Battleground banks and payout

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Angry Pirate
7 January, 2017, 9:08 PM UTC

^ Also, I have been running BGs every day for the past 2 weeks now, getting 10+ sizable payouts a day (without coining or adding cooked units). I've had almost 200K units in my Infirmary just from BGs.  There more complicated you try to make it, the beter chance you have of messing it up.


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NIKITA METEOR
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10 January, 2017, 2:28 PM UTC
Thanks for your well-grounded review, Saage! 
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mirco.pezzolato
31 January, 2017, 3:52 PM UTC

Good evening, for some time I struggle to understand the mechanism of the battlefields.

The other night I was facing the level fields 80 coming over to 100. Then on a 83 level has paid but the next pitch was too high to be shot down, then disposed of the win I went back a few levels WITHOUT RECEIVE NO PAYMENT.

because?

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lucifer131
2 February, 2017, 2:33 AM UTC

How cand i get more good prize to buy


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Alina Bright
Community Manager
6 February, 2017, 10:51 AM UTC
lucifer131 said:

How cand i get more good prize to buy


Hi! Can you please specify what do you mean?
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Sol 46
13 February, 2017, 3:20 PM UTC
Amulet units. . . How to they calculate into the rss ban
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Sol 46
13 February, 2017, 5:51 PM UTC
Is there seperation in the bg banks between off and de
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Ve4nik
Moderator
14 February, 2017, 7:35 AM UTC
Well, as I know - there is only total bg bank.
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Alina Bright
Community Manager
14 February, 2017, 10:51 AM UTC

All Units (including different modifications) count when you raid Battlegrounds. However, please keep in mind that the actual Unit value may differ from your expectations and the info provided by other players in different spreadsheets. 

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Oadin
23 February, 2017, 9:34 PM UTC
I have been smashing bgs for weeks getting 15-25mil troops not a problem.. After this update I got reward of 14083grifns n it was lvl145 def.. After sending them back in plus extras I can't even get payouts on lvl80 or high70s... Does ur bank stay the same always or does it reset if dropping down to lower lvl bgs
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Angry Pirate
24 February, 2017, 3:46 AM UTC

Sol 46 said:


Is there seperation in the bg banks between off and de

NO, there is only one bank.  However, the payout is weighted towards Offense or Defense depending on the type of BG you receive the payout from. 

Example: 

You have an Offensive BG that is ready to be dropped by as few as 20 pikeman.

Your last payout was heavy Defense and you want Offense

You pay back in the sufficient defensive units (RSS) value to receive a payout from the afre mentioned offensive BG (Maths not included, sorry)

Then you kill the Offensive BG, affectively trading Defense for Offense.

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Angry Pirate
24 February, 2017, 3:59 AM UTC

Oadin said:


I have been smashing bgs for weeks getting 15-25mil troops not a problem.. After this update I got reward of 14083grifns n it was lvl145 def.. After sending them back in plus extras I can't even get payouts on lvl80 or high70s... Does ur bank stay the same always or does it reset if dropping down to lower lvl bgs

It sounds like your bank finally caught up to you. Receiving a pure Bestiary payout of what is pretty far below the average payout for that level (33,707,580  below average, based off the figures you provided) is a strong indicator that your bank was severely depleted. Honestly you got pretty lucky to have received the payout from the L145. 

However, to answer your question, based off what i have experienced, your current bank can be affected by the payouts you receive. The concept that "It's always there just waiting to be pulled back out" is a red herring; it only proves factual when you pay back in enough units to make it pay out (but if you were calculating it,, you will see there was a loss).

My one piece of advice here: When this occurs, drop BELOW 70s (I usually go down to the 50s , sometimes even 20s) and work your way back up.

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deanlkellogg
24 February, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

All the above are pretty much correct...but... in their own line?  If you want max payout...there is one way...points...another.   I have placed top 10 in my tier..and collected a lvl 123 payout.


I can perform a cleanup of bg 1-87 every day for points....or I can advance 1 lvl per week. (Without coining) take your choice.


But....unless your bank is 999,999,999...you. It's choose....at lvl 131....beyond that.. do not know.


Simple rule..... y bank is 124,000,000 resource.... I can clear 1-87 daily.


Max mission is 123 after 3-weeks investment and 40k sapphires.


If you MUST see 12,000 warlocks and 5600 demon in your stock....clear mission.  If you raid someone with those warlocks.....the metal MUST go back in.


