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Jun 10, 2022, 23:3306/10/22
04/25/22
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Any worth getting to 60 ?

Also any semblance of team for any content (cb , specific dungeons , arena , etc) steaming up or should i still just go with my best geared champs ? Everything not in SS  is just food , including what you're seeing at the bottom rows . hearts are champs i want to keep forever , II are champs i want to keep not actually get to 60 , just not food :P

CB on brutal 

Dungeons on 13 

Keeps on 14-15

Campaign early nightmare , 3 starred everything before

DT normal 1-2 bosses , 1-2 secret rooms 


Not looking for optimal endgame team but few composition that would help push just a little further into each part of content all while making sure i use ressources on the proper champs !


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Thanks in advance for your input , not looking to mid game or endgame stuff , just push further since im overloading with food !

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dthorne04Moderator
Jun 10, 2022, 23:4406/10/22
Jun 10, 2022, 23:44(edited)
12/30/20
5381

Toragi to 60 for Clan Boss, and possibly Dragon. Don't recall if I've - or anyone else has - mentioned to you before but he's one of the very best killable Clan Boss champs in the game. 

Jun 10, 2022, 23:5006/10/22
04/25/22
63
dthorne04

Toragi to 60 for Clan Boss, and possibly Dragon. Don't recall if I've - or anyone else has - mentioned to you before but he's one of the very best killable Clan Boss champs in the game. 

i dont remember either but a reminder is always welcome , good info mentionned 2-3 times isnt a bad thing ;)

harleQuinnModerator
Jun 10, 2022, 23:5206/10/22
02/24/19
7259

Toragi is in fact one of only two I would 60 as well. Then I would look at Armiger for his amazing TM control and usefulness in Spider and Fire Knight especially.

Then I would work on ascending Lyssandra and those two. :)

Jun 11, 2022, 00:0006/11/22
Jun 11, 2022, 00:03(edited)
04/25/22
63

I was thinking along those lines too , armiger is booked and just waiting to be 60 without stealing ressources from another champ that would help more :P 

Has for everything else , could i consider anything not marked with a heart or II as food ?

Edit: or is there some worth keeping for the long run without leveling right away ?

Edit: beside the goat , im getting 4 of them for kinagashi fusion since helicath is out of reach

Jun 11, 2022, 00:2506/11/22
07/08/19
934
Lyryal

I was thinking along those lines too , armiger is booked and just waiting to be 60 without stealing ressources from another champ that would help more :P 

Has for everything else , could i consider anything not marked with a heart or II as food ?

Edit: or is there some worth keeping for the long run without leveling right away ?

Edit: beside the goat , im getting 4 of them for kinagashi fusion since helicath is out of reach

the rares and uncommons yes, but i would advise keeping all of the epics. even if you don't see a use for them now, they may get a rework in the future or become relevant as new content is added. they can also be used as faction guardians or fill out slots in your fw teams.

i'd also throw andryssia out as a suggestion for who to 60. she's definitely a more niche champion so she's not an absolute must build, but if you get toragi and armiger done and still find yourself in need of someone to 60, she's a decent option.

Jun 11, 2022, 00:5206/11/22
Jun 11, 2022, 00:53(edited)
06/25/20
6207

Warchief has value in a few places, though I don't know if I'd level him yet. Shatterbones is good for OG faction wars. Temilla can have value in CB as a DEF-up champ.

In fact, you actually have a decent CB team right now:

  • Anax (DEF Down + Weaken) - Turn off A2 (you'll get enough poisons from Toragi)
  • Toragi (Poison + Ally Protect) - Turn off A2
  • Temilla (DEF Up + Ally Protect)
  • Deliana (Leech) - Turn off A2 and A3
  • [Missing] (ATK Down) - Run Nazana for now, but replace her ASAP. Toragi's ATK down isn't consistent enough to rely on.
harleQuinnModerator
Jun 11, 2022, 01:0106/11/22
02/24/19
7259
Carpe_Piscis

the rares and uncommons yes, but i would advise keeping all of the epics. even if you don't see a use for them now, they may get a rework in the future or become relevant as new content is added. they can also be used as faction guardians or fill out slots in your fw teams.

i'd also throw andryssia out as a suggestion for who to 60. she's definitely a more niche champion so she's not an absolute must build, but if you get toragi and armiger done and still find yourself in need of someone to 60, she's a decent option.

I think Temila is the next option for her use in CB as your Inc Def and Ally Protect, but that's just me.

