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What it takes to apply to join LordsOfTheBlackRose on Untamed Lands

Hello, everyone. I recently came back to the game after some time off and I decided to find me a new home. I looked around, and decided to apply to join the Lords themselves. After a brief pleasant conversation with the leader, I was put through a vetting process, and the fun begins.


I see all my sieges around my castle are liberated, and my attempts to re-take them fail as they are now loaded. I look out the window and this guy has teleported right next to me. It's Sorton, a mega spender from LordsOfTheBlackRose. And so the conversation begins.


[00:26] Papa: Hey Sorton. Something I said that provoked you?

[00:29] Sorton: provoked is such a strong word. I wouldn't use 'provoked'

[00:29] Papa: Inspired? :)

[00:29] Sorton: temporarily interested

[00:30] Papa: It is nice to see you when I look outside the window though. My property value just skyrocketed! (fancy VIP pink castle)

[00:30] Papa: Hey, I've been interested in you for years. Finally you came around :D How are you doing today?

[00:31] Sorton: I don't know you. I don't have you on my friends list. And now you tell me that you've secretly stalked me for 'years'.

[00:32] Sorton: Joky has a bunch on this plate and most of our captains are working on some other things right now so he asked me to look into you.

[00:32] Papa: Hahaha, nah. Just remember you from way back in the day when I used to play. I have been dormant for almost 2 years. I used to be in the LotBR.

[00:33] Papa: Ahhh, I see. You have an interesting way of looking into people, but I like your approach.

[00:35] Sorton: I was in LoTBR 2 years ago... why aren't you on my friends list? reactions tell a hunter a great deal.

[00:38] Papa: Ahh, you are a huntress? I dig! Not sure why we aren't on friends list. But then again, 90% of my friends are gone from my friends list. I was in LotBR for a short period of time, it wasn't the league I spent most of my 83 levels in. I spent most of my time in Untamed Kings. But it seems like they all quit :/

[00:49] Papa: You left me... There goes the property value... (at this point he teleported away, as I am under the return bubble, can't really do nothing with me)

[01:44] Sorton: This entire server is my property LOL your property value remains intact.

[01:47] Papa: :) Good to know I'm in good hands. It is a pleasure chatting with you. The lack of good company is the number one reason so many people moved on from the game. Hope you keep it up.

[01:51] Sorton: I talk to everyone... weellll AT everyone... it's an animal thing

[01:56] Papa: You're funny, I like you.

[01:56] Sorton: I'm not sure about you. Convince me to let you into my league. (the man calls it "HIS" league while not being the leader, which is always interesting to me)

[02:00] Papa: Hahaha. I'm not sure I am THAT committed to any game I play. I love people, above all. But never make me work for it, cause then I'll lose the fun in it. I respect that you have completely different standards by which you want to pick people to be around (than me), but by my standards - I would pay money to have people like me around me. Shame you didn't get that from our brief interaction here.

[02:08] Sorton: If I am too understand correctly you don't want to work for anything you want a chat room and to be handed 'quest rewards from others work' ? Did I get that right? Perhaps you should look at another league I'm sure many would think you an upgrade on some of their members. You seem to be very personable and there are many leagues that would value that above all but here in LoTBR we strive for members that do more than just show up.

[02:10] Papa: Perhaps I was wrong about you. Thank you for your time.  (at this point I feel like this is just not a conversation I want to have and I am ready to move on)

[02:11] Sorton: You weren't wrong about me. Good Luck.

It's over. We've said what we wanted to say and I move on to raiding bots, upgrading my stuff, getting all 4 of my hammers building, etc. Some hours pass and I decide to go and retake my former sieges, thinking his experiment is over and he has certainly recalled his units from there. I sent out my units at all those locations at once, they all died without a report on what's in there. So I try to take other small abandoned castles, other then the ones I was holding, all resulting in the same failure to siege them. So I decide to hell with him and those sieges and just stopped trying to take them. And.... messages continue.

[04:39] Sorton: that took you a long time

[04:39] Sorton: why did you quit trying?

[04:43] Papa: I could understand you hitting the 3 sieges I took for a friend of mine right next to me for his quests to liberate. I did not expect you would also load other nearby castles. I just don't get your logic. But whatever makes your boat float.

