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A NOT wanted "event" again "BEACON MASSACRE"

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zapelo
29 November, 2016, 9:28 AM UTC

exxxe said:


Stewart_KT1 said:


I dont think we will participate unless retaliating, Like last time.

there are boycott thread that you already said you are not participating 


there are several duplicates for BG's and the beacon massacre 


@ all 


stop writing duplicates or i will start removing them 

There is a threat of censoring....

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exxxe
29 November, 2016, 10:59 AM UTC

zapelo said:


exxxe said:


Stewart_KT1 said:


I dont think we will participate unless retaliating, Like last time.

there are boycott thread that you already said you are not participating 


there are several duplicates for BG's and the beacon massacre 


@ all 


stop writing duplicates or i will start removing them 

There is a threat of censoring....

really ??? are you serious have you even tried to read and understand what i said 


how is it censoring when i refuse to let 3-4 threads exist when they all discuss the SAME thing 


thanks 



edited :)
I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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zapelo
29 November, 2016, 11:25 AM UTC

exxxe said:


zapelo said:


exxxe said:


Stewart_KT1 said:


I dont think we will participate unless retaliating, Like last time.

there are boycott thread that you already said you are not participating 


there are several duplicates for BG's and the beacon massacre 


@ all 


stop writing duplicates or i will start removing them 

There is a threat of censoring....

really ??? are you serious have you even tried to read and understand what i said 


how is it censoring when i refuse to let 3-4 threads exist when they all discuss the SAME thing 


thanks 

edited :)

Why are you so defensive? I said it is only a threat

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djmoody
29 November, 2016, 11:39 AM UTC

Sorry but Plarium appoint moderators without a decent system for appointing or vetting them. 

Just as an example, we quite often get moderators who are new to the forum, how that can be sensible? They don't keep a record of people who have applied as moderators but rather simply deal with the last people who have apply at the time they decide they need a new mod. It's the usual unprofessional and lack of effort approach we have come to expect. It has led to wholly inappropriate moderation.

Right now this thread is closed:

http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-discussion/32349_unit-revival-and-battleground-bank

It's clearly a unique thread. It clearly wasn't even read b4 closure, just saw a BG thread and assumed it was highlighting the same non-payout issue from other theads and closed it - it wasn't.

On a recent thread a moderator edited posts quoting a rule which is about sharing private conversations with Plarium, misapplied it to posting ingame convos (despite the Plarium approved Chronicles doing exactly the same thing). Then got sarcastic in their responses when questioned despite actually being in the wrong.

The whole point of deleting duplicate threads is utterly pointless in a forum as quiet as this one. It only makes sense in super active ones where the volume of posting is high to keep the number of threads to a manageable level for users to read. If anything here it's in Plarium's interest to actually show an exaggerated level of activity to the games.

Tbh if I was a moderator I would stay well out of the current outpouring of dissatisfaction with Plarium. If they want to censor the forum to hide the problems, so be it. While morally dubious it is their forum after all, so they can do what they like ultimately. I certainly wouldn't do their dirty work for them though - if they want to hide and bury criticism let them do it themselves.

I doubt any of this subtle will be understood as the mod response will be "just enforcing the rules" - doh!. But like all rules or laws you actually have the power of how they are applied (e.g. like most police forces don't enforce possession of cannabis laws any more and only make arrests for dealing level quantities).

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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IronApex Turok
29 November, 2016, 12:24 PM UTC

exxxe said:


 i refuse to let 3-4 threads exist when they all discuss the SAME thing 


do you have access on who bans and who does not 




so many threads.......


and yet plarium still doesnt hear  the customer.


apparently there arent enough threads.



please stop deleting things.  our outrage at this needs to be apparent. 
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exxxe
29 November, 2016, 12:27 PM UTC

djmoody said:


Sorry but Plarium appoint moderators without a decent system for appointing or vetting them. 

Just as an example, we quite often get moderators who are new to the forum, how that can be sensible? They don't keep a record of people who have applied as moderators but rather simply deal with the last people who have apply at the time they decide they need a new mod. It's the usual unprofessional and lack of effort approach we have come to expect. It has led to wholly inappropriate moderation.

Right now this thread is closed:

http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-discussion/32349_unit-revival-and-battleground-bank

It's clearly a unique thread. It clearly wasn't even read b4 closure, just saw a BG thread and assumed it was highlighting the same non-payout issue from other theads and closed it - it wasn't.

On a recent thread a moderator edited posts quoting a rule which is about sharing private conversations with Plarium, misapplied it to posting ingame convos (despite the Plarium approved Chronicles doing exactly the same thing). Then got sarcastic in their responses when questioned despite actually being in the wrong.


The whole point of deleting duplicate threads is utterly pointless in a forum as quiet as this one. It only makes sense in super active ones where the volume of posting is high to keep the number of threads to a manageable level for users to read. If anything here it's in Plarium's interest to actually show an exaggerated level of activity to the games.

