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I just assembled and got speeds right for a highmythman clan boss team

I just assembled and got speeds right for a highmythman clan boss team

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Nov 14, 2022, 18:1511/14/22
07/13/22
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I just assembled and got speeds right for a highmythman clan boss team

I am wondering if someone could help me choose the correct dps's for the team. I know they should have decrease defense and decrease attack. Just not sure would bring that to the table. Any help would be appreciated. Gear and speeds limit other combos at this time. Others can be leveled and mastered if not 60 already. 

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Nov 14, 2022, 19:1611/14/22
07/08/19
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why would you need decrease attack? i admit im not overly familiar with this particular comp, but it is an unkillable setup, no? decrease attack is irrelevant.

as for dps, i would definitely run fahrakin. i rather like fayne as well, although that would make your team quite weak against the magic boss.

Nov 14, 2022, 20:3111/14/22
07/13/22
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True on decrease attack, was not thinking of unkillable just the normal. Occult Brawler work for affinity? 



Nov 15, 2022, 00:4211/15/22
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cpetree

True on decrease attack, was not thinking of unkillable just the normal. Occult Brawler work for affinity? 



yes and no. occult brawler is a good source of poison and his passive won't be affected by the affinity disadvantage, but you would lose out on  a weaken debuff. 

if you do end up using occult brawler, you'll want to turn off his a2, since it will throw off your speed tuning if the extra turn triggers.

Nov 15, 2022, 01:1611/15/22
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Do you have any other suggestions that would be affinity friendly out of the champs shown? Thank you for the advice. 

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 15, 2022, 03:1911/15/22
02/24/19
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Fayne and Fahrakin are a great choice for your two DPS.

If you wanna get a little crazy you could always go Longbeard and Fahrakin, get Ally Attack for days and days. You'll lose out on a couple poisons every CB turn is the issue.

Not a ton of stellar CB damage options besides. :)

Nov 15, 2022, 03:4911/15/22
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Thanks I was worried about longbeard throwing off the timing? If that would not throw off the timing seems like it might be better than the poisons? Also was wonder about Aothar coming in since he has 4 attacks on his a2 placing 5% poisons each time or would that load the attack bar too full? 

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 15, 2022, 04:0011/15/22
02/24/19
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cpetree

Thanks I was worried about longbeard throwing off the timing? If that would not throw off the timing seems like it might be better than the poisons? Also was wonder about Aothar coming in since he has 4 attacks on his a2 placing 5% poisons each time or would that load the attack bar too full? 

Ally Attack would not throw off the timing, no.

Aothar is okayish to good, but I wouldn't build and book him just to drop into Blue CB. You will use him 25% of the time in your CB, won't have Weaken and no greater chance to land Dec Def. In fact, you'll have considerably less Dec Def landing, since you'll only have Fatman A1, and will no longer have Fayne Dec Def to rely on. Sure, they're weak affinity on Blue.... but Fayne Dec Def and Fatman A1 Dec Def is better on Blue in my opinion than Aothar with only poisons and Fatman A1 Dec Def.

Nov 15, 2022, 04:1111/15/22
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Thanks HarleQuinn I aooreciate it. Hopefully I will get a good dps someday 😀

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 15, 2022, 04:2011/15/22
02/24/19
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cpetree

Thanks HarleQuinn I aooreciate it. Hopefully I will get a good dps someday 😀

You have two of the best in the game in Fayne & Fatman!

Although I may recommend a 2:1 team for you later (like a Deacon/Seeker/Demytha team when you can hit those 300 speed Demytha requirements) you've got no need to switch out your DPS from those two ever. :)

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 15, 2022, 04:2911/15/22
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Just to show you how great they both are....

My team from 15 months ago, using Fayne:

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My team from now using Fahrakin:

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Nov 15, 2022, 17:0711/15/22
Nov 15, 2022, 17:08(edited)
07/13/22
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Thanks HarleQuinn, Yes I would like to move the team up at some point but the speeds are just not there yet with the gear. 😀

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 15, 2022, 17:1811/15/22
02/24/19
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cpetree

Thanks HarleQuinn, Yes I would like to move the team up at some point but the speeds are just not there yet with the gear. 😀

You'll get there! Just keep at it! :)

Nov 15, 2022, 19:0711/15/22
07/13/22
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I die on turn 14 in nightmare. I have:

 maneater doing a1,a2,a3,a1,a2  maneater 245 speed no sets

high khatun a2, a1   111 speed no sets

demytha a2,a1    112 speed 2 perception sets

the dps's are at 122 no sets.  


