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Feb 9, 2022, 05:1702/09/22
05/08/17
54

Why I am fazing out of the game

Already for a while I learned that the event checkpoints of the league of Asgard were beyond me. I just don't have the time to spend so much extra time to the game to complete the events. So I cheered the fact that Plarium was reassigning personal leagues. It would enable me to raise my level without ending up in the league of Asgard. Imagine my surprise after upgrading when I saw the checkpoints for 'fighting invaders' event in the new league of Odin. It looks like this league got the conditions of the previous league of Asgard, and league of Asgard got even worse. Given the fact that it's all about Rune Coins nowadays, that is a complete turnoff. If you want to be strong, you need town skins, but since those are drifting out of reach, there is no more point in playing.

And it gets worse. These changes also ruined my Northern Brotherhood membership. Since I completed previous checkpoints yesterday, I need to get five today and there is only 'fighting invaders' on, of which only the five highest checkpoints are not completed. That means I'm not going to be able to complete my daily quests because of these changes due to lack of time, which obviously is completely unfair. I honestly would suggest Plarium to compensate because there is no way I could have known these changes were coming nor what they would implement, in which case I would never have bought this membership.

Now I hear you say 'do it in one shot kills'. Fast and easy. Obviously the rewards for one shots are not worth the effort. It's basically just a waste of energy, especially if your enemy is already out of reach during cvc. Moreover, if I keep using one shots on ubers and L6s, how am I ever going to get my weapons upgraded with gems? It's already hard enough to get amber and beryl as it is. So no, one-shot kills are no solution. And weapon upgrades are just as important as town skins.

I was on the brink of spending my next 100USD on big rss sets, but since they only offer clan tasks, they are no solution, and no I can't buy everything. If that is what you expect, then this is no longer a free game with in-game purchases. Spending money as a support of such a game is fine. Spending money as a condition for so-called free game is very wrong. I'm fazing out.

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Feb 9, 2022, 12:1502/09/22
06/21/17
1293

I would agree wiith you that any changes they implement are a big problem for those unable, or unwilling to adept to them.

I don't think it is new situation,that it is impossible to finish tasks, because there is nothing running to help complete them.

The quests were always random but with less options its perhaps more noticeable now.

I am surprised by your suggestion that 'one killing'targets means that less gems fall, but I do have a suspicion that gems are less well distributed now, and the necessity of them has increased because of weapons upgrades which miight just be the explanation as to why that is.

Though it is difficult to imagine that the game was ever really free to play, I have to wonder if it still is qualified to state as such.

Feb 9, 2022, 12:4702/09/22
01/11/17
4649

Hi MobyDick! It's important for us to know your opinion on this issue ๐Ÿ™ I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way. Your feedback has been forwarded to our developer team, thank you for your commitment to the game ๐Ÿ™Œ


Feb 9, 2022, 13:1402/09/22
Feb 9, 2022, 13:24(edited)
05/08/17
54
xyz

I would agree wiith you that any changes they implement are a big problem for those unable, or unwilling to adept to them.

I don't think it is new situation,that it is impossible to finish tasks, because there is nothing running to help complete them.

The quests were always random but with less options its perhaps more noticeable now.

I am surprised by your suggestion that 'one killing'targets means that less gems fall, but I do have a suspicion that gems are less well distributed now, and the necessity of them has increased because of weapons upgrades which miight just be the explanation as to why that is.

Though it is difficult to imagine that the game was ever really free to play, I have to wonder if it still is qualified to state as such.

When was the last time you killed an uber or L6 in 41 shots? Go ahead and compare the rewards with what you get in one shot. It's pretty obvious. Start counting the number of each gems levels, not the quantity. And of course, the materials are much lower in level. One shot kills just plainly suck.

Feb 9, 2022, 13:1802/09/22
02/09/22
1

Also the league assignments make it impossible for smaller players to have any chance.  I used to get runic coins for events and that was helping me grow as a new player in an older kingdom (I did not play for years after first sign in).  Now it will be months before I can reach the spot I was at a week ago.  Why would you play in a game with ever changing goal posts.    It is very disheartening to have to work hard to get back to where you were.  What possible reasson other than to extract more cash is there for this change.  Money wasted.  Add me to the group that will now cut way back on my time in the game and would not recommend it to friends.


As an aside one clan in our kingdom has quit playing over this and other changes. They are close to 1/4 of the kingdom influence.  They put long term shields up and left.  I now have the double whammy of no chance in kingdom competitions also.

Feb 9, 2022, 13:3602/09/22
05/08/17
54
Ivar Marksman

Hi MobyDick! It's important for us to know your opinion on this issue ๐Ÿ™ I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way. Your feedback has been forwarded to our developer team, thank you for your commitment to the game ๐Ÿ™Œ


Did you guys ever consider giving rewards to people that give valuable feedback? I think you are well aware I did my share through the years and there are plenty you don't even know of since I commented through my other accounts. Why not give award points that can be turned in for goodies? It would be most welcome.

