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Aug 12, 2023, 16:2908/12/23
12/16/21
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Question about how Phantom touch procs

I recently upgraded my Fenax to a 5* phantom touch, and now his A1 block revive never seems to activate.

I saw there are some old threads about it but they don't really explain the mechanics.

I get that if the damage from phantom touch is what makes the kill, the A1 won't proc block revive, but my question is does the phantom touch damage get applied before or after the A1 damage?


If it's before, then Fenax's block revive will only ever apply if the target has more health than phantom touch will damage, but not enough to suvive the A1 damage that follows?


I'd happily change him to a crushing rend, but they "rebalanced" it to be useless under 6* :(

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Aug 12, 2023, 16:5108/12/23
07/08/19
935

phantom touch gets applied after the attack.

dthorne04Moderator
Aug 12, 2023, 17:2808/12/23
12/30/20
5417

the tl;dr as to how to approach block revive champs (Fenax and Inithwe come to mind) and anything that is bonus damage (phantom, reap, wm/gs)

those bonuses are perceived as not coming from the champion themselves as a source of damage and thus will not let you block revive

Aug 12, 2023, 17:4608/12/23
12/16/21
417

But does the phantom touch damage proc before or after? What if Fenax gets his second attack, would it go A1 first attack, phantom touch, A1 second hit?


I've been seeing a lot of fights where I was absolutely sure (and ill concede it's possible I was wrong) that Fenax would make the kill with just his regular A1 but then block revive didnt proc.

For instance, an unkillable wears off on Leo, hes at 1 hp, Fenax attacks with A1, Leo goes down but DOESN'T get block revive

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Aug 12, 2023, 18:1608/12/23
06/24/19
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MooredRat

But does the phantom touch damage proc before or after? What if Fenax gets his second attack, would it go A1 first attack, phantom touch, A1 second hit?


I've been seeing a lot of fights where I was absolutely sure (and ill concede it's possible I was wrong) that Fenax would make the kill with just his regular A1 but then block revive didnt proc.

For instance, an unkillable wears off on Leo, hes at 1 hp, Fenax attacks with A1, Leo goes down but DOESN'T get block revive

I'll see if I can get an official answer but my gut feeling is the damage is the damage is applied simultaneously, and just shown separately visually.

Aug 12, 2023, 18:2708/12/23
10/01/22
463

my fenax also has phantom touch and i use him in the arena quite a lot, iv not really noticed it stopping him from landing his block revive, from what im seeing im landing it on 90% success rate, iv never really noticed if deathtouch is stopping it from working at times but iv also not really been looking out for it.