[04:50] Sorton: It's not for you too understand child (he says to a father of 5 children and 4 grandchildren). It is for me to learn about you. You asked my marshal to join my league (he goes to referring to it as "HIS" league again). My marshal gave the process of determining if you would be a valued asset to the league to me. You have never been in BR and if you were you don't fight like it which means you either lied or you're a raw recruit. If you're a raw recruit you talk and act like you know stuff and are experienced but you have no desire to 'work' for a league. People that don't wanna work are usually people that feel like they don't have to work. Entitled. BR doesn't really care about titles.

[04:52] Sorton: My last message to him was a resounding NO. it is up to you too change that evaluation.

[04:55] Papa: :) To be honest, from this interaction, I wouldn't join the league just because you have any weight in the league. Other than your purchasing power, I saw absolute zero value in you as a liaison. If you wanted me to answer specific questions, you could just ask them. But the games you play, and the "child".... This shows me that I am not dealing with a person I enjoy dealing with, hence the "I was wrong about you" statement. You could have simply asked, "do you have an army, how much, are you willing to defend the fortress/beacons with it" to determine whether I am a "worker".

[04:56] Papa: Instead you went "Trump voter" mode and just disgusted me with your entire approach and behavior. So yeah, I have zero respect for a person like you and glad I learned what I needed to learn not to commit to people I wouldn't want to be caught dead with. So have a nice day? ;)

[05:19] Sorton: It's an interesting perspective you've shown me. If my 'attitude' has turned you off from joining BR let me try to push a little more such that you not only don't want to join BR but want to fight us to the death. I don't care about your numbers I can see your profile and you haven't put in the effort in the past. So you say, I've been gone... and I say what's your army size? and you say I have 20m and I say 'you don't use em'... If you want that conversation it's another indicator you should be in a different league.

[05:22] Papa: I will stop talking to you before my IQ drops. I have seen and know some of the biggest spenders in this game, but none as rеtаrded as you are :) I won't fight you, as you fight "dirty", and I won't fight BR, as I have no reason to, despite your provocation. But I hope you grow up before you grow old. Adding you to the blocked list. Baaaaaaaiiiiiiii. 


And so ends the most productive conver... It was not a productive conversation. I was insulted, my army size or how I use my units was insulted by a guy who spent countless thousands of dollars on the game, and I was left thinking what the actual f$#@. Take what you can from this, but if you decide to join this league and the Marshal sends this guy to talk to you, well, you know what to expect.



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Aug 25, 2018, 04:1808/25/18
10/15/15
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Papa said:


Hello, everyone. I recently came back to the game after some time off and I decided to find me a new home. I looked around, and decided to apply to join the Lords themselves. After a brief pleasant conversation with the leader, I was put through a vetting process, and the fun begins.



It's over. We've said what we wanted to say and I move on to raiding bots, upgrading my stuff, getting all 4 of my hammers building, etc. Some hours pass and I decide to go and retake my former sieges, thinking his experiment is over and he has certainly recalled his units from there. I sent out my units at all those locations at once, they all died without a report on what's in there. So I try to take other small abandoned castles, other then the ones I was holding, all resulting in the same failure to siege them. So I decide to hell with him and those sieges and just stopped trying to take them. And.... messages continue.


[04:43] Papa: I could understand you hitting the 3 sieges I took for a friend of mine right next to me for his quests to liberate. I did not expect you would also load other nearby castles. I just don't get your logic. But whatever makes your boat float.



And so ends the most productive conver... It was not a productive conversation. I was insulted, my army size or how I use my units was insulted by a guy who spent countless thousands of dollars on the game, and I was left thinking what the actual f$#@. Take what you can from this, but if you decide to join this league and the Marshal sends this guy to talk to you, well, you know what to expect.



You have been weighed, measured, and found wanting...


Spoken like a true farmer---imagine a thinking ,smart enemy that was looking to engage you by leaving troops in fiefs waiting for you for hours(while you went back to farming, surprise!)? Imagine attacking a player to test their game knowledge, and fighting ability?

And learn to fight bigger enemies. Claiming someone is a coiner in a pay to win game is failure and a lack of imagination.

I have been in BR for about 7 years and I do not know you. Seems you started out with falsehood which Sorton obviously spotted, and tested you. You can earn your spot here, but you must fight, not whine, and definetly not claim "bullying" on the forums(which is exactly what this post is). THERE IS NO BULLYING IN A PAY TO WIN GAME!

Be sure to join any of the the current top ten leagues who hate BR to seek your revenge. Wait, that's all of them! They have been plotting our downfall for years. Maybe one day they will get their revenge on our abandoned castle in 10 years when we all quit from boredom. We need farms.


