Back to PP - still believe it is not rigged?

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kjm
24 May, 2017, 12:56 PM UTC
OK . I see. Yes that is a difficult situation.  Some time ago I sent some troops to the wrong PP. It was just a low level PP. But my mistake got some shocking results too.
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shtalmic
24 May, 2017, 10:15 PM UTC

Drag-Theseus said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


knigochey said:


morteeee said:


because its only a level 58 position 
It is not good even for PP 58
Probably :) 
Well he is more than happy to get that reward
His wife must be a very happy woman - as it is so easy to sell him anything :)
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shtalmic
24 May, 2017, 10:22 PM UTC

kjm said:


OK . I see. Yes that is a difficult situation.  Some time ago I sent some troops to the wrong PP. It was just a low level PP. But my mistake got some shocking results too.

Come on, to be robbed by Plarium is "shocking"? i would be shocked if they helped or just were fair 
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knigochey
25 May, 2017, 4:30 AM UTC

Here are examples of decent payout 

http://prntscr.com/fbt6z8


http://prntscr.com/fbt9wm

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
25 May, 2017, 7:35 AM UTC
knigochey said:

Here are examples of decent payout 

http://prntscr.com/fbt6z8


http://prntscr.com/fbt9wm

Not bad! What were the PP levels?
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knigochey
25 May, 2017, 10:56 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


knigochey said:


Here are examples of decent payout 

http://prntscr.com/fbt6z8


http://prntscr.com/fbt9wm

Not bad! What were the PP levels?

147 and 142.

But that is once 4-6 months. Usually, Plarium is doing this: 


http://prntscr.com/fc5dji

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Mick13000
25 May, 2017, 11:19 PM UTC

knigochey said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


knigochey said:


Here are examples of decent payout 

http://prntscr.com/fbt6z8


http://prntscr.com/fbt9wm

Not bad! What were the PP levels?

147 and 142.

But that is once 4-6 months. Usually, Plarium is doing this: 


http://prntscr.com/fc5dji




34K of Thorakites...16K of Promachos???

We now interrupt this thread so that Mick can go and cry! I wish I knew how to play PP's and get those results.


Well done knigochey...Well Done!!

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knigochey
26 May, 2017, 12:26 AM UTC

Mick13000 said:


knigochey said:


Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


knigochey said:


Here are examples of decent payout 

http://prntscr.com/fbt6z8


http://prntscr.com/fbt9wm

Not bad! What were the PP levels?

147 and 142.

But that is once 4-6 months. Usually, Plarium is doing this: 


http://prntscr.com/fc5dji




34K of Thorakites...16K of Promachos???

We now interrupt this thread so that Mick can go and cry! I wish I knew how to play PP's and get those results.


Well done knigochey...Well Done!!

Mick, actually it was more than 34.5 k and 16.7k, because next hit of another PP with very small amount of Persian leftovers gave me several thousand  more Promachos in addition to Trojans and Thureos in addition to Promos respectively. 

Those payouts happened to me at my game and to my friend I am helping. Most important: be very skeptical about anything you hear.  Even Alyona admits to not know many if not most answers. And even if she knew, Plarium can change anything in a minute. You are not just opposing Persians, Plarium is your most unfriendly opponent, throwing at you cheating, omissions, constant rules/settings change, favoritism, etc. 

Just imagine you came to a city, where traffic seems impossibly chaotic and unpredictable. Your very survival depends of understanding those weird rules that probably are designed in order to help local Funeral House to run very lucrative business. And they get altered every time the business wants. You are trying to get those rules - but the City Spokesperson Alyona tells you: traffic laws are city secret. Die safely, Mick :)

And as I said earlier, they are treating different players differently. They stopped replacing large lvl PP for me, which is a huge impediment, and they stopped giving small PP to my friend :)

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
26 May, 2017, 7:13 AM UTC
knigochey said:



147 and 142.

But that is once 4-6 months. Usually, Plarium is doing this: 


http://prntscr.com/fc5dji

That's because you have a guaranteed reward on each PP. :)
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knigochey
27 May, 2017, 3:55 AM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

knigochey said:



147 and 142.

