This not a war game

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Osiris
19 August, 2016, 3:27 PM UTC

This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

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brunsonthomas
19 August, 2016, 4:19 PM UTC
Osiris said:

This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
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Osiris
19 August, 2016, 4:39 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

Osiris said:

This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
Your IQ is low. This just a strategy to brain wash people to spend money. To prolong the game to actually play the game.  Hoping that people will leave with Plarium to make profits. This not a war game. SCAM
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brunsonthomas
19 August, 2016, 4:46 PM UTC
Osiris said:

brunsonthomas said:

Osiris said:

This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
Your IQ is low. This just a strategy to brain wash people to spend money. To prolong the game to actually play the game.  Hoping that people will leave with Plarium to make profits. This not a war game. SCAM
I do not understand your attitude. Maybe you define war differently than most people. Please do not be insulting.
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IronApex Turok
19 August, 2016, 5:12 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

Osiris said:

This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
i have done all of the above.  this is farmville. an expensive farmville. there is no strategy to this game other than waiting for the right bank offer to come around so you get the most out of your credit cart purchases. 
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ion
20 August, 2016, 3:06 AM UTC
its a war game 1 day in a year , when you lose all you build , and after a year its a war game again. Rest of the time its farmville (for a regular player )
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glasherz
Moderator
20 August, 2016, 11:28 AM UTC

Hi Ion, I understand your point about having to build troops constantly before sending them into a fight to loose it all. This is frustrating to a regular player. I believe it shows your own endurance to go on doing that each day. 

I also understand part of what Ironapex means. It is probably hard for players without a leading role in a league to see the mechanics behind the game. I found that there's a lot of diplomacy work to be done. A lot of talk, getting to know each other and build up trust. That is in my eyes the strategy part behind the game. How the game works is simple enough. As you all said, build up your castle and troops to send them to war. 

You might be of a different opinion on that, but that's how I see it. 

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IronApex Turok
20 August, 2016, 3:09 PM UTC
glasherz said:

Hi Ion, I understand your point about having to build troops constantly before sending them into a fight to loose it all. This is frustrating to a regular player. I believe it shows your own endurance to go on doing that each day. 

I also understand part of what Ironapex means. It is probably hard for players without a leading role in a league to see the mechanics behind the game. I found that there's a lot of diplomacy work to be done. A lot of talk, getting to know each other and build up trust. That is in my eyes the strategy part behind the game. How the game works is simple enough. As you all said, build up your castle and troops to send them to war. 

You might be of a different opinion on that, but that's how I see it. 

with the knew events and the 50% bonus' even diplomacy is pointless now.  why do i need to befriend a league, when i can buy enough power to wipe them out. 
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brunsonthomas
20 August, 2016, 4:34 PM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

glasherz said:

Hi Ion, I understand your point about having to build troops constantly before sending them into a fight to loose it all. This is frustrating to a regular player. I believe it shows your own endurance to go on doing that each day. 

I also understand part of what Ironapex means. It is probably hard for players without a leading role in a league to see the mechanics behind the game. I found that there's a lot of diplomacy work to be done. A lot of talk, getting to know each other and build up trust. That is in my eyes the strategy part behind the game. How the game works is simple enough. As you all said, build up your castle and troops to send them to war. 

You might be of a different opinion on that, but that's how I see it. 

with the knew events and the 50% bonus' even diplomacy is pointless now.  why do i need to befriend a league, when i can buy enough power to wipe them out. 
Several players and leagues thought that true. Even with buffs, debuffs, bonuses, deficits, breaking alliances and league attacks on Beacons still failed and retaliation was brutal. Misjudging a league's strengths, and alliances can be detrimental to any league. Without mentioning names one league is being torn apart by a Marshall that miscalculated.
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ThatGuy
20 August, 2016, 7:13 PM UTC

Osiris said:


This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

Plarium designed this game to be a cash hog.  The events, tournaments, even the mechanics are slanted to force players to pay to enjoy the game.  That is typical of pay to win.  A free player will never have even a fraction of the troops a big coiner has.  The real strategy is much of what goes on behind the scenes.  Alliances, at peace, back room "unofficial" agreements, non aggression pacts, etc.  Most of the strategy goes on over TS3, outside of the game itself.  