(And I see Krama now too lol)

Jun 11, 2022, 01:0606/11/22
04/25/22
63

want to share a little on the stats i should focus for them ? like speed accuracy requirement and then which stats to stack for each ? or if its safe to follow the 170+ speed and stage #x10 for accuracy then go for the stats affecting their skills ?

Jun 11, 2022, 01:1606/11/22
06/25/20
6207

For Nightmare you don't even need 170, really. The tune of 170-189 SPD is to make it so you can use the same team on NM and UNM. For just Nightmare, you can go much slower. Use https://deadwoodjedi.info/cb to tune it out. Around 150ish is the lower bound for NM.

In terms of other stats, you want around 140-170 ACC, and probably around 30K HP min on your champs. With both DEF up and double AP, you really won't need to worry about DEF at all on anyone, so just focus on getting them tuned in the right order, and then slowly work on your gear from there.

In terms of order - you'll probably want Temilla last, and Nazana second to last. You'l probably want Anax first. The other two don't really matter. You'll want to use Temilla's DEF up on turn 1 of each rotation, and her Ally Protect on turn 2. You'll want to use Nazana's Ally Protect on turn 1. 

Jun 11, 2022, 01:4806/11/22
07/08/19
934
harleQuinn

I think Temila is the next option for her use in CB as your Inc Def and Ally Protect, but that's just me.

(And I see Krama now too lol)

missed her when i went through op's collection. you're right, she's probably a better choice atm

harleQuinnModerator
Jun 11, 2022, 01:5206/11/22
02/24/19
7259
Lyryal

want to share a little on the stats i should focus for them ? like speed accuracy requirement and then which stats to stack for each ? or if its safe to follow the 170+ speed and stage #x10 for accuracy then go for the stats affecting their skills ?

Here are some good target stats to look for when trying to top chest a particular difficulty....

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Jun 11, 2022, 02:0306/11/22
06/25/20
6207

Just to clarify a bit on Quinn's post - the DEF target of 3000 is AFTER other effects. So, if you have DEF up for example, then you only need ~1900 DEF. And Ally Protect halves your damage taken, so you need even less - and you have *two* of those, so you need basically none at all.

It's not *quite* that simple, since it does matter when those buffs actually are active - but if you use the rotation I gave you, everyone will have at least one ally protect active for all three attacks.

Jun 11, 2022, 02:3006/11/22
04/25/22
63

So to make this short , 60 toragi , temali ,armiger , ascend lyssandra , set cb team with specific order like mentionned while farming their mastery and better gear ? That would be my current plan ? ^^

harleQuinnModerator
Jun 11, 2022, 04:5806/11/22
02/24/19
7259
Lyryal

So to make this short , 60 toragi , temali ,armiger , ascend lyssandra , set cb team with specific order like mentionned while farming their mastery and better gear ? That would be my current plan ? ^^

Sounds great. Also Ascend Captain Temila too. :)

Jun 12, 2022, 01:3106/12/22
Jun 12, 2022, 02:24(edited)
04/25/22
63
kramaswamy.kr

Warchief has value in a few places, though I don't know if I'd level him yet. Shatterbones is good for OG faction wars. Temilla can have value in CB as a DEF-up champ.

In fact, you actually have a decent CB team right now:

  • Anax (DEF Down + Weaken) - Turn off A2 (you'll get enough poisons from Toragi)
  • Toragi (Poison + Ally Protect) - Turn off A2
  • Temilla (DEF Up + Ally Protect)
  • Deliana (Leech) - Turn off A2 and A3
  • [Missing] (ATK Down) - Run Nazana for now, but replace her ASAP. Toragi's ATK down isn't consistent enough to rely on.

Just pulled a Jareg , so that replaces Nazana right ? Has att down on a1 

Jun 12, 2022, 02:1806/12/22
06/25/20
6207

IIRC longer cooldown so 

Jun 12, 2022, 22:4306/12/22
04/25/22
63

Even if Jareg bring att down and aly protect ?

Jun 13, 2022, 04:1406/13/22
12/28/21
1

What is this turning off A1 or A2?

How do you turn off a specific skill?

Jun 13, 2022, 04:4806/13/22
07/08/19
934
Guido1958

What is this turning off A1 or A2?

How do you turn off a specific skill?

on the screen where you select your team, there's a button in the upper left labelled team setup, which allows you to build and run a preselected team. open the menu, find the team you want, and click the button on the right side with the slider icon to open skill instructions. in there you'll be able to set which skills are given priority or turn them off entirely. unfortunately it only works with saved teams, so you if you want to permadeactivate a skill on a specific champion (*cough* vrask *cough*) you'll need to save every setup you use them in.