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Experienced Moderators Needed

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djmoody
8 July, 2016, 1:17 AM UTC

Can we have some experienced moderators please.

I would suggest moderators should have:

- been playing the game for over 1 year min

- extensive knowledge and experience of the game mechanics

- have significant history of posting to the forum

- are well connected and known within the game and respected within the community

We seem to have picked up 2 new moderators recently. You have kindly added a mechanism which tells us how experienced they are by adding the unique user ID to the forums (the ID is sequential). Both moderators are 1.1m+ which clearly marks them out as complete noobs. Nice people I am sure, who through no fault of their own meet no sensible criteria.

The last point is extremely important. For there to be any legitimacy for people to be given powers above and beyond the rest of us and for us to quietly accept that, there is a need for us to respect their authority.

This is extremely important when one considers that the forum mods don't just moderate the forums but are given unique access to inside information and the ability to directly voice coms with Plarium staff. They could be a huge positive force in improving the game.... if they understood it at all.

Can we please end the appointment of random new players who don't know anything about the game, have no feel for the tone of the forums and state of the developer/player relationship and who haven't been around long enough to have contributed anything to have gained any respect from anyone.

It doesn't do anyone any good.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Jezebel
8 July, 2016, 1:22 AM UTC

djmoody said:


Can we have some experienced moderators please.

I would suggest moderators should have:

- been playing the game for over 1 year min

- extensive knowledge and experience of the game mechanics

- have significant history of posting to the forum

- are well connected and known within the game and respected within the community


I vote DJ Moody for moderator!!!

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Nemstar
8 July, 2016, 4:10 AM UTC

Jezebel said:


djmoody said:


Can we have some experienced moderators please.

I would suggest moderators should have:

- been playing the game for over 1 year min

- extensive knowledge and experience of the game mechanics

- have significant history of posting to the forum

- are well connected and known within the game and respected within the community


I vote DJ Moody for moderator!!!

I 2nd that vote!!!
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Skycooldude
8 July, 2016, 4:33 AM UTC

Nemstar said:


Jezebel said:


djmoody said:


Can we have some experienced moderators please.

I would suggest moderators should have:

- been playing the game for over 1 year min

- extensive knowledge and experience of the game mechanics

- have significant history of posting to the forum

- are well connected and known within the game and respected within the community


I vote DJ Moody for moderator!!!

I 2nd that vote!!!

He has my vote as well!!!!!


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Gadheras
8 July, 2016, 8:06 AM UTC



a good moderator doesnt necessary need to have extensive knowledge of the game. he/she just need to be able to follow the forum rules and guidelines like everyone else and be unbiased in their moderation. Have a good grasp on the English language is also a big pluss. 



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Stewart
8 July, 2016, 9:35 AM UTC

djmoody said:


This is extremely important when one considers that the forum mods don't just moderate the forums but are given unique access to inside information and the ability to directly voice coms with Plarium staff. They could be a huge positive force in improving the game.... if they understood it at all.


Noodle maker extreme
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Stewart
8 July, 2016, 9:36 AM UTC

Is this a good idea for active players to have access to inside information?

Such as letting a leagues members know that BG mechanics were going to be changed before they were changed.

Noodle maker extreme
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Drogar61
8 July, 2016, 2:17 PM UTC

Stewart_KT1 said:


Is this a good idea for active players to have access to inside information?

Such as letting a leagues members know that BG mechanics were going to be changed before they were changed.

Ofc, that is wrong 100%. But Moderators have only one purpose - to keep Forum clean.

Why they took role of Developers, or much better Game Designers, I have no idea except if someone doesn't know what is what in Development industry.


What we need is Role of somebody from Plarium who knows how things work.

Maybe I have answer, on my own doubt. Plarium don't want to give us any valuable information, and we have luck of Dev role (any name is acceptable for me, but with sense I described), and simple sacrifice Mods, for hand of sapps. From the other side, Mods become something special (mostly in own heads) and party can start. They don't know answers on our questions, but they have own opinion. During time, some Mods were OK, trying to do their job, and from time to time to add some knowledge, as they have at the moment. Several Mods didn't understand who they are, and tried to be X factor, but they didn't count on our reactions. One thing we learned because of them: BIg Rule about Mods. 

