Nah. its just a bunch of crap RNG items, and no champs. Don't see the point.

Pointless, worthless. It isn't worth a bean aka i wont pay a cent for this.

Trash

Check Sarina's Post. Forge can be completed free.

Pass for me.

Passing as well. I am seeing 10 to 20pct take rate in classic refreshes, probably indicative of general population. My gold3 tag refreshes are 30 to 40% so far. Small sample sizes, but for the first few hours it seems to be doing fairly well. I would expect the numbers to end up closer to 30pct and 50 to 60%.

And no, there is no rationale behind my using both pct and %... 

How do you access the forge pass and the associated quests?  I go to forge and click on materials associated with it and is says forge pass is inactive, but news says it is active...

Me too. I do not yet have it either. A bug they are currently looking into, I am told.

Very dissapointed in the pass. No skins, no avatars, no shards, and no champs.  Just doesn't stack up to any other games' Battlepass.  Ya, I know they are calling it a forge pass but it looks and functions like every other battlepass out there, except it is just a poor value. Seriously things like skins and avatars are really low hanging fruit.

I have dropped to Silver III.  

Will all the activity help to rebalance Arena?

i dont get the idea behind this pass. even if id buy it, there is still only one actual reward for all this effort month long - set. and this set really worth it? yeah, its double effect, but... its still just a set. still a common 4-piece, you still need to find 4 with not-so-garbage stats to actually use it. so whats the point? i would understand better if this set would be 2-piece, but its not.

At the end of the day, the rewards are a bit meh, but you can get a bunch of them for free with minimum effort.

So while no way in hell would i buy the pass, it is still more free stuff for people who ignore the paid option.

By the way- why do plarium think chaos ore is so much better than it is?

Chaos Ore potentially removes a pretty large amount of farming, so I can see why they'd value it so high.

Some quick back-of-the-envelope math:

Farming Dragon 20, you get a 27% chance to get a 6-star item and a 7.5% chance to get a legendary item. Dragon drops nine different sets of items, and there are six item slots.

So, suppose you were explicitly farming for 6* Legendary Speed-set Boots. You would have 0.27 * 0.075 * 1/9 * 1/6 = 0.000375 = 0.0375% chance of getting it to drop. Put another way, you would get on average one every 2666 dragon runs. That translates into roughly 42666 energy, or about 328 full energy refills.

Each refill is valued at $0.95 USD, so 328 refills is worth $312. I don't know how much they sell Chaos Ore for, but I would imagine it's significantly less than that. Hence the high value of it.

Also, from a somewhat more depressing perspective - if each dragon run took 3 minutes to run, a single chaos ore would save you 133 hours of in-game playtime.

But the chance of getting those 6 star lego speed boots when you use ore is still low.

It probably will not roll speed primary stats, and then it will more often than not roll poor substats.

I know- raid is all about rng, but the odds of a chaos ore getting me something useful are low, and i preferred getting books.

If you could control - 'reroll just substats', or just reroll primary stats, then yes it would have a value for me, but right now the odds of something useful are too low.

We (myself included) do not comprehend the value of chaos ore because we are not BOTH endgame and whales.  I didn't check krams math, but the concept is 100pct on point. 

Sure, it's low, but essentially you're saying "instead of doing 2666 dragon runs, I'll just use one chaos ore on a speed set lego boot I already have".

If it rolls badly, it's the exact same outcome as if, after those 2666 dragon runs, you got that same bad item.

Yep. And we're not guaranteed any legendary speed set boots at any point, not matter how many sets of 2666 dragon runs we do. I STILL do not have any 6 star leggos, after all this time., and only a single Epic pair.

...perhaps I need to finally start spending, but on energy to farm Dragon like Trips says to....

"not guaranteed", I assume you meant?

What do you mean, that's what I said! XD XD

Kidding of course. Thanks Krama :D

But during those 2666 dragon runs i will also pick up a bunch of other useful gear and silver and shards :)

Maybe as trips said it is because i am ftp that i do not get it- its books i most want.