## Estimating troop losses and return in points

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24 May, 2017, 11:09 PM UTC

Am I likely to lose more of one particular type of unit e.g. will I lose more of my weaker troops than my stronger troops in a particular battle?

Normally when troops fall in battle the same proportion is lost throughout each group of troops regardless of strength, so whether you had ten cavalry and 500 light infantry or vice versa there would be 50 times more losses in the group that had 500 units. If you correctly estimated that you would lose a quarter of all your troops in a particular Persian position the same proportion would apply to each group whether you had 10, 100 or 1000 of one type of troop e.g. if you had 10 thureos and you lost a quarter you would lose 3 (2.5 rounded up to 3), if you had 100 peltasts you would lose 25 and if you had 1000 javelineers you would lose 250. Veterans count as separate groups so if you had 10 thorakites and 10 veteran thorakites you would lose 3 of each vet and non-vet group so lose a total of 6 thorakites rather than a quarter of the total 20 thorakites which would have been 5 if they were counted as one group. If a percentage of troops lost result in a figure that includes less than 0.5 soldiers then it is rounded down e.g. if you lost a third of ten soldiers you would lose 3 as one third is 3.33, less than 3.5, otherwise if it were 3.5. or 3.6 it would be rounded up to 4. The losses are in proportion whether they are huge or tiny. Occasionally as a result of several being rounded down or up an extra soldier is sometimes added or deducted from the total losses. Troops lost are in proportion whether they fall in Persian positions, cities, emporia, capitals or pantheons.

How many points should I expect to win for each fallen unit?

The return in points is much the same in any PVP whether troops fall in cities, pantheons, capitals or emporia. (The return in points tends to be much less with Persian positions and points won in the small daily coalition missions though this can be made up for if there is a simultaneous PVP tournament where one can earn more points or sometimes the low return in points in Persian missions can be compensated for if you win lots of troops, resources or armour in a particular position.) How many points should you expect? In my experience, by the time you are well past level 10 in your treaties you should be winning on average (for defence troops in PVP) 10 points per phalanx, 15 points per horse, 4 points per heavy soldier and 1 point per 3 light infantry units. By the time you are over level 15 you tend to earn slightly more points unless your opponent has much stronger or numerous troops. By the time you are over level 20 of your treaties you can expect to win up to 2.5 times more points than you were winning when your treaties were under level 15. Occasionally you may win only half what you expected because your opponent is the same level or higher in his/her treaties and has activated all boosts and relevant elixirs and dominion. Political attacks rob a player of about 80% of their normal points although it costs the user of a political attack in drachmas. Fortunately political attacks can't be used on pantheons or I expect we would see a huge exodus from the game.

What if I receive nothing like those points yet I am an advanced player?