Its true enough that $ players hit free players for PvP, but they also hit each other.  I've been watching the beacons changing hands since early morning (my time).  Just looking at the league names, it sure looks to me like the "little girls" are picking on each other right now.  Of course, when the "little girls" fight, no matter which league claims victory at the end, Plarium is the real winner...all those troops being killed and bought back.
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Red
20 August, 2016, 7:40 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:


Several players and leagues thought that true. Even with buffs, debuffs, bonuses, deficits, breaking alliances and league attacks on Beacons still failed and retaliation was brutal. Misjudging a league's strengths, and alliances can be detrimental to any league. Without mentioning names one league is being torn apart by a Marshall that miscalculated.
As others have said, most of the strategy takes place behind the scenes.  The buffs etc work for a brief advantage with a surprise attack, but most are things other leagues can attain also, so after the initial shock, those under attack can often buy the same bonuses to nullify the advantage.  Whether or not those things will help you win probably depends on your goals.  For taking/holding territory, diplomacy is more important than force (although you need force as well, all the diplo in the world won't help if you're a paper tiger).  For shorter term goals, like achievements and tournaments, those boosts can give you the edge you need, as long as you're ready for the consequences after.
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IronApex Turok
20 August, 2016, 9:01 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

IronApex Turok said:

glasherz said:

Hi Ion, I understand your point about having to build troops constantly before sending them into a fight to loose it all. This is frustrating to a regular player. I believe it shows your own endurance to go on doing that each day. 

I also understand part of what Ironapex means. It is probably hard for players without a leading role in a league to see the mechanics behind the game. I found that there's a lot of diplomacy work to be done. A lot of talk, getting to know each other and build up trust. That is in my eyes the strategy part behind the game. How the game works is simple enough. As you all said, build up your castle and troops to send them to war. 

You might be of a different opinion on that, but that's how I see it. 

with the knew events and the 50% bonus' even diplomacy is pointless now.  why do i need to befriend a league, when i can buy enough power to wipe them out. 
Several players and leagues thought that true. Even with buffs, debuffs, bonuses, deficits, breaking alliances and league attacks on Beacons still failed and retaliation was brutal. Misjudging a league's strengths, and alliances can be detrimental to any league. Without mentioning names one league is being torn apart by a Marshall that miscalculated.
Its hard to judge a leagues strength when that can fluctuate with the swipe of a credit card. a beacon could have no troops inside, but in the time it takes to process a card it could be the most defended beacon on the map.  how can you strategize with a variable like that?
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glasherz
Moderator
20 August, 2016, 11:53 PM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

Its hard to judge a leagues strength when that can fluctuate with the swipe of a credit card. a beacon could have no troops inside, but in the time it takes to process a card it could be the most defended beacon on the map.  how can you strategize with a variable like that?
That is a very good question. I usually check the levels of players and maybe click some of the castles. Lots of good walls and stuff inside = for sure a coiner. Also I know a lot of people who send spies into the other leagues to find out what they've got in the beacons long before they attack. Might not be the most honest way but it works for sure. You definitely get to know how the other league defends and what their plans are. Personally, I refuse to send spies to others. But I have friends who do have spies in other leagues and who give me input on their defenses if I would ever need them. 
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IronApex Turok
21 August, 2016, 1:51 AM UTC

glasherz said:


IronApex Turok said:


Its hard to judge a leagues strength when that can fluctuate with the swipe of a credit card. a beacon could have no troops inside, but in the time it takes to process a card it could be the most defended beacon on the map.  how can you strategize with a variable like that?
That is a very good question. I usually check the levels of players and maybe click some of the castles. Lots of good walls and stuff inside = for sure a coiner. Also I know a lot of people who send spies into the other leagues to find out what they've got in the beacons long before they attack. Might not be the most honest way but it works for sure. You definitely get to know how the other league defends and what their plans are. Personally, I refuse to send spies to others. But I have friends who do have spies in other leagues and who give me input on their defenses if I would ever need them. 

good walls could mean they were around years ago when you could earn decent sapphires.


having a spy in someones league would mean having alts, which is against the rules. are you suggesting we dont have to follow the rules?
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glasherz
Moderator
21 August, 2016, 12:13 PM UTC

Well Ironapex, that wall check isn't foolproof. It certainly is also possible, they had been build long ago. 

And no, I do not suggest to get an alt at all. You could send a good trustworthy friend too. Probably, this depends on how important the attack on the other league is then, if you choose to keep your friend in your league or send him over to spy for you.