Feb 9, 2022, 14:2502/09/22
05/08/17
54
Ivar Marksman

Hi MobyDick! It's important for us to know your opinion on this issue ๐Ÿ™ I'm sorry to hear that you feel this way. Your feedback has been forwarded to our developer team, thank you for your commitment to the game ๐Ÿ™Œ


Another suggestion : Did you ever consider putting people in a league based on their amount of influence? Sounds like a better idea than castle level to me.

Feb 10, 2022, 02:0802/10/22
06/21/17
1293
MobyDick

When was the last time you killed an uber or L6 in 41 shots? Go ahead and compare the rewards with what you get in one shot. It's pretty obvious. Start counting the number of each gems levels, not the quantity. And of course, the materials are much lower in level. One shot kills just plainly suck.

First,though it was an ambition of mine,I have never one hit killed an uber, not even on an account which is more advanced than this one ,both of which are unable to target L6's.

Second, it has been a while since this  account killed an Uber, but found it remarkable what I got from doing so,and considered it might be a better way to get the gear I was after.

So unfortunately I can not give you a current cost efficiency as I have no up to date data of Uber drops.

I was genuiningly surprised of your claim that 'less gems fall',which didnt seem to make sense at all, but perhaps that isn't quite what you meant, less quanity isn't the same as less quality.

Feb 10, 2022, 02:2002/10/22
Feb 10, 2022, 02:21(edited)
06/21/17
1293
MobyDick

Another suggestion : Did you ever consider putting people in a league based on their amount of influence? Sounds like a better idea than castle level to me.

The way the leagues have been set up would appear to have never been fair,(though it might suit us as individuals why would we expect that?) and I do not think leagues based on influence would work either.

There ought to be a fairer way, but is there? Perhaps if it was based on time  spent playing you might find yourself continually drawn against your self.

One thing appears to be certain, if you dont keep up with the herd you fall behind, and make it harder to catch up, as the levels they set up are geared towards the more dedicated and faster growing.

Feb 10, 2022, 03:3402/10/22
Feb 10, 2022, 05:54(edited)
05/08/17
54
xyz

The way the leagues have been set up would appear to have never been fair,(though it might suit us as individuals why would we expect that?) and I do not think leagues based on influence would work either.

There ought to be a fairer way, but is there? Perhaps if it was based on time  spent playing you might find yourself continually drawn against your self.

One thing appears to be certain, if you dont keep up with the herd you fall behind, and make it harder to catch up, as the levels they set up are geared towards the more dedicated and faster growing.

I would like to know your motivation why you think 'leagues based on influence wouldn't work either'. If you don't motivate your opinion, it is kind of a useless statement. You may as well say apples should be purple.

Having given it some thought, plarium uses a double ranking in Holmgang based on total clan influence and then on battle result. So a ranking based on palace strength and a subranking for the personal league based on influence makes a lot of sense.  

Feb 10, 2022, 03:3902/10/22
05/08/17
54
xyz

First,though it was an ambition of mine,I have never one hit killed an uber, not even on an account which is more advanced than this one ,both of which are unable to target L6's.

Second, it has been a while since this  account killed an Uber, but found it remarkable what I got from doing so,and considered it might be a better way to get the gear I was after.

So unfortunately I can not give you a current cost efficiency as I have no up to date data of Uber drops.

I was genuiningly surprised of your claim that 'less gems fall',which didnt seem to make sense at all, but perhaps that isn't quite what you meant, less quanity isn't the same as less quality.

You are playing Vikings since 2017 and you can't kill a lvl 6? What are you doing here? Why are you all over the forum? Go and play and get some ingame experience. If I could block your comments it is the first thing I would do right now. 

Feb 10, 2022, 11:1502/10/22
06/21/17
1293
MobyDick

I would like to know your motivation why you think 'leagues based on influence wouldn't work either'. If you don't motivate your opinion, it is kind of a useless statement. You may as well say apples should be purple.

Having given it some thought, plarium uses a double ranking in Holmgang based on total clan influence and then on battle result. So a ranking based on palace strength and a subranking for the personal league based on influence makes a lot of sense.  

Initially you didn't say why you thought leagues should be based on influence so it's a bit unfair to critize me for me not writing why I thought they wouldn't be better, sometimes it isn't necessary at the time to explain why.

If I/somebody were to start a new game and buy resources and train troops I/they could have lots of influence which is one reason why it shouldn't be based on influence.

Feb 10, 2022, 11:3202/10/22
06/21/17
1293
MobyDick

You are playing Vikings since 2017 and you can't kill a lvl 6? What are you doing here? Why are you all over the forum? Go and play and get some ingame experience. If I could block your comments it is the first thing I would do right now. 

Like any other, within the rules, I can play play this game, as I wish. 

 I could just as easily ask  why are you here if you can only play one hour a day,and if you are limited for time, why are you playing alts and not just one account?

Why am all over the forum? Good question.

In some cases things wouldn't get answered if I didn't.

Mostly I only comment on things I know about, so I have the required experience there.

Sometimes it's because I want to understand others point of view, much of which would be of benefit to any new player who is trying to learn.

As I am when I ask  questions about things that are unfamiliar. 

