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Add Nogdar to your rebalance list, Plarium

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Apr 26, 2022, 20:3004/26/22
06/25/20
6205

Add Nogdar to your rebalance list, Plarium

Pretty please? He's one of the coolest lego champs in the game, as far as design space is concerned. He has an absolutely unique kit, centered around intentionally bringing himself as close to death as possible. But he's crippled by an absolutely nonsensical decision to make both his A1 and his A2 provide healing.

In a perfect world, you'd run his A2, and use a Frenzy set to get a big TM boost as a consequence. Then you'd use his A3, and, again with the Frenzy set bonus, set yourself up for an insta kill with the A1 and an extra turn.

But you decided to make both his A1 and A2 heal, so instead, what happens is, you lose half your HP, but then heal back up to 80% from the two CHs on his A2. Then, when you do your swap, you only bring the enemy down to 40%. Might still be enough to kill, but unlikely, especially in the obvious place to use him - DT Hard. And that's assuming nothing else on your team tangentially also heals him.

Here's the thing - rebalancing him would be *super* easy. Literally all you need to do is remove the CH on his A2, and boom, he becomes instantly viable.

But why stop there? Let's make this unique champ truly unique. Rather than just removing the heal from his A2, how about change both the A1 and A2 to provide a shield instead? Make the A2 provide a shield valued at 20% of the damage done, and the A1 at 10%. Even better - make the A2 also provide an extra turn, so he can really get his combo going.

And before you start saying "that would be too powerful!" - he's a lego champ, in a sea of other, much more specifically nuke-oriented lego champs. Let's make him unique! Let people build cool, interesting teams around his unique kit.

(and yes, I may potentially be biased, since I have three of him now) 

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Apr 26, 2022, 20:4004/26/22
02/29/20
608

Hopefully  Jingwon  should  be  in  the  #1  Spot  for  rebalance  lol

Jan 20, 2023, 21:0701/20/23
Jan 20, 2023, 21:07(edited)
06/25/20
6205

Eight months later, I'm going to bump this up, because I want my Nogdar to be useful.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that I have three of them >_>

Jan 20, 2023, 21:3101/20/23
12/19/19
5991
kramaswamy.kr

Eight months later, I'm going to bump this up, because I want my Nogdar to be useful.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that I have three of them >_>

He had his 5 minutes (maybe half a day) of fame in sand devil... 

dthorne04Moderator
Jan 20, 2023, 22:2301/20/23
12/30/20
5377
kramaswamy.kr

Eight months later, I'm going to bump this up, because I want my Nogdar to be useful.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that I have three of them >_>

if we're rooting for dupes to get buffed I've got a dupe Vlad just waiting :)

Jan 20, 2023, 22:2501/20/23
10/15/20
2046
dthorne04

if we're rooting for dupes to get buffed I've got a dupe Vlad just waiting :)

No place for Vlad in your DT Scarab team? Destroy enemy max hp and turnmeter reduce in his kit.

Or do you use Vlad allready and want just the dupe buffed?

Jan 20, 2023, 22:2501/20/23
06/25/20
6205

Vlad at least has uses - I used him for a long time in DTH, with Roric, as a control champ.

dthorne04Moderator
Jan 20, 2023, 22:2701/20/23
12/30/20
5377
Skadi

No place for Vlad in your DT Scarab team? Destroy enemy max hp and turnmeter reduce in his kit.

Or do you use Vlad allready and want just the dupe buffed?

Working towards Urost in that solo role but I'm spoiled rotten by multiple Alures/CHs/Stag/RG/Armiger (depending on affinity) with MM as my shield champ. Haven't messed with it in ages during Scarab farming. 

I'd mainly just like to see Vlad get some love and be a little more usable for PvP purposes :)

dthorne04Moderator
Jan 20, 2023, 22:3701/20/23
12/30/20
5377
kramaswamy.kr

Vlad at least has uses - I used him for a long time in DTH, with Roric, as a control champ.

Yeah, he's objectively fine. 

I just think he's underwhelming considering he's a void legendary. 😔

Jan 20, 2023, 23:2201/20/23
05/03/20
1751
kramaswamy.kr

Eight months later, I'm going to bump this up, because I want my Nogdar to be useful.

And this has nothing to do with the fact that I have three of them >_>

Its purely coincidental that you happen to have 3 of them in your vault.  Hmmmm.  No, we dont believe you.   lol

Mar 22, 2023, 16:0703/22/23
06/25/20
6205

Another bump up here. Let's go, Nogdar! Other champs around you are being buffed, time to rework this baby! And while we're at it, let's take a look at Nobel! And no, the fact that I have three of the former and four of the latter has nothing at all to do with it >_>

Mar 22, 2023, 16:0903/22/23
06/25/20
6205
dthorne04

if we're rooting for dupes to get buffed I've got a dupe Vlad just waiting :)

Also, do I sense a bit of forum mod bias in decision-making for champs to buff? :D

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 22, 2023, 16:1003/22/23
02/24/19
7258
kramaswamy.kr

Another bump up here. Let's go, Nogdar! Other champs around you are being buffed, time to rework this baby! And while we're at it, let's take a look at Nobel! And no, the fact that I have three of the former and four of the latter has nothing at all to do with it >_>

It's an older bump sir, but it checks out.


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dthorne04Moderator
Mar 22, 2023, 16:1903/22/23
12/30/20
5377
kramaswamy.kr

Also, do I sense a bit of forum mod bias in decision-making for champs to buff? :D

still not enough for me to use so clearly I'm not good at this. 😂

I will start a Nogdar buff prayer circle for you. 


harleQuinnModerator
Mar 22, 2023, 16:2303/22/23
02/24/19
7258
kramaswamy.kr

Also, do I sense a bit of forum mod bias in decision-making for champs to buff? :D

Who me? Proud Suzerain owner and user? Elegauis owner?

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Apr 27, 2023, 16:0104/27/23
06/25/20
6205

Wow. They actually listened, sorta. A3 extra turn instead of a2 like I wanted, but passive revive with 100% tm too. Now I'm thinking about meta-viable teams with a3 into a2 self die into revive into a1 extra turn etc

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 27, 2023, 16:1304/27/23
02/24/19
7258
kramaswamy.kr

Wow. They actually listened, sorta. A3 extra turn instead of a2 like I wanted, but passive revive with 100% tm too. Now I'm thinking about meta-viable teams with a3 into a2 self die into revive into a1 extra turn etc

Enjoy your buff, sir

Apr 27, 2023, 20:4504/27/23
12/09/22
119

I wish Nobel got a buff..i just drew one and he kinda sucks

Apr 27, 2023, 21:0704/27/23
06/25/20
6205
Donvak

I wish Nobel got a buff..i just drew one and he kinda sucks

Lol. I have three :)

Apr 27, 2023, 21:2104/27/23
12/09/22
119
kramaswamy.kr

Lol. I have three :)

I don't know if i should congratulate you or give you my condolences

Apr 28, 2023, 00:2904/28/23
06/25/20
6205

@harleQuinn two questions for you on this:

1) If he uses his A3 into A2, will it kill him? I assume the answer is yes, since clearly 50% + 50% = 100%, but it would be nice to know if there isn't some wonky thing that says "he survives with 1hp"

2) Does his passive still have a 1-turn cooldown?