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dworka777
21 August, 2016, 12:43 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
Your IQ is low. This just a strategy to brain wash people to spend money. To prolong the game to actually play the game.  Hoping that people will leave with Plarium to make profits. This not a war game. SCAM
I do not understand your attitude. Maybe you define war differently than most people. Please do not be insulting.

The sad part of his post is that it is all truth, don't know how about your IQ, but Moderators do not speak for us regular players. So the only question is if you are playing a fool or you are an actual fool.

Please do not take it as an insult but take it as our point of view, the game is rotten to core. And instead of fixing we are only proposed new shiny things which only a few elite cash players can reach. You were distracting us like this for a long time but nevermore.

So the only question is if you want to have a great game or money sucker.

But I think it is already too late and decision has been made.
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Gadheras
21 August, 2016, 1:11 PM UTC
dworka777 said:

brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
Your IQ is low. This just a strategy to brain wash people to spend money. To prolong the game to actually play the game.  Hoping that people will leave with Plarium to make profits. This not a war game. SCAM
I do not understand your attitude. Maybe you define war differently than most people. Please do not be insulting.

The sad part of his post is that it is all truth, don't know how about your IQ, but Moderators do not speak for us regular players. So the only question is if you are playing a fool or you are an actual fool.

Please do not take it as an insult but take it as our point of view, the game is rotten to core. And instead of fixing we are only proposed new shiny things which only a few elite cash players can reach. You were distracting us like this for a long time but nevermore.

So the only question is if you want to have a great game or money sucker.

But I think it is already too late and decision has been made.
you can only dig a hole for so long, until to late to crawl out of it.
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brunsonthomas
21 August, 2016, 6:21 PM UTC
Gadheras said:

dworka777 said:

brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
Your IQ is low. This just a strategy to brain wash people to spend money. To prolong the game to actually play the game.  Hoping that people will leave with Plarium to make profits. This not a war game. SCAM
I do not understand your attitude. Maybe you define war differently than most people. Please do not be insulting.

The sad part of his post is that it is all truth, don't know how about your IQ, but Moderators do not speak for us regular players. So the only question is if you are playing a fool or you are an actual fool.

Please do not take it as an insult but take it as our point of view, the game is rotten to core. And instead of fixing we are only proposed new shiny things which only a few elite cash players can reach. You were distracting us like this for a long time but nevermore.

So the only question is if you want to have a great game or money sucker.

But I think it is already too late and decision has been made.
you can only dig a hole for so long, until to late to crawl out of it.
All of us Moderators are regular players as well as Moderators. That is one of the conditions required. We are not here to judge anyone but to help players understand the game and moderate posts that are possibly inflammatory or breaking posted rules.
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IronApex Turok
21 August, 2016, 7:54 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

Gadheras said:

dworka777 said:

brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


brunsonthomas said:


Osiris said:


This is not even a war game you made a farmville. You made all top leagues girls who pick any who not even a challenge. They all ally up to farm to pick on any one who dont spend money. You call this a game? It just a scam, whoever can waste the most money and bully all the non spenders.

You are entitled to your opinion. Obviously you have not defended a Fortress, captured a Beacon, or defended a Beacon against multiple league attacks. Any of these actions will show you a war game.
Your IQ is low. This just a strategy to brain wash people to spend money. To prolong the game to actually play the game.  Hoping that people will leave with Plarium to make profits. This not a war game. SCAM
I do not understand your attitude. Maybe you define war differently than most people. Please do not be insulting.

The sad part of his post is that it is all truth, don't know how about your IQ, but Moderators do not speak for us regular players. So the only question is if you are playing a fool or you are an actual fool.

Please do not take it as an insult but take it as our point of view, the game is rotten to core. And instead of fixing we are only proposed new shiny things which only a few elite cash players can reach. You were distracting us like this for a long time but nevermore.

So the only question is if you want to have a great game or money sucker.

But I think it is already too late and decision has been made.
you can only dig a hole for so long, until to late to crawl out of it.
All of us Moderators are regular players as well as Moderators. That is one of the conditions required. We are not here to judge anyone but to help players understand the game and moderate posts that are possibly inflammatory or breaking posted rules.
And we as regular players are there for the same reason. to help plarium and staff to understand how we feel about the game.  The general consenus is that this is not a war strategy game. its a battle of bank accounts. 
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
22 August, 2016, 9:07 AM UTC

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For example,

I don't like feature A, because of this: ..........

I would suggest that you change this: ............


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