The EMPERORS Story Downfall of CoralitionUC

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djmoody
14 September, 2016, 8:06 PM UTC

Shin I finally read a fair bit of the book you wrote.

There is so much mis-perception of how things went down. It's like hearing what Sara wrote from Anarchy perspective. You are fighting and hating someone for a load of reasons that aren't real.

I can't respond to all the areas that need attention right now and tbh I suspect we are so far down the road, finding out that we didn't do most of the things you think isn't going to change things.

I'll just remind you one thing that I have told you before because it covers the whole "Coralition put you in SW to fight KT" misconception.

No maor league went into that area for a month. KT didn't go into that area. We assumed KT didn't want it. It was held by small leagues they could have handled them easily.

Together with Emps the DAM beacon was taken.

In that weekend's NAP meeting with KT, KT expressed unhappiness about that beacon being taken. It wasn't the focus of the meeting but that came across during the discussions. 

So after that NAP meeting ended, I immediately pulled the key players together (Dave from KT, Rick for some reason couldn't make it) to talk about the SW corner to immediately put the issue to bed.

We openly told KT exactly what the Unforgiven/Coralition intention to establish you in 5 edge beacons in SW. I asked the direct question whether that was a problem for KT. Dave's response was that he would have liked them for themselves, that they were in talks to swap with DAM but that they had "snoozed and lost" and he didn't feel he had any right to say take that area couldn't be taken by someone else. In short we got the OK to continue with the plan.

So actually I personally went out of my way to ensure that you weren't going to have problems with KT. And I did that 100% to ensure you didn't get caught in the middle between us. And I did it within 1 hr of first hearing noises that KT might have a problem with it.

So when you think that we tried to push you into a fight with KT we actually did our best to ensure the total opposite.

I have told you this before. 

I suggest you actually ask KT Dave about that meeting, so you can confirm independently everything above is true.

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Jezebel
17 September, 2016, 12:34 AM UTC

Emperor Shin said:


Test,


as per your request, you have been left with just 2 beacons out of your previous 9 beacons.

you asked us to leave you with just 3 beacons so we did one better, we have left you with just 2. :)
Cheers,
Take care :)

maybe check the other thread and see our response what you did today was nothing so don't gloat - we were ready for that - put your troops to task and keep going.  While you are at it help Tychi clean up the dragon blood in his castle that was killed by our sister league.


You accomplished nothing http://prntscr.com/ciwpoq

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Emperor's Shin
17 September, 2016, 12:42 AM UTC

Jezebel said:


Emperor Shin said:


Test,


as per your request, you have been left with just 2 beacons out of your previous 9 beacons.

you asked us to leave you with just 3 beacons so we did one better, we have left you with just 2. :)
Cheers,
Take care :)

maybe check the other thread and see our response what you did today was nothing so don't gloat - we were ready for that - put your troops to task and keep going.  While you are at it help Tychi clean up the dragon blood in his castle that was killed by our sister league.


You accomplished nothing http://prntscr.com/ciwpoq

sure thing missy, whatever you say. :)

well, I decided to delete my comment right after I posted it as I thought to lets not flame war anymore as they are pointless but you were too quick, saw it within seconds of my post and replied back. lol

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Alyona Kolomiitseva
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19 September, 2016, 1:06 PM UTC
Interesting...
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Emperor's Shin
23 September, 2016, 11:35 PM UTC
Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Interesting...
lol, Thanks :) :) yes it is :P hehehe
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Oracle
21 May, 2017, 1:33 PM UTC
Opened per Initiators request. 
Biohazard has killed the forum.
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djmoody
21 May, 2017, 1:43 PM UTC

Oracle said:


Opened per Initiators request. 

What - Shin who left the game - asked for it to be opened?

Sorry the BS'omitter has spiked like crazy on this one.