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dthorne04Moderator
Nov 15, 2022, 22:2311/15/22
12/30/20
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cpetree

I die on turn 14 in nightmare. I have:

 maneater doing a1,a2,a3,a1,a2  maneater 245 speed no sets

high khatun a2, a1   111 speed no sets

demytha a2,a1    112 speed 2 perception sets

the dps's are at 122 no sets.  


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I don't believe the AI settings are correct for NM.

https://deadwoodjedi.info/cb/10c82b61cd1c2b5467a8839cf166985297e1721b

Looks like ME: A2, A1, A3

Demy: A2, A1, A3

HK: A3, A1, A2

So 2 turn delay on HK's A2, ME's A3 and Demy's A3.

Nov 15, 2022, 23:1111/15/22
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dthorne04

I don't believe the AI settings are correct for NM.

https://deadwoodjedi.info/cb/10c82b61cd1c2b5467a8839cf166985297e1721b

Looks like ME: A2, A1, A3

Demy: A2, A1, A3

HK: A3, A1, A2

So 2 turn delay on HK's A2, ME's A3 and Demy's A3.

Thanks Dthorne, I figured I was missing something but could not find the setups anywhere on it. 

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 17, 2022, 23:2311/17/22
02/24/19
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cpetree

Thanks Dthorne, I figured I was missing something but could not find the setups anywhere on it. 

Is it working well for you now?


Nov 18, 2022, 00:1011/18/22
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harleQuinn

Is it working well for you now?


I changed my mind on it. I am actually going to run a budget maneater. This is one of the things I struggle with at this point. I have so many ways to go with unkillable but do not really have the gear to do it right. The other stats besides speed are better with the budget maneater it seems. A little theory crafting with the optimizer on HH's website. Still trying to get all the masteries and gear switched over. 

dthorne04Moderator
Nov 18, 2022, 01:3511/18/22
12/30/20
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cpetree

I changed my mind on it. I am actually going to run a budget maneater. This is one of the things I struggle with at this point. I have so many ways to go with unkillable but do not really have the gear to do it right. The other stats besides speed are better with the budget maneater it seems. A little theory crafting with the optimizer on HH's website. Still trying to get all the masteries and gear switched over. 

I was going to ask about this but wasn't sure if you could hit the speeds. Do you know who you're going to use as a Slowboi? You have quite a few options there at first glance. Rugnor, Rowan and Skraank all seem reasonable, though I definitely like the latter two more.

Have you looked into Myth Eater, too? Not sure if that speed for Maneater might be too high, though.

Nov 18, 2022, 03:4411/18/22
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dthorne04

I was going to ask about this but wasn't sure if you could hit the speeds. Do you know who you're going to use as a Slowboi? You have quite a few options there at first glance. Rugnor, Rowan and Skraank all seem reasonable, though I definitely like the latter two more.

Have you looked into Myth Eater, too? Not sure if that speed for Maneater might be too high, though.

The maneater speed is just a little out of reach right now. Not alot but enough. I was going to use fayne and fahrakin for the dps's and then use occult brawler for the slowboi. Do you think one of the others would be better and more affinity friendly?  

Nov 18, 2022, 03:4911/18/22
Nov 18, 2022, 04:15(edited)
07/13/22
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I just looked at the ones you suggested and all would be affinity friendly. Good call on that. Now which would be best is the question?  Skraank's A2: Attacks 1 enemy 2 times. Heals this Champion by 15% of their MAX HP on each critical hit.  Wondering if that may throw off the stun attack possibly. Looks like to me Rowan would be the best pick of the 3 but I may be missing something. Rowan by the calculator after building the rest of the team the highest hp I am going to get to is 29,000. My pain keeper is sitting at 36,000. Again a big thanks to all of you for what you do.