Capture the Flag Tournament

111 Replies
Sir_bit_yakin
16 April, 2017, 5:46 PM UTC

sorry for the late response to your post Jez, noo not at all, you have/had nothing to apologize for at all

I only mentioned it to demonstrate how this COULD be a FUN tourny for everyone.

you said we didn't defend,  and you are correct,  but we didn't defend cause our def would have just got smashed by uber leagues

we got hit by a player this time around who sent 10K dragons,  and that just ONE of the types of troops sent he also sent wyrven chimera, necro, warlock,  etc etc etc  ALL in multiples of 1000


but if those high level leagues couldn't hit us then we might try to defend, cause the attacks would be more on OUR lvl


and BTW they  need to FIX the protection thing   SEVERAL times this time around we got hit MULTIPLE times when we should have had protection


when I say multiple times I mean  3 successful attacks in under 10 minutes, what happened to our 1 hr protection?

and its not because we attacked and broke our protection cause we GOT attacked and went to try to attack back but THIER protection was still in place


so either we got screwed on OUR protection, or we got screwed because others protections remained intact when it should have dropped


and speaking of protections, can't even COUNT the number of times I click to attack/spy and after I go threw the whole process  select attack, select troops, send ONLY to get the message they are under protection...

look 5 min later still shows them as NO PROTECTION, try again, SAME MESSAGE 


I got a suggestion that would benefit EVERYONE, but surely it will be ignored


suppose you put in place a system where when a top league hits another top league who is holding flags to low tier for them to take, the flags they aren't allowed to take are transferred back to their original owners, and the attacker  gets a token for an extra buff for every 20 flags they liberate


this does TWO THINGS,   it gives the BIG leagues a reason to attack other big leagues to liberate those flags and gain some extra buffs, the other side of the coin it discourages the bullies from taking dozens of lower level flag an making themselves targets for other big leagues


its a WIN WIN, big leagues get a chance to  get some extra buffs,  smaller leagues get some flags back in their tiers to work with

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brunsonthomas
16 April, 2017, 5:53 PM UTC

Sir_bit_yakin said:


sorry for the late response to your post Jez, noo not at all, you have/had nothing to apologize for at all

I only mentioned it to demonstrate how this COULD be a FUN tourny for everyone.

you said we didn't defend,  and you are correct,  but we didn't defend cause our def would have just got smashed by uber leagues

we got hit by a player this time around who sent 10K dragons,  and that just ONE of the types of troops sent he also sent wyrven chimera, necro, warlock,  etc etc etc  ALL in multiples of 1000


but if those high level leagues couldn't hit us then we might try to defend, cause the attacks would be more on OUR lvl


and BTW they  need to FIX the protection thing   SEVERAL times this time around we got hit MULTIPLE times when we should have had protection


when I say multiple times I mean  3 successful attacks in under 10 minutes, what happened to our 1 hr protection?

and its not because we attacked and broke our protection cause we GOT attacked and went to try to attack back but THIER protection was still in place


so either we got screwed on OUR protection, or we got screwed because others protections remained intact when it should have dropped

I got a suggestion that would benefit EVERYONE, but surely it will be ignored


suppose you put in place a system where when a top league hits another top league who is holding flags to low tier for them to take, the flags they aren't allowed to take are transferred back to their original owners, and the attacker  gets a token for an extra buff for every 20 flags they liberate


this does TWO THINGS,   it gives the BIG leagues a reason to attack other big leagues to liberate those flags and gain some extra buffs, the other side of the coin it discourages the bullies from taking dozens of lower level flag an making themselves targets for other big leagues


its a WIN WIN, big leagues get a chance to  get some extra buffs,  smaller leagues get some flags back in their tiers to work with

You have a reasonable idea. Why not add it to Suggestions and see if they could incorporate any part of it. https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/suggestions/35979_your-suggestions---2-2/?post=271792

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Jezebel
16 April, 2017, 7:01 PM UTC

Sir_bit_yakin said:


sorry for the late response to your post Jez, noo not at all, you have/had nothing to apologize for at all

I only mentioned it to demonstrate how this COULD be a FUN tourny for everyone.

