This also isnt just me, The friend that got me into the game is in the same boat. He plays on mobile though so i dont think hes refreshing every 15 minutes, Hes a way of the gold tier mission. But he cant stay in silver 3 or 4 for long.

Feel free to post your roster here. I'm sure we can come up with teams that will let you at least get to early gold.

I  wonder  if  those  challenges  just  end  after  that?  In  challenges  im  on  3/3  arena,  5/5  on  others  and  9/10  on  artifacts.  Theres  not  much  after  those.  4  60's,  4  with  5  or  6*  gear,  gold  arena.  What  would  you  do  in  those  categories  after  that?  Might  be  the  end  of  the  road  for  challenges.  I  figured  id  just  never  get  to  gold.  Sounds  like  youre  close  though.  Time  to  nitpick  over  substats,  speed  tune  and  make  sure  youve  got  some  angle  other  than  just  trying  to  overpower  everything.  

I have Minaya, Scyl of the Drakes, Shaman, Fayne and Elhain on 60. Ninja, Cilian the Lucky, Ursala the Mourner, Nazana, Dark Elhain, Dark Athel, High Khutan, Athel, Simp1e on level 50. Im working on building doomscreech cause i saw he was good and same with Khutan. I also have Lordly Legionary, Seeker, Drake, Evisirator, Rowan, Infernal Baroness, Bonekeeper, Galek, Fodbor the Bard and Captain Temila, Their ranging from 40 or lower.

I can post any other details you might find useful too

Forgot to quote you with that response

I'd recommend posting your full roster as a screenshot, simply because there may be champs you are unaware would be good.

Especially important would be knowing if you have a second champ with speed boost - someone like Apothecary, or better yet, someone like Gorgorab or Deacon Armstrong.

I had a look online, As soon as i get relickeeper and into the next 60 or 70 i think i have to keep going through the gold tiers pretty regularly which sucks. I have all the stuff for relickeeper so thats boosting my player power which might be affecting my matchmaking? Im not sure though cause each refresh top 2 are below my power, Then everyone else is between 20k-100k over. But even then, The ones below can still kick my backside

Arena team power is not what you think it is. Whether you are higher or lower than them does not, on its own, mean anything.

Ok  it  is  the  missions  not  the  challenges.  They  eventually  want  gold  arena  too.

Makes sense as to why i can sometimes beat a 100k team.

Heres my champs, Let me know if you want me on specific ones or anything

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I think im on them too, I have been for awhile i just forgot about them cause i was like "ill NEVER get there"

You have a bad arena comp, with bad gear.  You need a new arena team and better gear.

• 12.3 Brutal
• Dragon 20

That should keep you busy until March

1. HK, 2. Seeker (50 is fine), 3.Warmaiden or Aleks, 4. Elhain

What gear am i looking for? Mainly speed, Accuracy and Crit rate for the boots, Chest and gauntlets?

Im using hell hades as a reference for pvp masteries, That solid or no?

Speed speed speed and more speed gear.

I like Deadwood better as he comes at it from a normal person veiw IMO, where HH is all about whaling IMO.

Got nothing to add on Trips comments.

As for your last questions - HK and Seeker pretty much only care about speed. Warmaiden needs enough speed to act right after the prior two, and enough accuracy to land her debuffs (200+). Elhain needs a tad less speed than Warmaiden, but still enough to avoid a cut-in, and then beyond that, straight damage gear - aim for 100% CR, ~150% CD, and ~4K ATK at least.

Hellhades should be fine for masteries. Honestly, they won't affect your arena team that much.

So just fully decked out in as much speed as possible?

I can see that, Havent looked at Deawood, Ive just followed as close as i can with HH with the website gear and masteries reccomendations etc. But ill check him out anyway

Ok sounds good. It will take awhile to get there but ill get on it. Ill probably come back here if i have anymore questions but i should be busy now. Thanks dude!

One last comment - check out the arena calculator on Deadwoodjedi. It'll let you know exactly what those speeds you need are.

Oh cool ok, will do! 

What masteries do you have for your buffers/ nukers? 

Also have you been buying those packs that sell artifacts in the market ? From what you're saying it seems like silver IV is a very generous tier for you to be in right now. 

The thing that confuses me is that you have two really good legendaries and 3 nice damagers but you seem to be struggling...

Have you worked on any masteries? Btw I'm only gold 2 wavering gold 3 my team isn't amazing either.