Powerpoints not working?

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iser
1 November, 2017, 2:00 PM UTC

You can see the mission. For both the clan event and personal events I have selected go. 

I find a target with enough troops to score a lots of powerpoint and points in the clan mission "destroy enemy troops"



I engage in battle and win:



But the result sucks both events only receive  1 point




1 point that means I have to raid bases like that 100 x in just 2 hours?

We really need a system which tells us how many powerpoints you will gain from engaging a sector, really I wasted my troops for nothing
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fakeasnever
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1 November, 2017, 2:32 PM UTC

@Iser (1 November, 2017, 2:00 PM UTC):
The majority of the power there was from Cyborgs.

Since Cyborgs don't contribute PvP points, they aren't counted in the troop power mission either, so your 1 point came from killing the 3 Cyberdogs.

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iser
1 November, 2017, 3:01 PM UTC

That's why they hide their good fighters in the bunker. In the area outside my sector everyone is hiding their troops in the bunker. Any why to get the troops in the bunker?

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fakeasnever
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2 November, 2017, 11:11 AM UTC

@Iser (1 November, 2017, 3:01 PM UTC):
Well I suppose you could ask nicely.

Aside from that, not really.

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BiohazarD
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3 November, 2017, 2:54 AM UTC
iser said:

That's why they hide their good fighters in the bunker. In the area outside my sector everyone is hiding their troops in the bunker. Any why to get the troops in the bunker?

Go hit players in a high ranked clan, you'll get pvp one way or another, either by hitting their troops or when they hit you back :P
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Shubs
15 November, 2017, 5:19 AM UTC

fakeasnever said:


@Iser (1 November, 2017, 2:00 PM UTC):
The majority of the power there was from Cyborgs.

Since Cyborgs don't contribute PvP points, they aren't counted in the troop power mission either, so your 1 point came from killing the 3 Cyberdogs.

Well, I guess, we missed the point here. Whether the points from Cyborg or the DOG kills get rewarded/accumulated or not, screenshot attached herewith by ISER, shows 9 event/Offense points.

The difference is, me thinks, "consideration of points earned" for Events/XP/Offensive rankings are calculated different way than Personal/Clan tasks.

Latter, gets you points only from the real unit kills and not from Cyborgs. Though "Cyborg kills" do affect your offense points.


Correct me if i'm wrong, FakeAsNever.



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fakeasnever
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15 November, 2017, 11:52 AM UTC

@Shubs (15 November, 2017, 5:19 AM UTC):
Troop power points and offence/defence/experience points calculation different, yes (Pretty undeniable). However, I'm not entirely certain of the numbers at yet, so I won't share any numbers right now.

However, I still don't think that Cyborgs give anything to the other player. (I haven't attacked had any Cyborg-only battles, but I do believe I saw a screenshot of BiohazarD killing off a couple hundred of them, and getting nothing in return.) So perhaps it's changed, but I doubt it, nor have I really been able to test that.

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Shubs
16 November, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC

fakeasnever said:


@Shubs (15 November, 2017, 5:19 AM UTC):
Troop power points and offence/defence/experience points calculation different, yes (Pretty undeniable). However, I'm not entirely certain of the numbers at yet, so I won't share any numbers right now.

However, I still don't think that Cyborgs give anything to the other player. (I haven't attacked had any Cyborg-only battles, but I do believe I saw a screenshot of BiohazarD killing off a couple hundred of them, and getting nothing in return.) So perhaps it's changed, but I doubt it, nor have I really been able to test that.

Partially correct and I can''t agree more on this. 

Just a slight difference: Few bot lines have 50 cyborgs as default protection. If you attack them (raid/invade), report will give you XP + Offense points which for sure are a result of Cyborg kills. In PvP, cyborgs do not count and even HQ/E attacks. Thats what I have observed. Probably, calculations have changed a bit.

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fakeasnever
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16 November, 2017, 5:12 PM UTC

@Shubs (16 November, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC):
Possibly. I haven't found any bots with Cyborgs, though, but I'll post an update here once I do.

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Shubs
25 November, 2017, 12:09 PM UTC

fakeasnever said:


@Shubs (16 November, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC):
Possibly. I haven't found any bots with Cyborgs, though, but I'll post an update here once I do.

Down south, there's a bot line of level 66. 

Moreover, what I have observed, as the server ages, bot lines level up too and whenever they level up, approx 50 cyborgs pop up as default. 

Therefore, watchout for bot lines which are L54-L56, soon they'll be 66 and cyborgs should show up. Laters, as and when possible, shall send you coords for such sectors.

For us to find the actual facts about Cyborg-points, I guess. Time will tell.


-Shubs
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BiohazarD
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27 November, 2017, 7:31 PM UTC
fakeasnever said:

@Shubs (16 November, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC):
Possibly. I haven't found any bots with Cyborgs, though, but I'll post an update here once I do.

It could just be players sending cyborgs to the bots to see who is raiding them.  
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Shubs
28 November, 2017, 10:43 AM UTC
BiohazarD said:

fakeasnever said:

@Shubs (16 November, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC):
Possibly. I haven't found any bots with Cyborgs, though, but I'll post an update here once I do.

It could just be players sending cyborgs to the bots to see who is raiding them.  
Initially, that was my thought, too, however, when I reconned a series of those sectors, all of them having exact count of 50 cyborgs !! Coincidence? I think NOT.
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BiohazarD
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29 November, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC
Shubs said:

BiohazarD said:

fakeasnever said:

@Shubs (16 November, 2017, 1:18 PM UTC):
Possibly. I haven't found any bots with Cyborgs, though, but I'll post an update here once I do.

It could just be players sending cyborgs to the bots to see who is raiding them.  
Initially, that was my thought, too, however, when I reconned a series of those sectors, all of them having exact count of 50 cyborgs !! Coincidence? I think NOT.
Interesting. I guess we'll know for sure if we find somebody with like 500k cyborgs sent to their sector :P
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