you said we didn't defend,  and you are correct,  but we didn't defend cause our def would have just got smashed by uber leagues

we got hit by a player this time around who sent 10K dragons,  and that just ONE of the types of troops sent he also sent wyrven chimera, necro, warlock,  etc etc etc  ALL in multiples of 1000


but if those high level leagues couldn't hit us then we might try to defend, cause the attacks would be more on OUR lvl


and BTW they  need to FIX the protection thing   SEVERAL times this time around we got hit MULTIPLE times when we should have had protection


when I say multiple times I mean  3 successful attacks in under 10 minutes, what happened to our 1 hr protection?

and its not because we attacked and broke our protection cause we GOT attacked and went to try to attack back but THIER protection was still in place


so either we got screwed on OUR protection, or we got screwed because others protections remained intact when it should have dropped


and speaking of protections, can't even COUNT the number of times I click to attack/spy and after I go threw the whole process  select attack, select troops, send ONLY to get the message they are under protection...

look 5 min later still shows them as NO PROTECTION, try again, SAME MESSAGE 


I got a suggestion that would benefit EVERYONE, but surely it will be ignored


suppose you put in place a system where when a top league hits another top league who is holding flags to low tier for them to take, the flags they aren't allowed to take are transferred back to their original owners, and the attacker  gets a token for an extra buff for every 20 flags they liberate


this does TWO THINGS,   it gives the BIG leagues a reason to attack other big leagues to liberate those flags and gain some extra buffs, the other side of the coin it discourages the bullies from taking dozens of lower level flag an making themselves targets for other big leagues


its a WIN WIN, big leagues get a chance to  get some extra buffs,  smaller leagues get some flags back in their tiers to work with

that is an excellent suggestion I would put that in the suggestions thread

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Sir_bit_yakin
17 April, 2017, 2:10 AM UTC

I would but we all know nothing will happen


the simplest answer is what I first suggested,  just NO attacking outside your tier


solves ALL the problems, simple, and the mechanism is already in place,  just a matter of changing some values in the program


but its not going to happen

I've made a vow to myself,  I really enjoy the flag tourney, so I am going to play, but I WILL NOT be buying any jem packs, and ALSO until I can recover back to where I started at the beginning of the tourney I WILL NOT spend a single dime

if I lose BIG and they run this every 3 months or so they may NEVER see another  dime from me again

they see fit to PUNISH us smaller leagues, then I see NO reason to give them anything for it


last time I looked at the standings  two tier 4 leagues were holding 125 tier two flags...

we hit one of them and the fireballs started raining,  one guy said if we hit em again he'd fireball EVERY MEMBER of our league

they take OUR flags then get MAD when we are FORCED to try to take them back


its almost as if plarium is saying hey tier 2 people  you aren't really allowed to participate, we just needed someone for the big leagues to pound on so we gave you flags

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Erik Bloodaxe
17 April, 2017, 2:59 PM UTC

Sir_bit_yakin said:


I would but we all know nothing will happen


the simplest answer is what I first suggested,  just NO attacking outside your tier


solves ALL the problems, simple, and the mechanism is already in place,  just a matter of changing some values in the program


but its not going to happen

I've made a vow to myself,  I really enjoy the flag tourney, so I am going to play, but I WILL NOT be buying any jem packs, and ALSO until I can recover back to where I started at the beginning of the tourney I WILL NOT spend a single dime

if I lose BIG and they run this every 3 months or so they may NEVER see another  dime from me again

they see fit to PUNISH us smaller leagues, then I see NO reason to give them anything for it


last time I looked at the standings  two tier 4 leagues were holding 125 tier two flags...

we hit one of them and the fireballs started raining,  one guy said if we hit em again he'd fireball EVERY MEMBER of our league

they take OUR flags then get MAD when we are FORCED to try to take them back


its almost as if plarium is saying hey tier 2 people  you aren't really allowed to participate, we just needed someone for the big leagues to pound on so we gave you flags

Your attitude to these events seems self-destructive, but it also destroys your league mates too.

Ignore this stupid event and keep your fortress at level 8 with ZERO defense

Do not attack other forts, you will never be rewarded for your losses. It amazes me when idiots make attacks like this against strongly defended fortresses. He would get better rewards attacking battlegrounds.

http://prnt.sc/exgvgy


They lose 100% with no chance of accomplishing anything and no chance of any tournament rewards, so why do they do it? I have seen many similar attacks during Beacon Massacres

Lemmings?

