All about infests

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fakeasnever
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26 February, 2015, 10:57 PM UTC

@BiohazarD (26 February, 2015, 7:24 PM UTC):
ANd what's 1%? 1M resources?   :/

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BiohazarD
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26 February, 2015, 11:04 PM UTC

usually about 1.2 mil, but yeah

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Saad Malik
27 February, 2015, 10:04 AM UTC

and what if we put more resources in a site than required amount?

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Maniakaal
27 February, 2015, 11:56 AM UTC

Saad Malik said:

and what if we put more resources in a site than required amount?

 

If it's a little more loaded then you will get a combined reward: Troops + resources

If it's a lot more, you can get a lot more troops then normally given to that type of level.

or. You could get 2 pay outs after eachother

 

Don't know the exact figures when what happens, i had them all 3 true time

 

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Maniakaal
4 March, 2015, 9:33 PM UTC

leo.davi said:

tcb5eybc

What is this? Your password?

 

 

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Smar2
5 March, 2015, 4:35 PM UTC

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

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Maniakaal
5 March, 2015, 4:56 PM UTC

Smar2 said:

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

You can not win elite unit or fleets. But you can lose them when attacking, and those count for banking.

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BiohazarD
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5 March, 2015, 6:17 PM UTC

Maniakaal said:

Smar2 said:

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

You can not win elite unit or fleets. But you can lose them when attacking, and those count for banking.

Never send fleet units at infests, it's a waste...

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Ahsan Afroze
5 March, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC

Maniakaal said:

Smar2 said:

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

You can not win elite unit or fleets. But you can lose them when attacking, and those count for banking.

 

If that so then you must update your excel file available at "wiki.plarium.com".

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Maniakaal
5 March, 2015, 11:56 PM UTC

Ahsan Afroze said:

Maniakaal said:

Smar2 said:

Maniakaal the excel file you added for infest calculations includes crystal calculation too. I wanna know can we won elite troops or fleets? if not then you hadn't added conversion for crystals into resources, is excel file still be OK?

You can not win elite unit or fleets. But you can lose them when attacking, and those count for banking.

 

If that so then you must update your excel file available at "wiki.plarium.com".

 

oh and why?

 

 

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fakeasnever
Moderator
6 March, 2015, 12:13 AM UTC

@Ahsan Afroze (5 March, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC):
I don't think they belong to Maniakaal...

 

@Maniakaal (5 March, 2015, 4:56 PM UTC):
What is the banking value for FBGs? Their Crystal cost?   lol

 

No, I don't really expect anyone to test this...   lol

Only if they happen to know.

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BiohazarD
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6 March, 2015, 5:27 AM UTC

For fleets it seems to be 1 crystal = 25 resources, so

bastion = 15,000

astreus=20,000

leviathan=50,000

hellstorm=28375

and 1 battlecruiser = 24200.  So for 1 leviathan you can get 2 bcs.  I'll let you decide if it's worth it ;)

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fakeasnever
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6 March, 2015, 12:58 PM UTC

@BiohazarD (6 March, 2015, 5:27 AM UTC):
Hmm....

Y-No.   lol

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NONE
15 March, 2015, 7:21 PM UTC

Hey Bio and Manikal, 

Here is the worst payout you can see. http://prntscr.com/6gcgdz

And slightly better but still lower than expected http://prntscr.com/6h6gg5.

And so far this is my calculation on loosing troops infest http://prntscr.com/6h6zry.

 

In summary, infest is killing me. I am loosing hell lot of troop from infest even though I have exactly followed guidelines in this forum or TD wiki.

Any thought how I can improve my infest payout? Or  Will  I be ever recover my troops back?

 

NONE

 

BiohazarD said:

Anger said:

Infests are OK until we have these events, which I really feel is affecting the math... instead of a large troop payout you get missiles instead for some bs reward... for the love of god, put them on separate loot tables.

 

I haven't found that I get worse payouts during global missions.  Payouts do seem to be lower than they were about a month ago, but I still average a 6-8% profit each time.  

 

NONE
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fakeasnever
Moderator
16 March, 2015, 4:03 AM UTC

@BiohazarD (10 January, 2015, 7:30 AM UTC):

I've looked into it a little, and the chart doesn't seem right... Unless this chart is the average power of Infestations.

Seems like most Infestation locations have different amounts of power, even among equal levels.

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BiohazarD
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17 March, 2015, 4:56 AM UTC

NONE said:

Hey Bio and Manikal, 

Here is the worst payout you can see. http://prntscr.com/6gcgdz

And slightly better but still lower than expected http://prntscr.com/6h6gg5.

And so far this is my calculation on loosing troops infest http://prntscr.com/6h6zry.