Bg has never robbed me.....but it ALWAYS demands refilling.

Shirlskeep
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Oadin
9 March, 2017, 2:42 AM UTC
Ok so I had a big issue with being ripped by the bgs.. But Afta spending few weeks working lvl40-80 mostly on lower end n slowly chipping away each reward at a lvl117 def didn't take much and I'm back on track now again.. I've settled on the conclusion that ur bank stays in ther but just takes time to come around to paying you again, working at same time as tournaments helped a lot extra 200 odd golems or warlocks helped even tho I havnt fully regained what I've put in I'm confident I can g t a great reward on this 151 I'm waiting to kill.. I know it sucks feeling ripped off but get league to giv you def til u work ur way bk up
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TRITAN1963
22 March, 2017, 6:34 PM UTC
Turbo said:

Taziar said:


I have a few of questions about battlegrounds, any tips would be much appreciated!


1- What is the best way to fill up the BG bank? Is it by sacrificing units to the highest mission BG's without beating it? does beating lower BG's not fill up the bank properly?


2- What is the best BG to get your pay out at, is it the highest mission or the BG right after it. Is getting payouts in mid level BG's bad?


3- Last and not least! How to determine if I got the full payout, and is there a way to trigger a full payout? 


Thanks a lot guys! 

why you want to play bg? bg is waste of time and troops. Bg are only giving your own resource back only in different form(well if they give it back) because the bank is sometimes reseted by Game and many player lost millions of resource.

If you can train high level  troops never play bg because is just waste of time there are big lies out there about bg that you can turn 10m into 50m and so on,but wonder how idiot someone can be by testing it in 1 week and still don't understand that's not the case and still playing battlegrounds.

There is no guarantee in bg payout even your highest and second highest will not pay always.

Last and not the least forget loosing troops in battleground they will only give back your own resource (if they give it back). absolutely no profit don't be scammed by those lying about bg.
So we'll said.i do bgs a lot and now I stay away from them,I lost so many verses 
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tennaciousd78
12 April, 2017, 6:30 PM UTC
What I have come to understand is the algorithms for payouts are based largely on the expendature of both off/defensive payouts from previously conquered BGs. Think of these payouts as loans towards you doing more BGs. Ypu will never get the same payouts on a lvl. 70 bg that you will from a lvl. 120 bg.......ever. They are made for players willing to use the risk vs. reward method. It is a gamble to some, others not so much. As in playing a slot machine, sometimes the risk outweighs the reward. However, you will find that much like slot machines, you sometimes hit it huge and after that, the algorithm resets. BGs are worth learning and plugging away at until you have a firm understanding of how they work. It is proven. You will hit it big if you keep playing! Good luck, Lords and Ladies!
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Oadin
19 April, 2017, 10:52 AM UTC
I've had a good sized payout from bgs but had a big war n lost a lot.. Du I have to keep training n killing units until it reaches the similar value to get a payout? or is there ways to reset the  Bgs? N also killing bgs from bottom up makes two banks? Or it all goes into one pot?
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tennaciousd78
24 April, 2017, 3:45 PM UTC

All of your troops given in a bg payout play into the algorithms. Say you haul in 1kk troop strength from both offensive/defensive payouts. You will have to pay that back with about 10% interest before getting as nother good payout. Rss play a factor, too...just not as much. Use your RSS payouts to build more troops if you lose troops in a war. Word to the wise.....dont use your payouts for wars. It becomes wasteful and time consuming.


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Alina Bright
Community Manager
25 April, 2017, 9:24 AM UTC

Lords and Ladies, there can be several reasons why you feel like you get a small reward. First of all, remember that the reward size may differ even for the same Battleground level. Also, try to minimize your losses by analyzing the Balur's Units on a Battleground before raiding it. Check the Unit Defensive stats. Choose the type of Units that will be the most successfull against Balur's forces. Remember that Cavalry Units may be the strongest ones, but they're not always the best type of Units to send at a Battleground.


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Trentkestin
21 May, 2017, 7:24 PM UTC

Always interested in learning about BG's. Ive tested killing 1-50 each day and everyday I seem to be able to climb less and less levels until I wouldn't even get a payout from a level 25 (I never used any payouts for anything other than BG's). Soo idk my theory is that equipment thats paid out will lower your bank as well.

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