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Do fusion summons reset the mercy system?

Do fusion summons reset the mercy system?

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22 янв. 2022, 01:3522.01.22
13.11.19
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Do fusion summons reset the mercy system?

I've played Raid for about 3 years now and the only legendary voids I have are Wurlim, Arbiter, Visix and Vlad the Nightborn.  None of these are from shards.  

By fusing Vlad, did I reset my mercy system on void legendary?

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22 янв. 2022, 02:1522.01.22
08.07.19
286

no, the mercy system only takes champions summoned from shards into account. fusions, fragment summons, and in-game rewards don't affect it.

22 янв. 2022, 02:3322.01.22
13.11.19
2

I must just have bad luck then.

23 янв. 2022, 00:1923.01.22
12.04.21
397
Cuuthulos

I must just have bad luck then.

or the whole thing is fake news, not able to be monitored or enforced

23 янв. 2022, 01:2123.01.22
20.06.19
934
horsemen

or the whole thing is fake news, not able to be monitored or enforced

Easy to monitor.  All you have to do is pay attention to what you open and, of course, you have to be able to count.  I've opened 10 ancients since my last leggo, 139 voids, and 5 sacreds.

I get if you don't care to make notes b/c it's a pain in your arse.  I get that and respect it.  But your laziness is no excuss for claiming it's fake.  I've been keeping records for over a year and never hit the end of mercy.  And I don't no a single person that has.  Not a single one.

23 янв. 2022, 01:3123.01.22
12.04.21
397

not sure what you mean by end of mercy

I do not get enough to count

and do you know everyone in the game who is counting

and who cares, I don't

harleQuinnModerator
23 янв. 2022, 01:4623.01.22
24.02.19
2606

Pisces is correct. Fusions do not reset your mercy.

Sorry you are still looking for your first Void leggo. 😔 Hopefully you snag one soon. 👍

23 янв. 2022, 06:0123.01.22
17.07.21
86
harleQuinn

Pisces is correct. Fusions do not reset your mercy.

Sorry you are still looking for your first Void leggo. 😔 Hopefully you snag one soon. 👍

My first Void Lego since august 2019 is Visix from daily rewards and Arbiter from Missions...as you can see, not even a single pulled void lego, never-ever - so, no i dont have bad luck, how can be bad when cannot compare it, since never have good luck...so what must say to this man is, that Void lego are not free content and are not for f2p players and even one of them can cost him more than 2 years...And more, when you ask Plarium support where are you in this Mercy system counter, the answer is that "this is internal informaction"...i personaly just pull all my void shards yesterday and get same bunch of rare duplicates nmad a few Sacred - same result, from nearly 700 heroes - 3 dupes epics....really cannot see the point even to continue with this fussion...or the game...im sure that i hit mercy counter and ....nothing....

harleQuinnModerator
23 янв. 2022, 06:2523.01.22
24.02.19
2606
lordikarium

My first Void Lego since august 2019 is Visix from daily rewards and Arbiter from Missions...as you can see, not even a single pulled void lego, never-ever - so, no i dont have bad luck, how can be bad when cannot compare it, since never have good luck...so what must say to this man is, that Void lego are not free content and are not for f2p players and even one of them can cost him more than 2 years...And more, when you ask Plarium support where are you in this Mercy system counter, the answer is that "this is internal informaction"...i personaly just pull all my void shards yesterday and get same bunch of rare duplicates nmad a few Sacred - same result, from nearly 700 heroes - 3 dupes epics....really cannot see the point even to continue with this fussion...or the game...im sure that i hit mercy counter and ....nothing....

I am sorry you are still looking for a Void Legendary. Last time you posted your roster two months ago, you were looking for help on two key UNM Clan Boss. It takes a LOT of time to get a Void leggo if you are not getting top chests x2 on UNM, NM and Brutal every day. You need TONS of void shards, since the chance to pull one is only 0.5% regularly, and only 1% during 2x. 

I hope you can get one soon, but you'll definitely have to stop pulling Voids during fusions/fragments when it isn't 2x, which you said in your last thread you did. You have to maximize your chances. To qoute your the first reponse on your previous thread from just a bit ago:

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Even so lordikarium, your account looks like it is getting stronger, and if you've now been getting top chest UNM x2 every day, top chest NM x2 every day, and top chest Brutal x2 every day, it should be only a matter of time before you stack up Void shards. Only pull those on 2x events, and you should have your void leggo at some point, it is only a matter of time.


23 янв. 2022, 06:4223.01.22
17.07.21
86
harleQuinn

I am sorry you are still looking for a Void Legendary. Last time you posted your roster two months ago, you were looking for help on two key UNM Clan Boss. It takes a LOT of time to get a Void leggo if you are not getting top chests x2 on UNM, NM and Brutal every day. You need TONS of void shards, since the chance to pull one is only 0.5% regularly, and only 1% during 2x. 