 

In summary, infest is killing me. I am loosing hell lot of troop from infest even though I have exactly followed guidelines in this forum or TD wiki.

Any thought how I can improve my infest payout? Or  Will  I be ever recover my troops back?

 

NONE

 

BiohazarD said:

Anger said:

Infests are OK until we have these events, which I really feel is affecting the math... instead of a large troop payout you get missiles instead for some bs reward... for the love of god, put them on separate loot tables.

 

I haven't found that I get worse payouts during global missions.  Payouts do seem to be lower than they were about a month ago, but I still average a 6-8% profit each time.  

 

I notice that some of the times when you went for payouts you were overbanked for that level.  This prevents you from making a profit on the infest, because the most you can win from it is the banking value.  So if you put in 100 mil on something that can only pay you 80 mil, the most you can possibly get back is 80% of your investment.  So you want to have about 90% of the banking value for an infest loaded when you kill it.  If you make back more than you had loaded, it seems to be best to wait a day before sending any more troops at infests. 

Also, one way you can lose quickly is if you get resource payouts (when this happens more than the value of resources paid is subtracted from the bank).  The best way to avoid this is by maxing out your resources in your sector before you do infests. 

 

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Saad Malik
17 March, 2015, 9:09 PM UTC

Peter Slawinski said:

Guys..I'm trying to understand how infests work and have the following questions:

1. My infestation level is 16 atm. Based on wiki, I should load almost 350k reso. 350k reso=700 valks. The problem is that if I send 700 valkyries in 1 go, they will break the site and I won't get the maximu payout. Should I send them in small groups then to ensure they die and I've loaded enough troops/reso in the site? And only after I've loaded enough I should sent big army to break the site and (hopefully) enjoy my payout?
2. Do I need to load each site separately or it takes into account the total amount of units (reso) I loaded into sites before finally breaking one of them and receiving my payout?
3, I found in wiki that people use mission sites to load non-mission sites. Does it mean that the units I lose killing mission site increase my 'bank' for the non-mission site I break after the mission?

4. Basically, you won't earn anything from infests because they pay only what you have loaded before. The only reason to hit them is to exchange the units you don't want for the units you want (apart from quest and ranking). Am I right?

5. If I load infestations with the amnts of reso stated in wiki, is there a chance that I won't win any units (and I simply lose the units loaded)?

These are some really good questions. Why not to answer them? Some of these are already answered in this topic but some of these still need answers.

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Saad Malik
17 March, 2015, 9:12 PM UTC

Is it true that we don't get payouts from non-mission sites even after reaching the required amount of banking if there are pending mission sites?

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Maniakaal
17 March, 2015, 9:36 PM UTC

Saad Malik said:

Is it true that we don't get payouts from non-mission sites even after reaching the required amount of banking if there are pending mission sites?

No

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Maniakaal
17 March, 2015, 9:46 PM UTC

Saad Malik said:

Peter Slawinski said:

Guys..I'm trying to understand how infests work and have the following questions:

1. My infestation level is 16 atm. Based on wiki, I should load almost 350k reso. 350k reso=700 valks. The problem is that if I send 700 valkyries in 1 go, they will break the site and I won't get the maximu payout. Should I send them in small groups then to ensure they die and I've loaded enough troops/reso in the site? And only after I've loaded enough I should sent big army to break the site and (hopefully) enjoy my payout?
2. Do I need to load each site separately or it takes into account the total amount of units (reso) I loaded into sites before finally breaking one of them and receiving my payout?
3, I found in wiki that people use mission sites to load non-mission sites. Does it mean that the units I lose killing mission site increase my 'bank' for the non-mission site I break after the mission?

4. Basically, you won't earn anything from infests because they pay only what you have loaded before. The only reason to hit them is to exchange the units you don't want for the units you want (apart from quest and ranking). Am I right?

5. If I load infestations with the amnts of reso stated in wiki, is there a chance that I won't win any units (and I simply lose the units loaded)?

These are some really good questions. Why not to answer them? Some of these are already answered in this topic but some of these still need answers.

1: You could also send first troops to other infests and dn't kill the infest, just bring it back to 1 line, and then kill the infest you want to kill for the reward

 

2. in fact answered in 1

 

3. I just count the reward the last time i got, and put that back in infest. And then hit next one for pay out. I have no mission infest left.

 

4. Yes and no. No,  i have had pay outs like 5K BC, 12 K dizzie and 17K ceptor. Worth about 120 miljon of resources. Much more i put in those. Yes, special in the start of the game, you load troopers and valks and you get back fighters, dis and BC.

 

5. yes that is possible. The numbers in wiki are about the amount, could be a little less or more. Best way is to count the resource value of you last won reward. Multiply that by about 12% and you have the amount of resources to put in for next reward.

 

 

 

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