BTW- we invite people alot- we have a 10 million defense minimum or  a "sponsorship" system. We invite noobs and teach them, train them, and supply them but they must EARN their place here. I know that is a crazy concept.

Aug 25, 2018, 04:3608/25/18
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Hot_Nickelz said:


Papa said:


Hello, everyone. I recently came back to the game after some time off and I decided to find me a new home. I looked around, and decided to apply to join the Lords themselves. After a brief pleasant conversation with the leader, I was put through a vetting process, and the fun begins.



It's over. We've said what we wanted to say and I move on to raiding bots, upgrading my stuff, getting all 4 of my hammers building, etc. Some hours pass and I decide to go and retake my former sieges, thinking his experiment is over and he has certainly recalled his units from there. I sent out my units at all those locations at once, they all died without a report on what's in there. So I try to take other small abandoned castles, other then the ones I was holding, all resulting in the same failure to siege them. So I decide to hell with him and those sieges and just stopped trying to take them. And.... messages continue.


[04:43] Papa: I could understand you hitting the 3 sieges I took for a friend of mine right next to me for his quests to liberate. I did not expect you would also load other nearby castles. I just don't get your logic. But whatever makes your boat float.



And so ends the most productive conver... It was not a productive conversation. I was insulted, my army size or how I use my units was insulted by a guy who spent countless thousands of dollars on the game, and I was left thinking what the actual f$#@. Take what you can from this, but if you decide to join this league and the Marshal sends this guy to talk to you, well, you know what to expect.



You have been weighed, measured, and found wanting...


Spoken like a true farmer---imagine a thinking ,smart enemy that was looking to engage you by leaving troops in fiefs waiting for you for hours(while you went back to farming, surprise!)? Imagine attacking a player to test their game knowledge, and fighting ability?

And learn to fight bigger enemies. Claiming someone is a coiner in a pay to win game is failure and a lack of imagination.

I have been in BR for about 7 years and I do not know you. Seems you started out with falsehood which Sorton obviously spotted, and tested you. You can earn your spot here, but you must fight, not whine, and definetly not claim "bullying" on the forums(which is exactly what this post is). THERE IS NO BULLYING IN A PAY TO WIN GAME!

Be sure to join any of the the current top ten leagues who hate BR to seek your revenge. Wait, that's all of them! They have been plotting our downfall for years. Maybe one day they will get their revenge on our abandoned castle in 10 years when we all quit from boredom. We need farms.


BTW- we invite people alot- we have a 10 million defense minimum or  a "sponsorship" system. We invite noobs and teach them, train them, and supply them but they must EARN their place here. I know that is a crazy concept.

Sorry Hot Nickelz I have to correct you Untamed lands has only been in existence since 2015 :))


cheers!!
Aug 25, 2018, 17:1708/25/18
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Sir Dan Saul Knight said:


Jezebel said:



Sorry Hot Nickelz I have to correct you Untamed lands has only been in existence since 2015 :))


cheers!!

Owned - lol.

The thing with mega coiners is that they general have massive personality flaws. It just isn't rational or logical to sink tends of thousands into this very poor game.


 I am a mega coiner. $35  in 5 years. 

Our current leader $100 in 5 years. 

Our greatest Captain (Azurina)  $0.


Sure we have Bob who is a top coiner--but Bob ONLY attacks beacons and fortresses. He does no BGs, no points in league tourneys, and rarely talks in chat. (has he attacked anything in 2 years?)

 We win league tourneys etc with teamwork. Our Captains are voted in by other captains (unanimously or they are not elevated), and all major decisions are put to a Capts vote. We hold weekly meetings open to ALL members to get input from all our members.

We have no allies--we allow our players to attack where and what they want. 

Karma is a b#tch I agree. And it is Karma why we sit on top. We never had allies, we do not recruit farmers, we do not promote people who do not deserve it (no matter how big their army), we do boot people who can not follow basic teamwork guidelines (no matter how big they are), and we keep fun first. BR is not about winning it is about fun.


Every other league on Untamed Lands and probably other servers has major problems that are their own fault. They do not keep fun first, they lack good officers and good fighters, they lack teamwork and leadership and ONLY fight easy targets and claim they are winning! Their officers and or leader are simply in that position because they have big armies and manipulate their league mates for their OWN selfish reasons. The number 1 requirement for an officer or a leader should be to put their league first BEFORE their own personal game goals. 

