EXTREME COINERS ARE CHEATS.

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lsolway74
15 November, 2016, 10:22 PM UTC
Well congratulations Plarium, you have done more to damage your own reputation than anyone could believe possible, not to mention push away many players, a number of who have been playing for some considerable time. It is clear that you prefer to favour the 'extreme' coiners who buy big in order to boost themselves to the top of the leadership board without putting in the hard work of building their city, watching it develop, making many new friends along the way and enjoying the teamwork and camaraderie that strangers rarely share. The whole game is weighed heavily in favour of such coiners as can be seen in the changes that have recently been implemented. I have witnessed extreme coiners bully genuine players over and over and over and so on, all of this allowed by Plarium as they don't want to scare Mr Moneybags away, the Mr Moneybags with no real life or friends as can be seen by his severe lack of social skills, a coward who craves power but can only get it by paying for it. He is a coward in real life who thinks he is tough but when it comes to the crunch he pees his pants and runs for the hills. This is the new breed of Consumer that Plarium want to be associated with. Well congratulations again. Remember that when your coiners get fed up with the game too, especially when there is no one left to bully and desert you too.
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
16 November, 2016, 2:02 PM UTC

Each and every player in Sparta: War of Empires can reach TOP positions. That, however, requires a lot of time, Resources, Units, and considerable effort. Alternatively, you can use a special Resource - Drachmas - to develop your City and increase military power to dominate the map. Everyone can get Drachmas for free simply playing the game actively, i.e. participating in Tournaments, capturing Emporia, completing quests and Achievements, etc.

Some players decide in favor of in-app purchases to save time. It allows them to progress a little faster. Sparta: War of Empires is free-to-play, and like any other game of this type it gives all players free access to all game features and an opportunity to accelerate their progress with in-app purchases. It is not unfair that players taking this route, thus supporting the development of the game, enjoy certain advantages. Again, all these advantages may be summarized in one word - time. It takes less time to advance, but does not change the core of what every player needs to do to develop their City and grow military power. Moreover, there is a number of in-game limits so no one player can dominate an entire server. Therefore, when we develop a new feature, we make sure it will not negatively affect the game balance.

Yet another thing to consider is the social aspect of our games, which is extremely important. We want our players to unite in Coalitions and build Alliances to become stronger. We understand that it is hard to compete against stronger players -- it has always been, in any game -- and that is why we pay so much attention to various Coalition activities and give players an opportunity to unite against a stronger enemy. If you have any suggestions as to how this part of the game can be improved, we will be happy to hear from you.


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Gorgo
16 November, 2016, 8:16 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Each and every player in Sparta: War of Empires can reach TOP positions. That, however, requires a lot of time, Resources, Units, and considerable effort. Alternatively, you can use a special Resource - Drachmas - to develop your City and increase military power to dominate the map. Everyone can get Drachmas for free simply playing the game actively, i.e. participating in Tournaments, capturing Emporia, completing quests and Achievements, etc.

Some players decide in favor of in-app purchases to save time. It allows them to progress a little faster. Sparta: War of Empires is free-to-play, and like any other game of this type it gives all players free access to all game features and an opportunity to accelerate their progress with in-app purchases. It is not unfair that players taking this route, thus supporting the development of the game, enjoy certain advantages. Again, all these advantages may be summarized in one word - time. It takes less time to advance, but does not change the core of what every player needs to do to develop their City and grow military power. Moreover, there is a number of in-game limits so no one player can dominate an entire server. Therefore, when we develop a new feature, we make sure it will not negatively affect the game balance.

Yet another thing to consider is the social aspect of our games, which is extremely important. We want our players to unite in Coalitions and build Alliances to become stronger. We understand that it is hard to compete against stronger players -- it has always been, in any game -- and that is why we pay so much attention to various Coalition activities and give players an opportunity to unite against a stronger enemy. If you have any suggestions as to how this part of the game can be improved, we will be happy to hear from you.


well alyona not sure what is top for you but top off and top def are coiners only...and not talking small coiners...but like few k $ per month coiners...even if you build you can kill your troops once..but coiner can do that until he ran out of money...so nice lies alyona appreciated :)
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Drusilla
26 November, 2016, 5:02 PM UTC
Personally I see no satisfaction when you have to "buy" units to get ahead. It seem like such a hallow victory to me at least IMO.
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Gman
28 November, 2016, 11:10 AM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Each and every player in Sparta: War of Empires can reach TOP positions. That, however, requires a lot of time, Resources, Units, and considerable effort. Alternatively, you can use a special Resource - Drachmas - to develop your City and increase military power to dominate the map. Everyone can get Drachmas for free simply playing the game actively, i.e. participating in Tournaments, capturing Emporia, completing quests and Achievements, etc.