Tbh if I was a moderator I would stay well out of the current outpouring of dissatisfaction with Plarium. If they want to censor the forum to hide the problems, so be it. While morally dubious it is their forum after all, so they can do what they like ultimately. I certainly wouldn't do their dirty work for them though - if they want to hide and bury criticism let them do it themselves.

I doubt any of this subtle will be understood as the mod response will be "just enforcing the rules" - doh!. But like all rules or laws you actually have the power of how they are applied (e.g. like most police forces don't enforce possession of cannabis laws any more and only make arrests for dealing level quantities).


i read the thread and it clearly asks whether revived troops bank normally how is that unique that you can not ask it in 

1) banking BG in game tutorial

2) two threads about mysteries and payout in discussion thread also 

3) the thread where biohazard clearly stated the values for banking even the eldritch and imperial units 

and all of that and im not mentioning the long ago threads because i know players probably wont look beyond page one and because the search function is bad 


convince me it is unique and i will admit and re open it 


I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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IronApex Turok
29 November, 2016, 12:28 PM UTC

exxxe said:




i read the thread and it clearly asks whether revived troops bank normally how is that unique that you can not ask it in 

1) banking BG in game tutorial

2) two threads about mysteries and payout in discussion thread also 

3) the thread where biohazard clearly stated the values for banking even the eldritch and imperial units 

and all of that and im not mentioning the long ago threads because i know players probably wont look beyond page one and because the search function is bad 


convince me it is unique and i will admit and re open it 



that would be a relevant point..........



if the search feature worked. 
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Tastiger
29 November, 2016, 5:54 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Hi, guys!

First of all I'd like to assure you that your feedback was carefully gathered and passed to our game developers. With all points you've mentioned that you didn't like in the Tournament or wanted to change. So your feedback wasn't unnoticed.

However, as I mentioned somewhere already, when our developers make any decisions, they take into account not only the feedback we pass from the community, but also the analytics data that show player activity during the event.

I cannot give you the exact numbers as I don't have them, but according to the information I have, during the Massacre there were a lot more battles on Beacons than during any other Tournament. 


what rubbish ..palarium will never listen to any feedback unless its gives them another money avenue to explore ..100,s of members have complained in several areas of game play ..palarium answer is continue to extort any money member they can and any way they can ..u would have to be blind not to see that ...then u moderators delete any post that u feel is ..inappropiate ..lol what a joke .


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brunsonthomas
29 November, 2016, 6:00 PM UTC
Tastiger said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Hi, guys!

First of all I'd like to assure you that your feedback was carefully gathered and passed to our game developers. With all points you've mentioned that you didn't like in the Tournament or wanted to change. So your feedback wasn't unnoticed.

However, as I mentioned somewhere already, when our developers make any decisions, they take into account not only the feedback we pass from the community, but also the analytics data that show player activity during the event.

I cannot give you the exact numbers as I don't have them, but according to the information I have, during the Massacre there were a lot more battles on Beacons than during any other Tournament. 


what rubbish ..palarium will never listen to any feedback unless its gives them another money avenue to explore ..100,s of members have complained in several areas of game play ..palarium answer is continue to extort any money member they can and any way they can ..u would have to be blind not to see that ...then u moderators delete any post that u feel is ..inappropiate ..lol what a joke .


Unfortunately, I agree with Exxe currently there are three open threads about Beacon Massacre. All say the same thing. Plarium saw more activity in 1 Beacon in 1 event than normal for over a month in the normal game. Therefore more money, continue the event and more often.
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nobody
29 November, 2016, 8:41 PM UTC

exxxe said:

i read the thread and it clearly asks whether revived troops bank normally how is that unique that you can not ask it in 

1) banking BG in game tutorial

2) two threads about mysteries and payout in discussion thread also 

3) the thread where biohazard clearly stated the values for banking even the eldritch and imperial units 

and all of that and im not mentioning the long ago threads because i know players probably wont look beyond page one and because the search function is bad 


convince me it is unique and i will admit and re open it 



it is a unique question that a player earnestly wanted to make sure they understood.  in the other threads that have 100's of posts, this unique question gets mowed over by the outcries of the status quo rants, as well as two players trading shots at each other.  sometimes a unique post gets lost within minutes or even seconds because of these things.

the closed thread is a blank canvas specifically to that unique question.  that does not mean that the op's question will be the only thing discussed in the thread, some threads lead to off topic direction.  since the emergent structure can go in many directions,  that means that many more ideas of understanding can be created.  this makes having more threads on the same topic advantageous.  understanding could come from an emergent direction that may not happen in another thread.

and as djmoody stated:  with the volume of topics discussed, the need to eliminate multiple threads is not quite as urgent as it might be stated.

unique would simply be, that no one else asked for those specifics before.  that would make it unique, sparking a new set of dialogue missing from the other banking questions rehashed and regurgitated over and over.

i am not interested in convincing you.  but maybe this post will bring some understanding on how multiple threads can be advantageous.
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zapelo
29 November, 2016, 8:49 PM UTC

I see that this post was successfully derailed by one of the mods.