Our record stands for itself---we have had coalitions of 10+ league attack just BR. We did not form allies or beg them to stop. Lol. We just were smart and fought until everyone in their coalition begs for mercy, stops attacking us because all their guys are sick of losing troops, or falls apart.

This is a war game. If you have an allied league--your a farmer--if you only attack players/leagues smaller then you---your a farmer---if you whine in mails or forums about enemies--your a farmer. That is the truth.

Please tell all your friends---recruit people to attack us, from our server, other server, other games etc. We welcome war, every day, all day. Come take down our fort, spend 200K to do it. We will not care. No one will quit BR, we will rebuild and continue to fight. Winning or losing means nothing. Keep fun first.

Aug 26, 2018, 05:1108/26/18
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Sir Dan Saul Knight said:


I am not that interested tbh. Not my server and game holds little interest now to be interested in the politics of the other servers.

From what the guy wrote he is a total tool. BR may be a great league but you are having to invest time in posting here as damage control after all..... which kind of says it all about the behavior.

The only element that interested me at all really was how often the mega coiners turn out to have the social awareness of early teenagers. I didn't even know adults like that existed until this game.

Damage control? Lol. I post here to see the trolls come out. Everyone knows forum pvp > mail pvp > game pvp.

While many BR players may respond to idiots differently then I do, I see no problem with anything Sorton did or said. He has every right to be annoyed at an obvious farmer, and most likely spy, trying to join our league. This happens to BR all the time, and my officers get sick of dealing with kids, idiots and or spys.

You must be new to getting hate mail if you think what Sorton said is offensive. I have received numerous insults to my mother, my wife, and kids in hate mail--and some of my members have even received death threats (which was duly reported and offending player warned by Plarium). I hjave been threatened with arrest, hacking threats, and accused of being a sexual predator. Par for course. Shrugs. 

Unlike most league, we actually have standards for how our players act in hate mail which is clearly stated in our charter. I have reported obscene hate mail to many league leaders with never a satisfactory answer from those leagues leaders, but it's their league--not mine--and they can conduct their business as they see fit. 

I do not send hate mail even though I receive the MOST hate in game by a wide margin---I will just attack every player in your league 3-5 times a day for a year and post all the hate mail in my league chat to laugh at.

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Hot_Nickelz said:


Damage control? Lol. I post here to see the trolls come out. Everyone knows forum pvp > mail pvp > game pvp.

While many BR players may respond to idiots differently then I do, I see no problem with anything Sorton did or said. He has every right to be annoyed at an obvious farmer, and most likely spy, trying to join our league. This happens to BR all the time, and my officers get sick of dealing with kids, idiots and or spys.

You must be new to getting hate mail if you think what Sorton said is offensive. I have received numerous insults to my mother, my wife, and kids in hate mail--and some of my members have even received death threats (which was duly reported and offending player warned by Plarium). I hjave been threatened with arrest, hacking threats, and accused of being a sexual predator. Par for course. Shrugs. 

Unlike most league, we actually have standards for how our players act in hate mail which is clearly stated in our charter. I have reported obscene hate mail to many league leaders with never a satisfactory answer from those leagues leaders, but it's their league--not mine--and they can conduct their business as they see fit. 

I do not send hate mail even though I receive the MOST hate in game by a wide margin---I will just attack every player in your league 3-5 times a day for a year and post all the hate mail in my league chat to laugh at.

You remind me of someone. You lie and when caught lying you wont even acknowledge it (7 years in BR). Then you make claims that are most likely false ("I receive the MOST hate in game by a wide margin"). Use "fake news" and "witch hunt" in your posts and you are one tangerine with a blond toupee.

Aug 26, 2018, 22:1508/26/18
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Discussions are good, but it is rare that there's no edge to the sword and many are prepared to cut and slice before understanding what is said because they have some ill feeling.


Enjoy the game guys. Use your skills and strategy to make you smile but don't get upset when your best plans fail because you were outsmarted. I will say that there's some smart guys out there in many different leagues and this is what makes things challenging. LotBR and LJ have no allies and yet they do well. BDL are strong and DP and KT are not far behind.


Enjoy the game, enjoy the challenge.


I salute you all

Aug 26, 2018, 23:2208/26/18
10/07/16
2

Agree.

It is a war game and we are meant to plan and enact encounters with others.

The verbal interactions we have with others adds to the interest in the game - for better or worse.