Plarium need to give guaranteed rewards for the top ten in each tier, but it is their intention to destroy rewards for every tier in every tournament type

If these tournaments were half as popular as plarium pretends then they  would have been rolled out across all plarium games - they are only targeted at the big spenders like stormfall
Aimed at noobs with big credit cards because they do not require any skill


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Lyric
17 April, 2017, 6:55 PM UTC
Erik Bloodaxe said:

Sir_bit_yakin said:


I would but we all know nothing will happen


the simplest answer is what I first suggested,  just NO attacking outside your tier


solves ALL the problems, simple, and the mechanism is already in place,  just a matter of changing some values in the program


but its not going to happen

I've made a vow to myself,  I really enjoy the flag tourney, so I am going to play, but I WILL NOT be buying any jem packs, and ALSO until I can recover back to where I started at the beginning of the tourney I WILL NOT spend a single dime

if I lose BIG and they run this every 3 months or so they may NEVER see another  dime from me again

they see fit to PUNISH us smaller leagues, then I see NO reason to give them anything for it


last time I looked at the standings  two tier 4 leagues were holding 125 tier two flags...

we hit one of them and the fireballs started raining,  one guy said if we hit em again he'd fireball EVERY MEMBER of our league

they take OUR flags then get MAD when we are FORCED to try to take them back


its almost as if plarium is saying hey tier 2 people  you aren't really allowed to participate, we just needed someone for the big leagues to pound on so we gave you flags

Your attitude to these events seems self-destructive, but it also destroys your league mates too.

Ignore this stupid event and keep your fortress at level 8 with ZERO defense

Do not attack other forts, you will never be rewarded for your losses. It amazes me when idiots make attacks like this against strongly defended fortresses. He would get better rewards attacking battlegrounds.

http://prnt.sc/exgvgy


They lose 100% with no chance of accomplishing anything and no chance of any tournament rewards, so why do they do it? I have seen many similar attacks during Beacon Massacres

Lemmings?

Plarium need to give guaranteed rewards for the top ten in each tier, but it is their intention to destroy rewards for every tier in every tournament type

If these tournaments were half as popular as plarium pretends then they  would have been rolled out across all plarium games - they are only targeted at the big spenders like stormfall
Aimed at noobs with big credit cards because they do not require any skill


good advice if you don't want to play but if you do want to play the event then you need to defend your fortress to the point that a top league won't hit it or if they do they lose big - you can win at fortress events if played properly but you are right too many players take big risks on battles they won't win - the screen shot is a small hit they lost everything but it won't kill them - all plarium needs to do is prevent flags from being taken from leagues that are outside their tier but there are already so many bugs in the game from recent upgrades asking to fix a broken tournament would probably make the game unplayable lol
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Snowgoon
17 April, 2017, 7:45 PM UTC

Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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Knightmare
17 April, 2017, 9:38 PM UTC

Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

What I find more interesting is this :








Top leagues can take your flag... but you can not debuff them, only people within your own sub-sub group.




If any league can take another leagues flag, then that league should able to be debuffed by that league.

If a top tier team can captures our flag. Then by all means I should be able to debuff them if the opportunity arises...

Nug Life !
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brunsonthomas
18 April, 2017, 7:25 PM UTC

GoGo Knightmare said:


Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

What I find more interesting is this :








Top leagues can take your flag... but you can not debuff them, only people within your own sub-sub group.




If any league can take another leagues flag, then that league should able to be debuffed by that league.

If a top tier team can captures our flag. Then by all means I should be able to debuff them if the opportunity arises...

I know this sounds repetitive but if you have ideas how to improve the game or any feature of it I would recommend you submit a Suggestion. 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/suggestions/35979_your-suggestions---2-2/?post=271792

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Mad Ted
19 April, 2017, 2:07 AM UTC
Snowgoon said:

Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
19 April, 2017, 11:19 AM UTC

scarlet said:


Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.

We did not change that. If you're experiencing any issues with Flag tabs, please inform our Support Team and they will test it: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Plarium Community Manager. Please note that I will be unable to respond to your private messages, review your tickets, or check your account information. All technical issues should be directed to our Support Team at plrm.me/Support_Plarium
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Snowgoon
20 April, 2017, 11:41 PM UTC

scarlet said:


Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.