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Ichezis
8 July, 2016, 3:49 PM UTC

Greetings m'lords and ladies!

I'm the living evidence as I'm a moderator myself and I can assure all of you that us moderators are not here to pester any of you; in the contrary!
We spend at least 4 hours a day attempting to help the people all around here, sometimes the issue's fixed by us, sometimes we have to refer the player to the Help Desk, sometimes we need a Community Manager; but whatever it is, we'll do it for you guys!

We as moderators didn't decide becoming one just for ourselves, we became one to spend time on helping others.

Not just us Moderators are here for you all, what'd Plarium make Community Managers for? Exactly, m'lord! The Community Managers are here to make sure the moderators are fine, the game and forum run flawlessly (if it doesn't they inform the developers/technical team), they check whether the players are fine, and lots more! Trust me, Community Managers aren't here to pester either, they're here to assist you all, the moderators, etc. with all they can!

Same thing for the Help Desk, they weren't assigned there if they didn't have to help. They might not reply within seconds as they usually have to read a lot of messages, but they are definitely here to assist you with urgent, important, severe issues or anything related to that!

We'd be glad if you, DJMoody, want to join the Moderator team, all you have to do is message Leonidas and follow his instructions.

I hope this made some sense. 

Good luck!
Plarium Global Moderator; "We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone."
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djmoody
10 July, 2016, 12:35 AM UTC

Well i didn't start the thread to promote myself as an option but appreciate the votes of confidence.

I may be a bit too much of a bitter vet now to be a mod. There was a time a while back when I would have bitten people's hands off to have direct access to Plarium staff to be able to influence the future direction of the game for the better. I know I could do a very good job of that. Not 100% sure I still have the dedication to the game to do that role justice now.

I'll have a good think about it.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Vladimir Stojanovic
10 July, 2016, 10:54 AM UTC

djmoody said:


Can we have some experienced moderators please.

I would suggest moderators should have:

- been playing the game for over 1 year min

- extensive knowledge and experience of the game mechanics

- have significant history of posting to the forum

- are well connected and known within the game and respected within the community

We seem to have picked up 2 new moderators recently. You have kindly added a mechanism which tells us how experienced they are by adding the unique user ID to the forums (the ID is sequential). Both moderators are 1.1m+ which clearly marks them out as complete noobs. Nice people I am sure, who through no fault of their own meet no sensible criteria.

The last point is extremely important. For there to be any legitimacy for people to be given powers above and beyond the rest of us and for us to quietly accept that, there is a need for us to respect their authority.

This is extremely important when one considers that the forum mods don't just moderate the forums but are given unique access to inside information and the ability to directly voice coms with Plarium staff. They could be a huge positive force in improving the game.... if they understood it at all.

Can we please end the appointment of random new players who don't know anything about the game, have no feel for the tone of the forums and state of the developer/player relationship and who haven't been around long enough to have contributed anything to have gained any respect from anyone.

It doesn't do anyone any good.

I think this applies to me and Nemanja?
Well to give you hint do not look on date when we registered on the forum ;)

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brunsonthomas
10 July, 2016, 5:56 PM UTC
I am one of the newest moderators. Why am I here? To help people understand the game and how it works. How did I get here? I volunteered and passed the required criteria and a probation period. Am I the best qualified, probably not,but I learn quickly, I have computer experience, 35 years. Programming experience, software knowledge, management experience. I have developed language skills and empathy with frustrated people. What else would you like to know that I can reveal without revealing proprietary or personal information not relevant to the game?
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IronApex Turok
11 July, 2016, 10:36 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


I am one of the newest moderators. Why am I here? To help people understand the game and how it works. How did I get here? I volunteered and passed the required criteria and a probation period. Am I the best qualified, probably not,but I learn quickly, I have computer experience, 35 years. Programming experience, software knowledge, management experience. I have developed language skills and empathy with frustrated people. What else would you like to know that I can reveal without revealing proprietary or personal information not relevant to the game?

what is Your in game name

what are coords to your castle

what league you play with

how long you have been playing

which server you play on, or both

how much inside access do you get

do you know when beacon drops will come

what is the tax rate on the battlegrounds

why were the battlegrounds changed

can  you see my account and whats in my castle

what is your contact chain to the developers

Where is it that you applied for role of moderator

what were the criteria



lets just start with these. there are thousands more perfectly relevant questions on the forum, the easy ones first.