Some players decide in favor of in-app purchases to save time. It allows them to progress a little faster. Sparta: War of Empires is free-to-play, and like any other game of this type it gives all players free access to all game features and an opportunity to accelerate their progress with in-app purchases. It is not unfair that players taking this route, thus supporting the development of the game, enjoy certain advantages. Again, all these advantages may be summarized in one word - time. It takes less time to advance, but does not change the core of what every player needs to do to develop their City and grow military power. Moreover, there is a number of in-game limits so no one player can dominate an entire server. Therefore, when we develop a new feature, we make sure it will not negatively affect the game balance.

Yet another thing to consider is the social aspect of our games, which is extremely important. We want our players to unite in Coalitions and build Alliances to become stronger. We understand that it is hard to compete against stronger players -- it has always been, in any game -- and that is why we pay so much attention to various Coalition activities and give players an opportunity to unite against a stronger enemy. If you have any suggestions as to how this part of the game can be improved, we will be happy to hear from you.


haha
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Xena
Moderator
28 November, 2016, 2:13 PM UTC

There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

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lsolway74
29 November, 2016, 1:15 AM UTC
Xena said:

There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

How do you know that these 'many' players are not coiners? Do you ask them? How many genuine players have made it to the top of the leader board? Plarium are not only encouraging cheating as can be seen from their response above, they are blatantly rewarding it, not to mention feeding gaming addiction. Plarium are greedy. They take money yet there is nothing to be seen for it. Glitches are still there months on, issues are not resolved etc. Look around you at all the dead cities. Even those that were at higher levels have quit for those reasons listed. Its time Plarium took some pride in itself and made this game fair for all. Server 1 for coiners and server 2 for real gamers.
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Lockdown51
29 November, 2016, 12:34 PM UTC

lsolway74 said:


Xena said:


There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

How do you know that these 'many' players are not coiners? Do you ask them? How many genuine players have made it to the top of the leader board? Plarium are not only encouraging cheating as can be seen from their response above, they are blatantly rewarding it, not to mention feeding gaming addiction. Plarium are greedy. They take money yet there is nothing to be seen for it. Glitches are still there months on, issues are not resolved etc. Look around you at all the dead cities. Even those that were at higher levels have quit for those reasons listed. Its time Plarium took some pride in itself and made this game fair for all. Server 1 for coiners and server 2 for real gamers.

Real gamers? By your definition, real gamers are poor apparently. Or at least never spend money on any games ever. By that logic we can extend it to real gamers don't spend any money on anything game related. Like computers. A real gamer wouldn't use a computer to play a game. A real gamer would raise an army and conquer a city, declaring themselves a god-king. Real gamers don't play games, they brutally subjugate lesser peoples.

People can spend their money on what they want.
 
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Xena
Moderator
29 November, 2016, 8:12 PM UTC

lsolway74 said:

How do you know that these 'many' players are not coiners? Do you ask them? How many genuine players have made it to the top of the leader board? Plarium are not only encouraging cheating as can be seen from their response above, they are blatantly rewarding it, not to mention feeding gaming addiction. Plarium are greedy. They take money yet there is nothing to be seen for it. Glitches are still there months on, issues are not resolved etc. Look around you at all the dead cities. Even those that were at higher levels have quit for those reasons listed. Its time Plarium took some pride in itself and made this game fair for all. Server 1 for coiners and server 2 for real gamers.
Well if you have some experience in those games you can actually stand out whether someone is a coiner or not with a high percentage of success. For many players it's all about the fun, the experience, the people they get to know and cooperate with and not about the top of the leader board. I will only say that we all are adults and we are responsible for our own choices. The devs are working diligently to fix the bugs and the glitches and whatever is causing issues in the game. Everyone needs to be patient. Regarding the dead cities there are various reasons someone may have stopped playing the game. Many just don't have time anymore due to real life issues. You mentioned dead cities but check how many active ones are still there. And as I can see there are a lot.