I hope you can get one soon, but you'll definitely have to stop pulling Voids during fusions/fragments when it isn't 2x, which you said in your last thread you did. You have to maximize your chances. To qoute your the first reponse on your previous thread from just a bit ago:

i

Even so lordikarium, your account looks like it is getting stronger, and if you've now been getting top chest UNM x2 every day, top chest NM x2 every day, and top chest Brutal x2 every day, it should be only a matter of time before you stack up Void shards. Only pull those on 2x events, and you should have your void leggo at some point, it is only a matter of time.


tired already....2 years pulls...2 years and 4 months really...dont feel the thrill already....my girls play since June 2019 - she too get absolutelly NOTHING from Void shard and just recently get shes first Coldheart...at least she has Sees, so can progress trough DT, but aniway, we 2 are trully disapointed by Void shard, void pulls, void chances....i know well, that they are harder to get...but 2 years are too much....

dthorne04Moderator
23 янв. 2022, 07:1523.01.22
30.12.20
1007
lordikarium

tired already....2 years pulls...2 years and 4 months really...dont feel the thrill already....my girls play since June 2019 - she too get absolutelly NOTHING from Void shard and just recently get shes first Coldheart...at least she has Sees, so can progress trough DT, but aniway, we 2 are trully disapointed by Void shard, void pulls, void chances....i know well, that they are harder to get...but 2 years are too much....

On one hand I honestly understand your frustration. I'm nearing 14 months in, downing UNM/NM since early fall 2021 and I still have not pulled a void legendary. No Seer either. And like the last few times, all I (or anyone trying to help you) can do is try to offer you solid advice. Open during 2x only. Save your voids. However, I don't know what updates your roster has seen since this post: https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/598035_advices-for-assembling-a-team-for-unm-cb/

I think you're too focused on the things you could have in the game, or you wish you could have versus the things you have now, or could have earned with proper resource management. Just in the past year champions that could've helped you like Brago, Brogni, Tatura, Demytha were attainable in fusions. That requires one to save and put in the time, but then we have guaranteed champions that are good in a variety of content, and in this case Clan Boss, which would help you get even more shards.

Your account is objectively quite strong and could get even stronger if you follow the advice laid out. Are you utilizing what Trips listed for gaining more void shards/resources? Did you try out the team laid out for you by kramas, or some variation on it? Off the top of my head, some combination of these champions from that time could get you at least top chest from UNM every day, and perhaps one of the best (if not best) chests from NM.

Tyrant, Rhazin, Geomancer, Doompriest (as stun cleanser), Toragi, Tayrel, Fahrakin, Vogoth, Ninja, Scabrius, Jareg, Sandlashed, among others.

If what you want to do in the game is open shards just to get specific champions or specific types of champions, you are likely going to be disappointed. If your goal is to progress in content, build good teams and beat content in general, then you should consider changing your outlook on the game, and where and when to open your shards. 

I can't make you enjoy the game or have fun, but I want you to do well and have fun. I'm fairly certain people who've taken the time to offer you well thought out advice do, as well. You have a very strong roster that a lot of players would be envious of and it is capable of beating most of the content in the game, if not all with proper gearing and effort. 

23 янв. 2022, 11:3023.01.22
20.06.19
934
horsemen

not sure what you mean by end of mercy

I do not get enough to count

and do you know everyone in the game who is counting

and who cares, I don't

By end of mercy, I mean the number of shards that a player must open in order to ensure mercy not only kicks in, but you now have a 100% chance to draw a legendary.  If you hit the end of mercy, and have not pulled a legendary, that would be the only way state that the system is "fake."

I do not know what you mean by not getting enough to count? Are you saying you don't know how to count unless you have at least a certain minimum?  LOL.  Anyway, saying it's fake and there is no way to monitor or enforce the system on the one hand, and pretty much admitting that it would be pointless to do so b/c you don't have enough, is pretty much jibber jabber.

Please, anyone in the game who is counting, and has hit the end of mercy withot drawing a legendary, take the opportunity to inform us.  See how that works.  I don't have to know everyone in the game.  I just have to give everyone in the game the opportunity to inform us.

23 янв. 2022, 11:4223.01.22
20.06.19
934
lordikarium

My first Void Lego since august 2019 is Visix from daily rewards and Arbiter from Missions...as you can see, not even a single pulled void lego, never-ever - so, no i dont have bad luck, how can be bad when cannot compare it, since never have good luck...so what must say to this man is, that Void lego are not free content and are not for f2p players and even one of them can cost him more than 2 years...And more, when you ask Plarium support where are you in this Mercy system counter, the answer is that "this is internal informaction"...i personaly just pull all my void shards yesterday and get same bunch of rare duplicates nmad a few Sacred - same result, from nearly 700 heroes - 3 dupes epics....really cannot see the point even to continue with this fussion...or the game...im sure that i hit mercy counter and ....nothing....

