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Jan 10, 2022, 15:1101/10/22
03/16/20
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UNM CB help … please!

Hey...  I'm struggling  with  squeezing  more  than  about  20mil  damage  (against  void)  out  of  my  UNM  CB  team.  I  really  want  to  get  a  3  key  team  in  place  (  preferably  2  key  but  i  doubt  that  will  ever  happen  )  .  I  *think*  I'm  using  the  best  guys  I  have  for  it  ...  maybe?  my  Concern  is  that  i  just  dont  have  the  gear  to  be  able  to  set  them  up  right...  anybody  willing  to  take  a  quick  peek  and  tell  me  where  im  going  wrong?  Team  and  build  below  ..  plus  a  full  roster  shot  just  in  case  im  leaving  out  soemone  obvious  (  Sandlashed?  Geomancer  ...  )  being  free  to  play  i  dont  have  a  great  deal  to  play  with!  Thanks  in  advance!


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Jan 10, 2022, 15:3601/10/22
06/25/20
6445

Is Aniri on the team in order for SS to have her block debuffs remain active for the stun? If so, the better approach is to run 4:3 on SS so that she can use her A2 either on turn 2 if she is last, or on turn 3. This was my rotation when I was using her - same combo, with SK. That would let you replace her with someone that can contribute more to damage. Swapping Geomancer in might bring you up to 2 key range, should easily get 3 key. Another option would be potentially Sandlashed for double ally protect.

Jan 10, 2022, 15:4201/10/22
03/16/20
48
kramaswamy.kr

Is Aniri on the team in order for SS to have her block debuffs remain active for the stun? If so, the better approach is to run 4:3 on SS so that she can use her A2 either on turn 2 if she is last, or on turn 3. This was my rotation when I was using her - same combo, with SK. That would let you replace her with someone that can contribute more to damage. Swapping Geomancer in might bring you up to 2 key range, should easily get 3 key. Another option would be potentially Sandlashed for double ally protect.

#kramaswamy.kr thanks  ....

by  4:3  do  you  mean  speed?  So  Aniri  has  200  &  SS  has  150  (  for  example!  ).

and  when  you  say  swap  Geomancer  in,  who  for  for?  Aniri?

Jan 10, 2022, 15:5001/10/22
06/25/20
6445

4:3 means she gets four turns for every three CB turns. You'll want to use the CB planner to plan it out - DeadwoodJedi Speed Calculator. From my recollection, SS needed around 250 speed in order to get the rotation working right.

But upon thinking about it - I forgot that Sandlashed also does buff extend. So that should just be a straight-up upgrade over Aniri for that comp, since it'll let you keep SS on 1:1 while also being able to block debuff, and you gain the double ally protect.

I would start with that, and if it still doesn't work, then consider trying Geomancer instead, with the 4:3 SS.

Jan 10, 2022, 16:4401/10/22
06/19/17
211

Also pretty much the entire team seems to have 5-star amulets. I guess alot of damage could be gained by some luck getting 6-star crit amulets from spider or from Clan quest shop.

Jan 10, 2022, 17:1001/10/22
12/19/19
6160

geomancer is a must, especially against affinity CB

CD would be the least of my concerns, HP and DEF.  more rounds = more damage

Jan 10, 2022, 17:3501/10/22
03/16/20
48

So,  switching  out  Aniri  for  Geomancer  got  me  26mil  (  ie  scraping  a  3  key!  )  which  is  great  but  i  do  worry  that  if  geomancer  goes  down  quickly  from  rng  it'll  be  game  over  and  a  10mil  key.  Will  maybe  try  sandlashed  but  she's  not  fully  booked....


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Jan 10, 2022, 17:3901/10/22
06/25/20
6445

You can't just swap Aniri out for Geo. If SS isn't on a 4:3 rotation, her block debuffs won't be up each time to block the stun, which means you'll be losing quite a few turns for her to attack. That, in turn, means she's likely to die on the attack after the stun, since she can't heal back to full.

Jan 10, 2022, 17:4401/10/22
12/19/19
6160
Eltox

So,  switching  out  Aniri  for  Geomancer  got  me  26mil  (  ie  scraping  a  3  key!  )  which  is  great  but  i  do  worry  that  if  geomancer  goes  down  quickly  from  rng  it'll  be  game  over  and  a  10mil  key.  Will  maybe  try  sandlashed  but  she's  not  fully  booked....


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how many turns did you go?

Jan 10, 2022, 17:4501/10/22
12/19/19
6160

and geo will do a ton more damage against affinity switch on your next key.  Your clan does kill unm I assume?


Jan 10, 2022, 17:5601/10/22
03/16/20
48

Sandlashed  was  a  disaster...  lol  ..  16mil

Jan 10, 2022, 17:5701/10/22
03/16/20
48
Trips

and geo will do a ton more damage against affinity switch on your next key.  Your clan does kill unm I assume?


No  they  don't..  only  4  or  5  of  us  hit  UNM  so  i  never  get  to  go  against  affinity...  :-(

Jan 10, 2022, 17:5801/10/22
03/16/20
48
Trips

how many turns did you go?

Around  30  i  think

Jan 10, 2022, 17:5901/10/22
03/16/20
48
kramaswamy.kr

You can't just swap Aniri out for Geo. If SS isn't on a 4:3 rotation, her block debuffs won't be up each time to block the stun, which means you'll be losing quite a few turns for her to attack. That, in turn, means she's likely to die on the attack after the stun, since she can't heal back to full.

Yeah  well  that  my  conundrum  i  guess...  aniri  was  nice  in  that  she  could  revive  SS  generally  twice  now  and  again

Jan 10, 2022, 18:1001/10/22
12/19/19
6160
Eltox

Yeah  well  that  my  conundrum  i  guess...  aniri  was  nice  in  that  she  could  revive  SS  generally  twice  now  and  again

don't rely on revive in CB, better strategy is not to die :)  

harleQuinnModerator
Jan 10, 2022, 18:2301/10/22
02/24/19
7498

Speed tuning Sepulcher and your other champs is going to be your next big step in CB damage. Here's my suggestion for a team that accommodates a Counterattacker and runs Sepulcher on a 4/3.

https://www.deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes-4/Sepulcher-Build

You can check out the basic guidance there for speeds and then work out a great speed tune in the Calculator. Did one real quick as an example, in case you haven't worked with the speed calculator yet.

Good luck! :)


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Jan 10, 2022, 20:2001/10/22
03/16/20
48
harleQuinn

Speed tuning Sepulcher and your other champs is going to be your next big step in CB damage. Here's my suggestion for a team that accommodates a Counterattacker and runs Sepulcher on a 4/3.

https://www.deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes-4/Sepulcher-Build

You can check out the basic guidance there for speeds and then work out a great speed tune in the Calculator. Did one real quick as an example, in case you haven't worked with the speed calculator yet.

Good luck! :)


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Thanks!  Will  take  me  a  while  to  digest  that!

Jan 10, 2022, 20:3101/10/22
12/19/19
6160
Eltox

No  they  don't..  only  4  or  5  of  us  hit  UNM  so  i  never  get  to  go  against  affinity...  :-(

You need a new clan.  You will 3 key unm easy just with the geomancer swap.  Will need to drop anax against blue, and spirit may require a different swap.  Bite the bullet and find a new is first thing though.