Warrior Princess
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RIX
30 November, 2016, 1:16 AM UTC

Xena said:


There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

Play smart meaning don't use your troops at all because one wrong move and your all done playing Sparta LOLOLOL



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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
30 November, 2016, 11:42 AM UTC
RIX said:


Play smart meaning don't use your troops at all because one wrong move and your all done playing Sparta LOLOLOL



Why so pessimistic, Rix? 
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Xena
Moderator
30 November, 2016, 3:40 PM UTC
I didn't say not use your army at all. But no matter how strong you are you always need to be cautious. And play smart as I mentioned before. You don't have to use your whole army to attack someone for example cause if there is a trap there it's reasonable to lose your whole army. That's why it is imporant to follow some crucial steps. For example never attack somewhere if you don't have a report of what's in there first. And even if you decide to go blind use inferior units (such as light and heavy infantry). That way you will protect your superior ones. 
Warrior Princess
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RIX
30 November, 2016, 11:08 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


RIX said:



Play smart meaning don't use your troops at all because one wrong move and your all done playing Sparta LOLOLOL



Why so pessimistic, Rix? 

Because you are implementing tactics in this game that cause two issues:


1) Too time consuming

2) Forcing peoples hands at losing troops

Not everyone wants to participate in forced PVP events like capital flag and pan massacre.


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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
1 December, 2016, 10:13 AM UTC
RIX said:

1) Too time consuming

2) Forcing peoples hands at losing troops

Not everyone wants to participate in forced PVP events like capital flag and pan massacre.

I understand your point :) However, that's one of the purposes of that Tournaments - to get players involved.  So no longer sitting in the Acropolis, but fighting with Rivals for something new - Buffs (Capture the Flag), opportunity to get a higher Rank (Massacre).
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Greed oft o'er reaches itself
1 December, 2016, 4:00 PM UTC

The reason people sit in acropolis more often is because rewards are so poor, and they can't build army fast enough to keep up with avalanche of tournaments. In order to actually build decent army without breaking the bank means you cannot chuck big forces around like a lunatic every week. Plus, the same old food regurgitated dulls your appetite, whether it's pans, caps, cities or emporium it's still principle of raids and sieges. Plarium's answer to this is not to increase rewards as encouragement, but to have forced participation tournaments instead.

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morteeee
Moderator
1 December, 2016, 9:42 PM UTC

lsolway74 said:


Xena said:


There are many players who don't coin yet they have strong army. You need to play smart in order to do that and be cautious of course. You need to build troops 24/7 if you want to have a strong army. But in order to be able to build 24/7 you need to raid every day, to get resources and build troops  continuously. You need to be patient so you can level up the buildings and the agreements while you build troops at the same time. That requires resources. Without raiding you can't have resources to do all those things. Once you level up the agreements and the buildings you will be building troops 24/7 and believe me you can build quite some offense or defense in a month let's say.

How do you know that these 'many' players are not coiners? Do you ask them? How many genuine players have made it to the top of the leader board? 

I know several on the Facebook Server 1 who are regularly top of the weekly raiding leader board and top of the weekly siege board, yes they have to put the time in but isn't that true of everything in life? You want to be good at something you have to put the time in.


I also know several who have been top of the PP leaderboard without spending stupid amounts of money, it is possible if you have the time 


one friend of mine was top of the weekly raids board week after week after week without spending a penny 
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tsunwu85rsa
2 December, 2016, 6:47 AM UTC
Why are they cheats? Don't call them cheats because you are poor, seriously. That is nobody else' problem except your own.
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el_bardera
4 December, 2016, 8:08 PM UTC
Real gamers compete in EQUAL conditions. Purchasing advantages with money is just money doping.
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el_bardera
4 December, 2016, 8:14 PM UTC

Didn't you receive this message?   I am sure that Plarium is happy with this. Good aprentices.


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Greed oft o'er reaches itself
4 December, 2016, 9:01 PM UTC
el_bardera said:

Real gamers compete in EQUAL conditions. Purchasing advantages with money is just money doping.
There's never gonna be equal conditions when some players are running around with like 20 active alt accounts.   They maybe never spent a dollar on the game, but have a combined army to match a big spender. 
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