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Jun 19, 2019, 01:2106/19/19

05/11/19

Skill Upgrade Calculations Question

Let's say a skill heals for 15% Max HP without any points into upgrades. And then you upgrade it and it gets a +10% Heal buff. I understand that the calculation is 10% of that 15, totaling 16.5% Heal for the skill.

I am wondering if this method of calculation is the same across the board for all types of skill upgrades. Let's use Warmaiden as a new example. Crumbling Blast has a 75% of placing a debuff. After the skill is upgraded and gets a +10% Buff/Debuff Chance, does this mean that the chance of applying the debuff is now 82.5% (as a result of adding 10% of 75), or is it now 85% Chance (as a result of straight addition)?

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Asır Ozan

Jun 19, 2019, 11:4106/19/19

03/22/19

215

From what I understand it's only healing abilities that are multiplicative instead of additive. So for debuff skills, it's additive. So 75% + 10% = 85%. Whereas damage buffs are applied at the end of the original damage. So 5000 damage + 10% = 5500 damage.

There may be other examples of multiplicative skill increases/masteries, though I don't remember them if there are.

King00525

Jun 19, 2019, 14:2206/19/19

05/11/19

Okay! Thanks for the fast response.

Player J

Jun 20, 2019, 09:4006/20/19

05/13/19

2326

The game did a Video on it.

I believe 3 different things were multiplied.

-Heal %

-Damage %

-Shield Buff %

The rest were added onto the score.

ChosenBrad22Moderator

Jun 21, 2019, 04:1406/21/19

03/30/19

PlayerJ is correct!

NickFrost

Dec 2, 2020, 05:3012/02/20

12/07/19

I posted an additional question to this topic before finding it via searching for information. https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/212316_skill-upgrade-question/

This post indicates +chance upgrades are not multiplicative, which adds further mystery to the example in my recent posting.

Please point out and forgive me if I am being a total airhead and missing something obvious.

Thank you,

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