As to why you are phazing out , I would suggest it is because you want them to change the game to suit you personally, which they wont,partly because you keep coming here to complain, saying you are going to quit and  then don't.

Feb 10, 2022, 12:3902/10/22
06/21/17
1293
blue

Also the league assignments make it impossible for smaller players to have any chance.  I used to get runic coins for events and that was helping me grow as a new player in an older kingdom (I did not play for years after first sign in).  Now it will be months before I can reach the spot I was at a week ago.  Why would you play in a game with ever changing goal posts.    It is very disheartening to have to work hard to get back to where you were.  What possible reasson other than to extract more cash is there for this change.  Money wasted.  Add me to the group that will now cut way back on my time in the game and would not recommend it to friends.


As an aside one clan in our kingdom has quit playing over this and other changes. They are close to 1/4 of the kingdom influence.  They put long term shields up and left.  I now have the double whammy of no chance in kingdom competitions also.

Completely agree with your points of view.

To the aside

Whilever there are players willing to stay in the Matrix, they will be to happy to continue on this path, but you can bet sooner or later the machines will find another way to get their energy and turn off the pods or jetison their contents.

Feb 10, 2022, 16:3302/10/22
Feb 10, 2022, 16:34(edited)
05/08/17
54
xyz

Like any other, within the rules, I can play play this game, as I wish. 

 I could just as easily ask  why are you here if you can only play one hour a day,and if you are limited for time, why are you playing alts and not just one account?

Why am all over the forum? Good question.

In some cases things wouldn't get answered if I didn't.

Mostly I only comment on things I know about, so I have the required experience there.

Sometimes it's because I want to understand others point of view, much of which would be of benefit to any new player who is trying to learn.

As I am when I ask  questions about things that are unfamiliar. 

As to why you are phazing out , I would suggest it is because you want them to change the game to suit you personally, which they wont,partly because you keep coming here to complain, saying you are going to quit and  then don't.

Obviously you don't know this, but I have found my displeasure with changes in this game has often lead to improvements. I have been sending advice to Plarium since the first year I played, when shamans were introduced. There already some of my ideas were implemented. Obviously you don't know me but I am a product designer myself. I have quite some knowledge about what can go wrong. My signal that I would be fazing out is real, and it is not the first time that I would disappear from the game for a year. And after that year they finally understood and fixed the problem. So you may suggest it is about he game suiting me personally, I clearly have much more knowledge and insight in this game than you since you never got past your first lvl 6 invader. Basically it means your opinions arent worth my attention, so this is the last you will hear from me.

Feb 12, 2022, 10:4302/12/22
03/26/21
39

We have/had Palace 40s in our clan, since the new checkpoints came out they are quitting the game. Which sucks because the bigs were holding the clan together. They posted in our line group the checkpoints needed to max invader/ghost events which sucks. 760 level 6 ghosts needed to max the upcoming event wtaf. You are taking advantage of the players that have spent the most money on this game, and now you ask for more. shame on you 

Feb 12, 2022, 18:1002/12/22
01/11/17
4649
welsh/scot

We have/had Palace 40s in our clan, since the new checkpoints came out they are quitting the game. Which sucks because the bigs were holding the clan together. They posted in our line group the checkpoints needed to max invader/ghost events which sucks. 760 level 6 ghosts needed to max the upcoming event wtaf. You are taking advantage of the players that have spent the most money on this game, and now you ask for more. shame on you 

I am sorry that the recent changes did not satisfy you, welsh/scot. This feedback has been forwarded to our specialists for the further consideration๐Ÿ™

I hope that our future updates will meet your expectations๐Ÿ˜‡

Feb 13, 2022, 09:5902/13/22
03/26/21
39

Hi Ivar any future updates will not help the players who have left already๐Ÿ™ Can i ask for a level 40 palace 30,000,000,000 points needed the max training event, that is 300,000,000 T7. My question is, why so high? Palace 40s who would normaly max events, are lucky to get to checkpoint 5 now. Anyway we are both going to lose in the end, we lost our big players you will lose thier money.  I am only a small player but i can see the game is becoming less fun, more like a chore that you have to pay to do. I wish i knew how this can be fixed 


Feb 13, 2022, 13:2102/13/22
06/21/17
1293

Any future updates, unless they go into reverse mode, will just continue to worsen the situation.

Feb 16, 2022, 13:5102/16/22
06/21/17
1293

 Some one above(ukerekais) copied my message, and at first reading posted a legitmate answer . 

Shortly afterwards, I now find a spam link has been added.

Also, not only do we get spam messsages here, but we are now being sent spam as personal messages.

Feb 28, 2022, 00:5902/28/22
02/24/17
1

My kingdom was fine until a large clan moved in and wants everyone else to move out. We can not yield without domain guards and can not do a stronghold siege during CvC without them attacking us and giving us negative reputes. Negative reputes are constsnt! There will be a lot of players quiting the game because of them. I know you are going to say "this is part of the game" but it is more like cyber bullying! You will sugest that I move to another kingdom. I don't want to leave a stronghold behind that I have spent a small fortune on. This clan is ruining the game for so many players.