How about we keep it in line with it's title.
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nobody
29 November, 2016, 8:51 PM UTC
zapelo said:

I see that this post was successfully derailed by one of the mods.


How about we keep it in line with it's title.
case in point
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djmoody
30 November, 2016, 1:43 AM UTC

exxxe said:


i read the thread and it clearly asks whether revived troops bank normally how is that unique that you can not ask it in 

1) banking BG in game tutorial

2) two threads about mysteries and payout in discussion thread also 

3) the thread where biohazard clearly stated the values for banking even the eldritch and imperial units 

and all of that and im not mentioning the long ago threads because i know players probably wont look beyond page one and because the search function is bad 


convince me it is unique and i will admit and re open it 

The guy asked if revived troops counted towards the bank. 

I don't remember that question ever being asked before. It's a pretty nooby question and maybe its a whole new level of stupid but it is uniquely stupid I think you'll find :)

To your points:

2) Those threads are about BG' banking values being broken, completely different from the OPs post

3) That thread is about the equivalence of troop types, completely different from the OPs post

There is no need to do point 1) as the forum is not active enough to warrant pruning and management. We aren't exactly overwhelmed with new posts each day.....

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Marshall Incognito
30 November, 2016, 2:41 AM UTC
If...If...the Massacre tournament was so wildly spectacular and popular....why only show the top 5
I imagine
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Jezebel
30 November, 2016, 7:11 AM UTC

hopper said:


If...If...the Massacre tournament was so wildly spectacular and popular....why only show the top 5

It wasn't wildly popular it was forced participation by any league that held a beacon


http://prntscr.com/ddicb2  as stated in the chronicle there was a fierce battle, not really when one of those leagues in question DOES NOT and WILL NOT hold beacons due to fear of retaliation

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
30 November, 2016, 10:25 AM UTC
IronApex Turok said:
if the search feature worked. 
Our forum devs are working on it already 
Plarium Community Manager. Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Support_Plarium
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zapelo
30 November, 2016, 11:59 AM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


IronApex Turok said:

if the search feature worked. 
Our forum devs are working on it already 

Do your "devs" bother to test the code they spit out.

It seems to me that they do not....

Or it is possible they test only the coining "payment" parts..... 


BUT LIKE I SAID BACK TO THE TOPIC


We clearly do not want this "event" with absolutely no rewards.

What you do? .... run the "event" again .... hell keep it open all the time
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Techway_GrandMarshal
30 November, 2016, 6:34 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


IronApex Turok said:

if the search feature worked. 
Our forum devs are working on it already 
they been working hard on it for over a year i guess. hope they figure it out soon
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Top
30 November, 2016, 9:30 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

Tastiger said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Hi, guys!

First of all I'd like to assure you that your feedback was carefully gathered and passed to our game developers. With all points you've mentioned that you didn't like in the Tournament or wanted to change. So your feedback wasn't unnoticed.

However, as I mentioned somewhere already, when our developers make any decisions, they take into account not only the feedback we pass from the community, but also the analytics data that show player activity during the event.

I cannot give you the exact numbers as I don't have them, but according to the information I have, during the Massacre there were a lot more battles on Beacons than during any other Tournament. 


what rubbish ..palarium will never listen to any feedback unless its gives them another money avenue to explore ..100,s of members have complained in several areas of game play ..palarium answer is continue to extort any money member they can and any way they can ..u would have to be blind not to see that ...then u moderators delete any post that u feel is ..inappropiate ..lol what a joke .


Unfortunately, I agree with Exxe currently there are three open threads about Beacon Massacre. All say the same thing. Plarium saw more activity in 1 Beacon in 1 event than normal for over a month in the normal game. Therefore more money, continue the event and more often.
Instead of closing them, is there a way to merge them? If not, how about putting the link in the final post of you closing a given thread to the active one? One of the reasons, IMHO, there are so many is that if a search is conducted looking for something it brings all the plarium games into the results, not just the game the searcher is interested in.
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Timmyboy
1 December, 2016, 7:57 AM UTC
lol there is a difference between players taking advantage of the event and liking the event. Just because someone thinks it is stupid and unfair of an event doesn't mean they will just sit by and watch others take advantage of it against them. Increased beacon activity is not a valid excuse and it certainly does not increase Plariums revenue. Because most likely those offensive actions would have taken place anyways and all the event does is make them happen right at that moment and not at a later date. Instead players are getting their offensive action done *and* getting 90% of their troops back. I personally very much like the event but can see very well how come it is very unfair for regular players. If Plarium thought with their purses they would ditch the event and make players pay full price for offensive action, we will only see how things go :)
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