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Does "Sniper" Mastery Have Any Impact on Buff Stealing?

Does "Sniper" Mastery Have Any Impact on Buff Stealing?

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Jul 27, 2019, 02:4107/27/19
07/15/19
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Does "Sniper" Mastery Have Any Impact on Buff Stealing?

Wondering if I were to use this sniper mastery on Aothar, whether or not it would increase his chance to steal buffs from other champions?  It isn't a debuff, just a negative effect, so thinking it wouldn't affect it, right?
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Jul 27, 2019, 08:5807/27/19
04/20/19
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ThrobbingCerk said:


Wondering if I were to use this sniper mastery on Aothar, whether or not it would increase his chance to steal buffs from other champions?  It isn't a debuff, just a negative effect, so thinking it wouldn't affect it, right?
I do not believe so.
Jul 27, 2019, 18:1407/27/19
07/15/19
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Actually, after looking at the skill and the skill-ups, pretty sure it will increase his chances.  Some of the skill ups for that specific skill are "increase buff/debuff chance" which means the developers consider what he does a debuff.  So, I'd imagine it should.  


Would be nice if they made more of an effort to make those types of things transparent.  Like once we do get skill ups or masteries, have the buff/debuff chance actually update so we know the *current* buff/debuff chance.  But since they can't profit off doing that, I'm sure it will never happen.
OpheliaA1Moderator
Jul 30, 2019, 13:0407/30/19
Jun 4, 2021, 16:58(edited)
03/11/19
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the increase in debuff chance will add to the existing debuff chance displayed on the ability

if there is no debuff chance displayed in %

then the debuff is 100% (resist will still apply)

always pay attention to the ability debuff chance and the skill books addition to that (debuff chance from book do not add visually, so you have to add it mentally)

Jul 30, 2019, 18:5507/30/19
05/12/19
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ThrobbingCerk said:

Actually, after looking at the skill and the skill-ups, pretty sure it will increase his chances.  Some of the skill ups for that specific skill are "increase buff/debuff chance" which means the developers consider what he does a debuff.  So, I'd imagine it should.  


Would be nice if they made more of an effort to make those types of things transparent.  Like once we do get skill ups or masteries, have the buff/debuff chance actually update so we know the *current* buff/debuff chance.  But since they can't profit off doing that, I'm sure it will never happen.
Mastery increases chance of placing debuffs. Steal isn't debuff and that skill doesn't places any debuffs.
Jul 31, 2019, 03:5607/31/19
05/16/19
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TurboLv said:


ThrobbingCerk said:


Actually, after looking at the skill and the skill-ups, pretty sure it will increase his chances.  Some of the skill ups for that specific skill are "increase buff/debuff chance" which means the developers consider what he does a debuff.  So, I'd imagine it should.  


Would be nice if they made more of an effort to make those types of things transparent.  Like once we do get skill ups or masteries, have the buff/debuff chance actually update so we know the *current* buff/debuff chance.  But since they can't profit off doing that, I'm sure it will never happen.
Mastery increases chance of placing debuffs. Steal isn't debuff and that skill doesn't places any debuffs.

Actually, you are wrong.  In the champion's skill, it clearly shows skill ups that "increase buff/debuff chance" right under the A1 skill they are talking about.  So yes, increasing debuff chance does indeed increase the chance to steal. 

Like the mod said, always pay attention to the skill ups under the attack.

You tend to throw a lot of info out there that is wrong Turbo.  Maybe spend less time trolling the forums and more time learning.  Not trying to be rude, just honest...

Sep 16, 2021, 13:0009/16/21
04/08/20
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Does the sniper mastery increase 5% chance on retaliation artifacts, or relentless, curing etc?

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 16, 2021, 13:1309/16/21
02/24/19
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cuttymcgavin

Does the sniper mastery increase 5% chance on retaliation artifacts, or relentless, curing etc?

Yes. The skill states "Increases the chances of placing any debuff from Skills or Artifacts by 5%" 

Sep 16, 2021, 14:0209/16/21
10/15/20
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harleQuinn

Yes. The skill states "Increases the chances of placing any debuff from Skills or Artifacts by 5%" 

I don't think that is a 100% accurate answer. The effects from Retaliation (counterattack) or Relentless (extra turn) are not considered as debuffs, so Sniper shouldn't have any influence on them.

Sep 16, 2021, 16:2309/16/21
04/08/20
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Skadi

I don't think that is a 100% accurate answer. The effects from Retaliation (counterattack) or Relentless (extra turn) are not considered as debuffs, so Sniper shouldn't have any influence on them.

This is what I was thinking as well, that those artifacts are not debuffs, does any moderator know for sure?

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 16, 2021, 18:4509/16/21
02/24/19
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cuttymcgavin

This is what I was thinking as well, that those artifacts are not debuffs, does any moderator know for sure?

It's only for debuffs, Skadi is correct. If a set applies a debuff, then it will apply to the set. This was early for me, please forgive my automatic response.

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 16, 2021, 18:4609/16/21
Sep 16, 2021, 18:49(edited)
02/24/19
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Skadi

I don't think that is a 100% accurate answer. The effects from Retaliation (counterattack) or Relentless (extra turn) are not considered as debuffs, so Sniper shouldn't have any influence on them.

Thanks for fixing me! <3

Closing the 2019 necro anyways.

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