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Mar 21, 2022, 21:0803/21/22
08/22/21
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Arena help

I fed my Khatun early on in the game but just drew her.  Now I'm trying to figure if she'll fit in my existing Arena team. I've got Jingle, Scyl, Serris and Dark Elhain.  Jingle is pretty hot so thinking replace Scyl with Khatun?

I'm barely hanging in Gold 1....

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dthorne04Moderator
Mar 21, 2022, 22:0203/21/22
12/30/20
5482

Glad you got another HK. :) Would you be able to post your entire roster? Could be a few team options you have lying around.

As it stands Khatun is a better speed lead option than Jinglehunter, but overall it would be nice to see everything you're working with. Possible you might run both together with Serris and a nuker. 

Mar 21, 2022, 22:1803/21/22
08/22/21
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Mar 21, 2022, 22:2903/21/22
06/25/20
6294

I think you'll want to build a team around Longbeard. I see Skullcrown and Sinesha, which are the other two pieces of a blender team. I would go with something like Khatun + Longbeard + Skullcrown + Sinesha.

Mar 21, 2022, 22:3003/21/22
08/22/21
14

Just starting to build her so might be a while. But that's what I was thinking. 

Mar 21, 2022, 22:3103/21/22
08/22/21
14

Dark Elhain as nuker.

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2022, 22:3203/21/22
02/24/19
7338

My thoughts is that Jinglehunter is fine to keep in, since he has that 24% speed aura, which looks to be your best arena speed aura on the account. You could easily run him lead, with High Khatun as your fastest champ. Boost TM with Khatun then strip with Serris and nuke with Dark Elhain. Jingehunter stays in, fast but accurate I would think, in the middle there, as pseudo CC to initially decrease some enemy TM, then come back around and potentially freeze anyone still standing.

Alternatively, you could also run High Khatun in the aura slot and pair with a super fast Apothecary, in a double speed boosting team. Apothecary -> High Khatun -> Serris -> Dark Elhain. Apothecary .tays as your fastest champ cause High Khatun is 104 speed at 60 and Apothecary is 106 I believe.

Mar 21, 2022, 22:3303/21/22
08/22/21
14

A long while Kramaswamy, 3 of those not built yet but I like it.

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 21, 2022, 22:3603/21/22
Mar 21, 2022, 22:54(edited)
02/24/19
7338
kramaswamy.kr

I think you'll want to build a team around Longbeard. I see Skullcrown and Sinesha, which are the other two pieces of a blender team. I would go with something like Khatun + Longbeard + Skullcrown + Sinesha.

This team Krama is suggesting wouldn't use Dark Elhain, it works around the Ally Rally/Blender concept.

High Khatun boosts TM, Longbeard goes next and Ally Attacks with the whole team, and Skullcrown and Sinesha wipe the enemy team with their hard hitting A1s during that Ally Attack. (With Longbeard they also do not suffer much from the Ally Attack/Counterattack penalty of 25%, since he boosts their attack by 20% during this)

Even if you dont quite wipe tough enemy teams, Sinesha and Skullcrown have Unkillable and Revive shenanigans in their kits when paired together, which means you almost always get a chance to AoE hit the enemy team at least once or twice more to finish them off.

It is a strong team, especially on Arena Offense. Less strong on Defense though, but such is the problem with many many team concepts.

Perhaps I was just explaining some things you already knew though... If so, perhaps it helps some future reader.  :D :D

Mar 21, 2022, 23:0403/21/22
08/22/21
14

I've put off 6 starring Sinesha for a long time but just got Skullcrown. Looking forward to it.

Mar 21, 2022, 23:2103/21/22
08/22/21
14

Thanks for the help guys.  I'll be working on that blender team.

Mar 21, 2022, 23:5203/21/22
12/19/19
6050

Not a fan of the blender comp, especially since u haven't built most of the champs yet.  Alot of work for a niche comp that will only win if u go 1st on offense and is horrible on defense.   