The flag tourney tab is not visible to me - contrary to what they say it has definitely been hidden from most players
I do have Diplomacy Privileges so should be able to see everything

http://prntscr.com/eyx8ri


Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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Drogar61
21 April, 2017, 10:44 AM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

scarlet said:


Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.

We did not change that. If you're experiencing any issues with Flag tabs, please inform our Support Team and they will test it: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

You changed that. Obviously you don't know for that change. I will not be surprised if developers don't know too.
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Alina Bright
Community Manager
21 April, 2017, 2:00 PM UTC

Drogar61 said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


scarlet said:


Snowgoon said:


Why did plarium hide the buffs and debuffs applied to other leagues?

More secrets?

Can no longer click this - http://prntscr.com/exko3h

  Snow, i thought the same, but it seems they just moved it. If you enter your embassy, next to stats tab there was a flag tourney tab that displayed what leagues had what buffs and debuffs.

We did not change that. If you're experiencing any issues with Flag tabs, please inform our Support Team and they will test it: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

You changed that. Obviously you don't know for that change. I will not be surprised if developers don't know too.

Lord Drogar61, please report this issue to our Support team so we can check this. Thank you. 

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Erik Bloodaxe
21 April, 2017, 5:54 PM UTC

I am a lowly neophyte so should never be allowed to see anything, but have full access to the new tab

Somebody has messed up


http://prntscr.com/ez84y6

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brunsonthomas
21 April, 2017, 5:58 PM UTC
Erik Bloodaxe said:

I am a lowly neophyte so should never be allowed to see anything, but have full access to the new tab

Somebody has messed up


http://prntscr.com/ez84y6

Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.
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Jezebel
21 April, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

Erik Bloodaxe said:

I am a lowly neophyte so should never be allowed to see anything, but have full access to the new tab

Somebody has messed up


http://prntscr.com/ez84y6

Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.
lol I am pretty sure he was joking regarding the neo thing and someone has messed up (he is saying he can see the buffs/debuffs)  but I cant see any buffs applied to other leagues and I always could before - so yes something has changed - Plarium will let the entire server see our troop stats from the hero and experience upgrades but they hide the buffs and debuffs from everyone
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Snowgoon
21 April, 2017, 11:46 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

The 'rewards' from the flag tournament are temporary and should not dictate which units to build.
anyway, low level players don't have a lot of choice .... either archers or pikes?
Your argument is based on false logic, and does not explain why League Marshals in other leagues can see nothing


He seems to be adding to the debate that some players (even genuine neophytes) can see which buffs and debuffs have been applied in all other leagues, even tho high level officers in most leagues can see nothing.
He has FULL ACCESS to the new tab and can see every buff/debuff on EVERY league.


There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested


Seems to me that it depends if any buffs/debuffs are active on our own leagues - if not then we see nothing on any league

Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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brunsonthomas
22 April, 2017, 5:09 PM UTC

Snowgoon said:


brunsonthomas said:


Why? You are in the league and should know what buffs and debuffs are applied to your league so you can be informed of the best troops to build for your army. If you do not understand ask any Captain in your league. I am sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

The 'rewards' from the flag tournament are temporary and should not dictate which units to build.
anyway, low level players don't have a lot of choice .... either archers or pikes?
Your argument is based on false logic, and does not explain why League Marshals in other leagues can see nothing


He seems to be adding to the debate that some players (even genuine neophytes) can see which buffs and debuffs have been applied in all other leagues, even tho high level officers in most leagues can see nothing.
He has FULL ACCESS to the new tab and can see every buff/debuff on EVERY league.


There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested


Seems to me that it depends if any buffs/debuffs are active on our own leagues - if not then we see nothing on any league

If you wish to see changes to the Flag Tournament please send your ideas to Suggestions. There is a better chance they will be noticed there. https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/suggestions/35979_your-suggestions---2-2/?post=271792

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Snowgoon
22 April, 2017, 7:21 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


Snowgoon said:


There was no reason to add this new tab, and it was badly designed and untested

If you wish to see changes to the Flag Tournament please send your ideas to Suggestions. There is a better chance they will be noticed there. 

We all made dozens of suggestions when they added this 'event' and all were ignored

Why would we wish to keep banging our heads against this particular brick wall?

Sweeping it under the carpet will not make the problems go away
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way - Pink Floyd - http://prnt.sc/dv923b
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