BR is my league - yes, i claim ownership, it would be nothing without its members and each of us should claim ownership. If we don't, then are we really a part of the team?


I was lucky enough to join them when I first came to the game. They have always been supportive and taught me what to do. I know other leagues don't do this. Members will donate units for smaller members to kill so they can get points. Scrolls are traded or given freely if necessary, as are resources. Advice and tactics are taught to those who ask, even known spies. :) We figure this will make the game better.


Why do we post here? hahaha probably because we are bored and have nothing better to do!!  Have a great game.

Aug 27, 2018, 04:4008/27/18
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This is a war game and it was created for people who love strategy. As a war game it is not suitable for those people, so called farmers, because they will always find something or someone to complain about.

You want to gather resources only for your self, building army that will get rusty in your catacombs, not getting never in a battle? eh well....you have chosen the wrong game.

No need to be a coiner to be a good player. You can have all the money in the world and still get slapped by someone who really knows strategy.


I was blamed and lost "friends" after I joined BR...but you know what? I don't care. I never felt so free to play the game the way I always wanted.

You hit me? - I eat you alive.....all this without passing thru that painful process of diplomacy which means "speak with a captain that will speak with the marshal to evaluate the situation and maybe one day you will get an answer from that captain you sent the complain first"...

BR is freedom, is a strong team thinking and working together, is strategy, it's fun.... and it's my league.



Aug 27, 2018, 04:4608/27/18
12/08/14
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I almost forgot....

For all those hating BR for one reason or other (not that I care), please fill up the report you see in the down picture and forward it to one of our captains 



Aug 30, 2018, 18:4408/30/18
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Regarding those who put in tens of thousands of dollars in the game.

On server three farwols crown email server there is synergy which is a league of 160 members who are all high level coiners. I once was in synergy but was thrown out to make room for more coiners. So i have to say that the best leagues are those with the biggest spenders
Sep 6, 2018, 20:0009/06/18
Sep 7, 2018, 09:54(edited)
10/31/14
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I have played mmrpg games for years. The biggest problem with people, especially the so called experienced, veteran players is their PERSONAlizing the game. BR is a fighting league, I don't like them, hell I hate this Nickel banana with passion. But let's be honest. There is nothing wrong with sorton's vetting system.

 

BR is a fighting league. What you actually showed Sorton is that you're an extrovert, you like to follow orders, and as he put it, you are entitled. 


I am sorry if I offended you, but I find that many people in this game(forum) like to take everything too personal that they fail to see the bigger picture. We're all here to have fun. If my having fun is spending 1$ every hour and being a bully, fine. Is all for fun. 


How you subjectively define fun has no bearing on this game. But it does have a bearing on a league. Objectivity matters in a league. 

As much as I want to judge. I too won't have wanted sorton in my league, or play in a league that values his character.

 I find BR play style too foolish and of bad taste. But that doesn't mean I should always carry this mentality EVERYWHERE. 

Sep 11, 2018, 19:1909/11/18
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I completely agree. I know this is off topic, but, I am looking for players to join Server 3 ( farwols Crown. Ironclad league. We have no affiliation with Ironclad on server 1  and we are looking for players who play the game and don't quit
Sep 11, 2018, 19:2009/11/18
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or whine like a baby
Sep 13, 2018, 20:4909/13/18
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Oracle said:


 I hate this Nickel banana with passion. 

Name and coords of your toon on server 2? Or just league that happens to allow you to play with them.


Thanks.
Sep 14, 2018, 01:4509/14/18
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he's gonna send his pike....
Sep 16, 2018, 19:3809/16/18
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lol well thanks for the amusement I haven't seen much on the forums that is entertaining for a while now ....


I think people need to get back to fighting and get some good old flame wars going on here again :))
Sep 17, 2018, 12:5409/17/18
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Hot_Nickelz said:


Oracle said:


 I hate this Nickel banana with passion. 

Name and coords of your toon on server 2? Or just league that happens to allow you to play with them.


Thanks.

I did apply with BR when Ted was around, But he didn't response in time. So I went to Gem since I kind started there. Not that I play much. I haven't done much in these game since last year.

But I am proud that I haven't spend a cent on sever 2, and managed to get SOO far. Not that it matters, I never do anything there. But when I have time, and if Plarium does show sign of improvement I will play seriously. Maybe even spend some $ or so, this time on MY castle. 

But alas Plarium will never improve. 

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nix said:

he's gonna send his pike....