I certainly understand the frustration.  My last void leggo from shard was a dup visix.  And that was the only void leggo I pulled the entire year of 2021.  Keeping track of shards has been informative.  One thing I noticed is just the small number of voids I actually opened compared to ancients.  998 ancients in 2021, compared with 299 voids.  That helps me deal with the frustration b/c I can see I'm not being cheated.  I may be a little behind the odds at this point, but it's a numbers game.  Before I started keeping track, I'd frequenstly 'feel' like I must have hit mercy.  But it's painfully obvious to me now that this feeling is compounded by the fact that it takes nearly a years worh of void shards to do so, and that's if your doing double chests on NM and UNM.

23 янв. 2022, 13:5023.01.22
17.07.21
86
dthorne04

On one hand I honestly understand your frustration. I'm nearing 14 months in, downing UNM/NM since early fall 2021 and I still have not pulled a void legendary. No Seer either. And like the last few times, all I (or anyone trying to help you) can do is try to offer you solid advice. Open during 2x only. Save your voids. However, I don't know what updates your roster has seen since this post: https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/598035_advices-for-assembling-a-team-for-unm-cb/

I think you're too focused on the things you could have in the game, or you wish you could have versus the things you have now, or could have earned with proper resource management. Just in the past year champions that could've helped you like Brago, Brogni, Tatura, Demytha were attainable in fusions. That requires one to save and put in the time, but then we have guaranteed champions that are good in a variety of content, and in this case Clan Boss, which would help you get even more shards.

Your account is objectively quite strong and could get even stronger if you follow the advice laid out. Are you utilizing what Trips listed for gaining more void shards/resources? Did you try out the team laid out for you by kramas, or some variation on it? Off the top of my head, some combination of these champions from that time could get you at least top chest from UNM every day, and perhaps one of the best (if not best) chests from NM.

Tyrant, Rhazin, Geomancer, Doompriest (as stun cleanser), Toragi, Tayrel, Fahrakin, Vogoth, Ninja, Scabrius, Jareg, Sandlashed, among others.

If what you want to do in the game is open shards just to get specific champions or specific types of champions, you are likely going to be disappointed. If your goal is to progress in content, build good teams and beat content in general, then you should consider changing your outlook on the game, and where and when to open your shards. 

I can't make you enjoy the game or have fun, but I want you to do well and have fun. I'm fairly certain people who've taken the time to offer you well thought out advice do, as well. You have a very strong roster that a lot of players would be envious of and it is capable of beating most of the content in the game, if not all with proper gearing and effort. 

no need someone to say me to be happy with i have, im already happy with it....post is about what i dont have - no void lego, no aoe cs, no unkillable...bad luck...well, seem this bad luck is only for f2p and low-spenders....

23 янв. 2022, 13:5223.01.22
23 янв. 2022, 13:54(отредактировано)
17.07.21
86
Angwil

I certainly understand the frustration.  My last void leggo from shard was a dup visix.  And that was the only void leggo I pulled the entire year of 2021.  Keeping track of shards has been informative.  One thing I noticed is just the small number of voids I actually opened compared to ancients.  998 ancients in 2021, compared with 299 voids.  That helps me deal with the frustration b/c I can see I'm not being cheated.  I may be a little behind the odds at this point, but it's a numbers game.  Before I started keeping track, I'd frequenstly 'feel' like I must have hit mercy.  But it's painfully obvious to me now that this feeling is compounded by the fact that it takes nearly a years worh of void shards to do so, and that's if your doing double chests on NM and UNM.

nope, if i get Visix after such waiting, i will just uninstall the game and never play something from Plarium again...and aniway, when i start play there was a counter, so i never counted shards i pull...and now dont know where am i...Plarium support say, they cannot provide such info because it is "internal", wich i personally already feel insulting to any reason...

23 янв. 2022, 14:4623.01.22
20.06.19
934

Thats' you choice to quit.  Good luck in whatever you do. But the fact that you refuse to accept the published odds is just sour grapes.

harleQuinnModerator
23 янв. 2022, 20:4323.01.22
24.02.19
2606
dthorne04

On one hand I honestly understand your frustration. I'm nearing 14 months in, downing UNM/NM since early fall 2021 and I still have not pulled a void legendary. No Seer either. And like the last few times, all I (or anyone trying to help you) can do is try to offer you solid advice. Open during 2x only. Save your voids. However, I don't know what updates your roster has seen since this post: https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/598035_advices-for-assembling-a-team-for-unm-cb/

I think you're too focused on the things you could have in the game, or you wish you could have versus the things you have now, or could have earned with proper resource management. Just in the past year champions that could've helped you like Brago, Brogni, Tatura, Demytha were attainable in fusions. That requires one to save and put in the time, but then we have guaranteed champions that are good in a variety of content, and in this case Clan Boss, which would help you get even more shards.