Mar 22, 2022, 00:4603/22/22
10/15/20
2046

Just remove Scyl and use Apo instead. You don't really need High Khatun for your arena team. Apo does the same she does (15% tm boost and 30% speed buff), and Jinglehunter's aura is better than Khatun's.

Jinglehunter (teamleader), Apo (super fast), Madame Serris, Dark Elhain. All champs lvl 60 allready. 

Scyl doesn't fit in your team, a speed buff from Apo instead would be much better.

Mar 22, 2022, 01:0303/22/22
12/19/19
6050
Skadi

Just remove Scyl and use Apo instead. You don't really need High Khatun for your arena team. Apo does the same she does (15% tm boost and 30% speed buff), and Jinglehunter's aura is better than Khatun's.

Jinglehunter (teamleader), Apo (super fast), Madame Serris, Dark Elhain. All champs lvl 60 allready. 

Scyl doesn't fit in your team, a speed buff from Apo instead would be much better.

Really a sneaky good comp, as always gear will be the key. Jinglehunter works well here, open with tm reduction and freeze on the clean up if de can't nuke all.

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 22, 2022, 06:5303/22/22
02/24/19
7338
Skadi

Just remove Scyl and use Apo instead. You don't really need High Khatun for your arena team. Apo does the same she does (15% tm boost and 30% speed buff), and Jinglehunter's aura is better than Khatun's.

Jinglehunter (teamleader), Apo (super fast), Madame Serris, Dark Elhain. All champs lvl 60 allready. 

Scyl doesn't fit in your team, a speed buff from Apo instead would be much better.

I don't mind separating the champ roles in most cases since you don't need to immediately fully level High Khatun to start using her. That leaves Apothecary free to run dungeons a little stronger.... but OP has a great deal of good support champs already leveled in his roster for dungeons. Sethallia, Maus Mage, Scyl, Doomy.

Apothecary isn't as necessary for OP to be in other roles, if at all, so he can "take the hit" of being in whatever the fastest gear is regardless of flat stat or weird main stats, and you still have a ton of champs for dungeon running.

Long way to say: I like this team, and for OP specifically. 

I do feel like Ally Rally might be the way to go eventually. :)

harleQuinnModerator
Mar 22, 2022, 06:5803/22/22
02/24/19
7338
Trips

Not a fan of the blender comp, especially since u haven't built most of the champs yet.  Alot of work for a niche comp that will only win if u go 1st on offense and is horrible on defense.   


Speed nuke teams are the same as this. They typically only win if they go first, offense or defense. :)

I think Ally Rally teams with Sinesha/Skullcrown have some additional Unkillable and Revive on Death shenanigans already built in that can sneak a win in sometimes too, especially when you're fighting down in Silver and lower Gold. So in my experience, they win when they go first, and occasionally even when they go second.

You may personally have an easy time with Blender comps, but I'd rather face a Speed Nuke team any day, cause they are basically free wins with my teams. :D

Mar 22, 2022, 14:4503/22/22
12/19/19
6050
harleQuinn

Speed nuke teams are the same as this. They typically only win if they go first, offense or defense. :)

I think Ally Rally teams with Sinesha/Skullcrown have some additional Unkillable and Revive on Death shenanigans already built in that can sneak a win in sometimes too, especially when you're fighting down in Silver and lower Gold. So in my experience, they win when they go first, and occasionally even when they go second.

You may personally have an easy time with Blender comps, but I'd rather face a Speed Nuke team any day, cause they are basically free wins with my teams. :D

I should clarify that I consider pure speed nuke teams equally bad :)

That is no cc of any kind.  Both free wins. 


harleQuinnModerator
Mar 23, 2022, 01:4003/23/22
02/24/19
7338
Trips

I should clarify that I consider pure speed nuke teams equally bad :)

That is no cc of any kind.  Both free wins. 


Hah, yeah.

I can still get occasionally get caught out by teams with a super fast immunity Ally Rally champ, but that is mainly cause I have my nuker built counting on the Maulie TM boost. I try to let the Siphi and/Arbi get a turn to provoke into Maulie to get rid of Reaction procs.