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Drogar61
11 July, 2016, 10:42 PM UTC

If these are easier questions, how will look harder? 

P.S.: First two are crucial. 
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Stewart
11 July, 2016, 11:06 PM UTC
Drogar61 said:

If these are easier questions, how will look harder? 

P.S.: First two are crucial. 
There is a post he made in another topic 27 hours an 53 minutes after the post in this topic that gives enough info to find location and coords
Noodle maker extreme
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Drogar61
11 July, 2016, 11:19 PM UTC
Stewart_KT1 said:

Drogar61 said:

If these are easier questions, how will look harder? 

P.S.: First two are crucial. 
There is a post he made in another topic 27 hours an 53 minutes after the post in this topic that gives enough info to find location and coords
I'm joking, ofc :)
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Stewart
11 July, 2016, 11:35 PM UTC
of course, i was only putting a burr under his saddle for fun, And showing that if you want not to be known just how carefull you must be in what you do/say
Noodle maker extreme
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exxxe
11 July, 2016, 11:54 PM UTC

lords and ladies 


NONE of these questions will define whether a moderator is equipped to be a moderator or not 


i will look at things from a different view :-

1) why would moderators know inside information ??

they will not be able to share it in the forum and there is no way they share it inside the game with friends, league mates without being exposed

and even if they use it for their own advantage without sharing how would they do that 

example:-


- beacon drops 

this requires an entire league to be an unfair advantage in addition even if the moderator is the marshal there would be no chance for him to use the advantage without being exposed and with spies in nearly every league how hard till exposed to the entire game

if a league starts winning on every beacon drop wouldn't the big leagues notice (unless he is in one but competition between top leagues is high he would be exposed immediately) 


2) why would plarium give such an advantage to a moderator, how would he use it for the forums 

 the only way this is an advantage is in game and that means a player with big armies or a very powerful league (always one step ahead)  how is that good for plarium 

 

what i mean here is that giving moderators inside info DOES not make any sense and has NO good for plarium or the game what so ever 

3) moderators do not have inside information if they do they will be noticed and you all will have an evidence to share here in forums


and that would be something that makes no sense 


I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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exxxe
12 July, 2016, 12:06 AM UTC

moderator tasks are restricted for the forums only 


all they need is info about the game (means that they play it)


there are some experienced moderators and some who is not bottom line is that they answer the questions they can based on their knowledge 


if it is wrong then some players corrects it or  community managers corrects it or a different moderator with more experience and knowledge corrects it 

 

how is that a big problem and why do you feel current moderators are not experienced some of them ARE experienced


my conclusion is 


moderators do NOT have inside access

there is a whole moderation team not just one person and they all answer to the best they can and there is always a community manager to follow up


and a player becomes a moderator because they satisfied the minimum amount of knowledge and experience required

I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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IronApex Turok
12 July, 2016, 12:08 AM UTC

exxxe said:


lords and ladies 


NONE of these questions will define whether a moderator is equipped to be a moderator or not 


i will look at things from a different view :-

1) why would moderators know inside information ??

they are not allowed to share it in forum and there is no way they share it inside the game with friends, league mates without being exposed

and even if they use it for their own advantage without sharing how would they do that 

example:-


- beacon drops 

this requires an entire league to be a unfair advantage in addition even if the moderator is the marshal there would be no chance for him to use the advantage without being exposed and with spies in nearly every league how hard till exposed to the entire game

if a league starts winning on every beacon drop wouldn't the big leagues notice (unless he is in one but competition between top leagues is high he would be exposed immediately) 


2) why would plarium give such an advantage to a moderator, how would he use it for the forums 

 the only way this is an advantage is in game and that means a player with big armies how is that good for plarium or a very powerful league (always one step ahead) 
 

what i mean here is that giving moderators inside info DOES not make any sense and has NO good for plarium or the game what so ever 

3) moderators do not have inside information if they do they will be noticed and you all will have an evidence to share here in forums

and that would be something that makes no sense 


This has been the great mystery of the moderators since oberon left and they appeared.


they have slip of tongues that seems to defy logic.  even in game whispers of prior knowledge of game changes being dropped by moderators in league chat. 


so do they or dont they have inside knowledge?
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