Your account is objectively quite strong and could get even stronger if you follow the advice laid out. Are you utilizing what Trips listed for gaining more void shards/resources? Did you try out the team laid out for you by kramas, or some variation on it? Off the top of my head, some combination of these champions from that time could get you at least top chest from UNM every day, and perhaps one of the best (if not best) chests from NM.

Tyrant, Rhazin, Geomancer, Doompriest (as stun cleanser), Toragi, Tayrel, Fahrakin, Vogoth, Ninja, Scabrius, Jareg, Sandlashed, among others.

If what you want to do in the game is open shards just to get specific champions or specific types of champions, you are likely going to be disappointed. If your goal is to progress in content, build good teams and beat content in general, then you should consider changing your outlook on the game, and where and when to open your shards. 

I can't make you enjoy the game or have fun, but I want you to do well and have fun. I'm fairly certain people who've taken the time to offer you well thought out advice do, as well. You have a very strong roster that a lot of players would be envious of and it is capable of beating most of the content in the game, if not all with proper gearing and effort. 

This is well said. Very well said.

To break down a small piece of this here, lordikarium, your roster includes an Heiress and a Seeker. Had you paritipated in the 4.70 fusion and gotten Demytha, only 1/4 epics, you could have an Unkillable team RIGHT NOW. 

Demytha is amazing. Kreela is amazing. Brogni is amazing. Iron Brago is amazing. Tatura is amazing. You have to jump at those opportunities rather than pull at 0.5-1% odds in hopes of some void leggo. And those are just fusions! I use the mission champs and DT champs like Archmage Hellmut, Arbiter and Lydia everywhere!

But that's just how I built my account, on fusions and free champs. Everyone's mileage may vary.

24 янв. 2022, 08:5424.01.22
24 янв. 2022, 08:55(отредактировано)
17.07.21
86
Angwil

Thats' you choice to quit.  Good luck in whatever you do. But the fact that you refuse to accept the published odds is just sour grapes.

there is no way to check the odds, neither results...because Plarium decide to remove any counter and now no one know where is in Mercy system...so, what if i claim that this system do not work at all (wich is normal, it never work for me)...because when i start there was a counter, so i do not write shards pull on paper...and i personaly think i pull more shards than needed (well, i cannot be sure really, but why to botter myself, when this guys CAN check it)...so basically, what i need is a SIMPLE SHARD COUNTER just to know where am i and if i pay for some shards what will happen...did i need so much? 

24 янв. 2022, 08:5624.01.22
24 янв. 2022, 08:57(отредактировано)
17.07.21
86
harleQuinn

This is well said. Very well said.

To break down a small piece of this here, lordikarium, your roster includes an Heiress and a Seeker. Had you paritipated in the 4.70 fusion and gotten Demytha, only 1/4 epics, you could have an Unkillable team RIGHT NOW. 

Demytha is amazing. Kreela is amazing. Brogni is amazing. Iron Brago is amazing. Tatura is amazing. You have to jump at those opportunities rather than pull at 0.5-1% odds in hopes of some void leggo. And those are just fusions! I use the mission champs and DT champs like Archmage Hellmut, Arbiter and Lydia everywhere!

But that's just how I built my account, on fusions and free champs. Everyone's mileage may vary.

You see my roster....you know i dont have Demytha, because Plarium pay-walled it...nor Kreela, Brago and no Brogni...so no CS and no Unkillable....

24 янв. 2022, 08:5824.01.22
20.06.19
934
lordikarium

there is no way to check the odds, neither results...because Plarium decide to remove any counter and now no one know where is in Mercy system...so, what if i claim that this system do not work at all (wich is normal, it never work for me)...because when i start there was a counter, so i do not write shards pull on paper...and i personaly think i pull more shards than needed (well, i cannot be sure really, but why to botter myself, when this guys CAN check it)...so basically, what i need is a SIMPLE SHARD COUNTER just to know where am i and if i pay for some shards what will happen...did i need so much? 

No way to check the odds?  LMAO!

24 янв. 2022, 09:0524.01.22
17.07.21
86
Angwil

No way to check the odds?  LMAO!

how can check something wich never happen to me...because of this there was a counter...it can measure thing, odds and man can see results...now there is no such a thing, so i must believe...im not man of faith, i need proove....