But that is once 4-6 months. Usually, Plarium is doing this: 


http://prntscr.com/fc5dji

That's because you have a guaranteed reward on each PP. :)
These are not "rewards", these are tiny pieces of what I "invested". 
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Zsolt Antal
27 May, 2017, 9:57 AM UTC

i got   a month or so ago .. an similar payout at an level 53 positions ..after i lost   a lot of troups and  revive some with drachmas  ...was my  only big payout ..till now 



Anyhow .. you will not win  with those persians  ... free army ..only lose :) ...You can only upgrade  youre troups ..from light  ...>  cavalary  ,  and have some rewards from tournaments ...and from time to time glitches wich make youre  day miserable or week ..like they made mine  
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Mullenz
28 May, 2017, 7:15 AM UTC
Zsolt Antal said:

i got   a month or so ago .. an similar payout at an level 53 positions ..after i lost   a lot of troups and  revive some with drachmas  ...was my  only big payout ..till now 



Anyhow .. you will not win  with those persians  ... free army ..only lose :) ...You can only upgrade  youre troups ..from light  ...>  cavalary  ,  and have some rewards from tournaments ...and from time to time glitches wich make youre  day miserable or week ..like they made mine  
Those "glitches" are not glitches, at least in most cases. They are intended - so you spend money
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
29 May, 2017, 9:22 AM UTC
knigochey said:


These are not "rewards", these are tiny pieces of what I "invested". 
Sure, you can call them mini-rewards or tiny pieces. The fact is that they can be received on (almost) any PP. And the fact that you received them doesn't mean that you won't receive a bigger reward. You will, just not this time. They are not a substitution for big rewards, they are a substitution for zero rewards.
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knigochey
29 May, 2017, 8:34 PM UTC

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


knigochey said:



These are not "rewards", these are tiny pieces of what I "invested". 
Sure, you can call them mini-rewards or tiny pieces. The fact is that they can be received on (almost) any PP. And the fact that you received them doesn't mean that you won't receive a bigger reward. You will, just not this time. They are not a substitution for big rewards, they are a substitution for zero rewards.

These talking points remind me what failing financial institutions force their employees to tell the customers: you want your money back? Here is a "reward" 5% of your money. That "doesn't mean that you won't receive a bigger reward. You will, just not this time." 

Was there already, Alyona.   
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
30 May, 2017, 7:52 AM UTC
knigochey said:


These talking points remind me what failing financial institutions force their employees to tell the customers: you want your money back? Here is a "reward" 5% of your money. That "doesn't mean that you won't receive a bigger reward. You will, just not this time." 

Was there already, Alyona.   
PPs are not a financial institution, and shouldn't be treated like they are. None of the official statements about PPs mentioned that you get something back from them. You receive a reward for doing PPs, just that.
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VodkaRedBull
30 May, 2017, 9:05 AM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

knigochey said:


These talking points remind me what failing financial institutions force their employees to tell the customers: you want your money back? Here is a "reward" 5% of your money. That "doesn't mean that you won't receive a bigger reward. You will, just not this time." 

Was there already, Alyona.   
PPs are not a financial institution, and shouldn't be treated like they are. None of the official statements about PPs mentioned that you get something back from them. You receive a reward for doing PPs, just that.
you guys are just scamming your own players in this goddam persian positions, JUST THAT
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Wy San Luis
30 May, 2017, 11:17 AM UTC

Zsolt Antal said:


Level 49    position  ...in wich i didn't sent the army  to it ..but don't know how happened my  game freezed ..and guys from support don't respond ..for two days :( ...lost   after that almost 40 k drachmas to revive ..and of course     didn't get all my army back ..after doing positions  not to say the drachmas lost :(  ...and a lot of time ... me one  intended to attack an level 43 offensive positions ...how  this could happen  :( 

Condolence

"Those who seek to die will live, and those who seek to live will die."
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Wy San Luis
30 May, 2017, 11:18 AM UTC
kjm said:

OK . I see. Yes that is a difficult situation.  Some time ago I sent some troops to the wrong PP. It was just a low level PP. But my mistake got some shocking results too.
Really? Maybe I should try to do that some time.
"Those who seek to die will live, and those who seek to live will die."
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knigochey
30 May, 2017, 8:38 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

knigochey said:


These talking points remind me what failing financial institutions force their employees to tell the customers: you want your money back? Here is a "reward" 5% of your money. That "doesn't mean that you won't receive a bigger reward. You will, just not this time." 

Was there already, Alyona.   
PPs are not a financial institution, and shouldn't be treated like they are. None of the official statements about PPs mentioned that you get something back from them. You receive a reward for doing PPs, just that.
"Official statement" means little to a court. If it establishes a criminal intent - that is enough. Their concept is: "what reasonable expectations the customer had?"  Reasonable expectation is that at least what was "invested" comes back, plus reward. Plarium has been intentionally using the word "reward", while  stealing the "assets" in various ways, including undisclosed fees. That is criminal intent. Advise them to consult American lawyers - that is where plarium is going to be hit from.
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Kakos
31 May, 2017, 2:14 AM UTC

knigochey said:


These are not "rewards", these are tiny pieces of what I "invested". 

Your rewards/investments returns are worth over 360m resources.

If these represent "tiny pieces" of what you have invested then is reasonablo to assume that you invested well over 1 billion.

If you are not a coiner is hard to imagine how is this possible..


Vae victis
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