 1:15 PM UTC
One last question ...
Not all battlefields have the "Bonus " to receive the prize , right?
Can it happen that even having invested the necessary resources and meet the needs of the field level received no prize?

Thank´s
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Lord Oberon
Administrator
27 May, 2015, 3:19 PM UTC

Lord!

The regular Battlegrounds collect the so-called "Bank" to increase your payout chance. However, one can hardly predict when exactly the payout is going to be made.

Oberon, Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall
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PapioElGrande
27 May, 2015, 3:35 PM UTC

Lord Oberon said:

Lord!

The regular Battlegrounds collect the so-called "Bank" to increase your payout chance. However, one can hardly predict when exactly the payout is going to be made.

thank you, sir.
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BiohazarD
Moderator
27 May, 2015, 6:03 PM UTC

Lord Oberon said:

Lord!

The regular Battlegrounds collect the so-called "Bank" to increase your payout chance. However, one can hardly predict when exactly the payout is going to be made.

Actually, with the right math you can predict when you will get a payout with a very high degree of accuracy.  It's not perfect, but it's certainly better than guesswork. 

 

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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
29 May, 2015, 4:33 PM UTC

Papio, i dont know if there are any bg without payouts, i think if u have spent the last payout u got plus an x% and you have reached the amount required for the bg level you want the payout u should be able to get it but its not 100% sure and may be you wont get it, maybe the random component or the secret component.

i hope i will be able to answer you in spanish in a near future..

biohazarD im totally agree with you.

also i have a question and its to know if legendaries troops banks on bgs.

see u.

Resistance Is Futile
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BiohazarD
Moderator
31 May, 2015, 10:18 AM UTC

Juglar del Viento said:

Papio, i dont know if there are any bg without payouts, i think if u have spent the last payout u got plus an x% and you have reached the amount required for the bg level you want the payout u should be able to get it but its not 100% sure and may be you wont get it, maybe the random component or the secret component.

i hope i will be able to answer you in spanish in a near future..

biohazarD im totally agree with you.

also i have a question and its to know if legendaries troops banks on bgs.

see u.

Legendaries seem to load for the resource value of their saphire cost (a great western dragon costs 2000 saphires, which in the black market buys 50k resources, so that's how much they're worth, which is the same value as 2 dragons, while they have the offense of 12 dragons).  Ie you're better off saving them and using normal troops in bgs. 

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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
1 June, 2015, 10:03 AM UTC

thanks biohazarD for ur answer

usually i dont send legendaries to bgs but the other day i misscliked and sent some war ellephants and lost 2 of them

 

Resistance Is Futile
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Snowgoon
1 June, 2015, 4:17 PM UTC

Why is our Battleground Ranking shown in our Profile as Siege Points? This is an ancient bug which needs fixing
http://prntscr.com/7bwor8

I also have grave concerns over the way BR is calculated - why do they always use the offensive strength of black horde units for all battlegrounds?

 

This Orc Altar gave 373 BR which implies 3720 strength - http://prntscr.com/7bwzvd

7 Marennon at 80 offense = 560
4 Orcs at 20 offense = 80
17 Raiders at 40 offense = 680
40 Ogres at 60 offense = 2400
Total offense = 3,720

But Orc Altars should be using defensive values, not offensive - This is a bug

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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Lord Oberon
Administrator
2 June, 2015, 11:07 AM UTC

Lord, I guess, since it does not matter for orcs whether to defend or attack! They just battle!

Thank you for the heads-up!

Oberon, Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall
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Ultron
2 June, 2015, 1:10 PM UTC

Legendary units value way more than their normal sapphire cost. But benefit:cost ratio is small, thats primarily the main deterrent in sending them to BGs.

"When you get stuck,pull out your credit card and everything gets fixed"-anonymous
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Snowgoon
2 June, 2015, 3:56 PM UTC

Lord Oberon said:

Lord, I guess, since it does not matter for orcs whether to defend or attack! They just battle!

Thank you for the heads-up!

You should know better than anyone that all bugs are important, as they can have unexpected effects in other parts of the game. To say that it does not matter is unprofessional. Orcs might not care, but it does affect their strength. They only have 20 attack, but can have 60 defense so it can make a huge difference to the total strength of any offensive battleground... even more so with Marennon's 80 attack but 240 defense. Of course it makes a difference whether they attack or defend.

1. It means that players who hit mostly offensive battlegrounds are not getting enough ranking points - this could have drastic results in weekly rankings.

2. I strongly suspect that the same bug is causing over-population in offensive battlegrounds, resulting in ridiculous numbers of Marennon hiding in even the lowest level battlegrounds. It is no coincidence that defensive battlegrounds are much more predictable.

Ultron said:

Legendary units value way more than their normal sapphire cost. But benefit:cost ratio is small, thats primarily the main deterrent in sending them to BGs.

Legendaries should never die when sent to low level battlegrounds, especially if they have the proper support.
It would be incredibly foolish to deliberately sacrifice Legendaries, which is why I only use them against lower level bg to avoid getting unwanted rewards. With care it is possible to hit level 23 battlegrounds with zero losses... not even one pikeman is wasted. Great for globals and for getting rid of those pesky low levels.
This allows me to sacrifice my cannon-fodder against higher levels to get better rewards.

 

Sadly, all of this is pretty academic now that they have nerfed BG Tournaments beyond all recognition.
No Soulstones, No Sapphires, No Legendaries, No Fun

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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plantor
4 June, 2015, 2:55 PM UTC

i think BGs system has been changed in the running quest .

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