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Emperor's Shin
21 May, 2017, 3:21 PM UTC

well guys, I wrote this topic in the middle of the biggest war the server has ever seen so I couldn't quite explain many of the things in details without giving out confidential/critical game changing strategic information.
but now that much of that information is obsolete or already known and doesn't hold a strategic advantage anymore so I am going to explain those things,

first of all, why this post? well, when I left the game, I left it in quite urgency because of real life issues and wasn't quite sure on when or if I would be back and now as it seems like there is a 95% possibility that I wouldn't be coming back because of me being extremely busy with my business plans so I would like to put a few pieces of the puzzle in place. :P

1) who is this LucKy character and why do people occasionally call me LucKy too..? :P

well, LucKy was my first character in this game. It was my castle in the Unforgiven Knights league and the whole server knew me as LucKy prior to the Emperors becoming a massive force on the server. I started playing this game on 6th July 2014, almost 3 years ago, a few days after Test, lol, which some people consider as my arch enemy in this game. LucKy and Test used to be very good friends back in the days. funny how things change. :P
I played for a few months before quitting the game because of real life issues, I came back a few months later in 2015 and created Emperors using Shin, spent almost 2 years in helping build EMPERORS into the most powerful league on the server and then I left the game on December, 2016 again due to real life issues. :((

2) Did EMPERORS really have a league Paypal account and what did we use it for..?

Yes, we did but we used it to upgrade our fortress contrary to popular beliefs. :P


3) Then why do people continuously say that we used a league paypal account to coin up a massive hammer..?

well, the answer to it is much more complicated and has more to do with the game strategy than anything else. :P now let me explain why.
you see, back when Emperors were a beacon league in the south-west edge, we had a huge threat from the coralition coming after us as we refused to bow down to them and kiss their asses and so when there was a beacon drop on the south, the most crucial part of our main hammer, ie, FRENZIE accidently attacked Dominus's beacon, our ally, a small/new league, very new to the beacons arena. who had tried to take advantage of the beacons drop to take a beacon for themselves in our area without knowing it was our area.
it was a massive hit, our hammer lost nearly half it's value back then and the whole server could see it in the points including our enemies, the coralition/UC.
so after that hit, we were sure that the coralition/UC would come after our beacons thinking that our hammer size has been reduced significantly and so we wouldn't be able to do a lot of damage back to them and making it a perfect time for them to hit us.
so we brainstormed and came up with an idea. We knew that we had spies/alts from the coralition and everyone else as well so we thought of faking it by saying that we got it all back by reviving it all back with saphires. :P
It had to look real to make the coralition scared of us and not come after us, so we sent out a league wide asking people to contribute to a league paypal account to revive the army and then afterwards sending a league wide again thanking everyone for the contributions and that we revived it all back and some more with all the money and that the hammer is even bigger than what it was before which obviously wasn't true at all but our enemies believed it thinking they were being clever by spying on us and so our plan worked. :P ;)

And then there was this another time when we fooled coralition again by spreading news around to our friends which we knew were their friends too that we have crossed the 1.5bil hammer mark by reviving our troops using the league paypal account again to take down the Super League's beacons (coralition merged into destiny) while in reality it wasn't true at all. hahaha, :P ofcourse, again for strategic purposes. :P

there might have been some other times too when we used that trick and then on top of that, we became the first league to get our fortress to lvl 20 in which obviously saphires were used so it just reinforced that thought in our peoples minds that we are a league of coiners and what not. :P
actually, we didn't really use as many saphires as we had a shitload of glory points by winning almost every single tournament and so didn't need much saphires but yea, we did use them.

ofcourse there are many more things which I have still not disclosed and never going to as they are still relevant to the game and aren't obsolete yet. :)

4) did Unforgivens really get any of our beacons when we dropped them and decided to go beaconless?

a solid NO, no beacon of ours was given to any of the unforgivens, just 1 beacon which was actually held by us on the beacons drop in the unforgiven knights territory on the top west corner was returned back to them as we were going beaconless.


5) did UC/coralition break the NAP or the Unforgivens did?

Technically, no one broke it but I would count it as breaking the NAP if the league you are in a NAP with sends you a letter informing you of pulling out of the NAP and then straight away starts hitting your beacons within an hour which is what the UC/coralition did to the unforgivens.
but it doesn't really matter though.

6) Why did you change your logo/banner now after all this time?

Well, a lot time ago, long before the server war, long before we even had a lvl 20 fortress. we had won a competition in which we got a custom league logo so our logo/banner was supposed to be changed to a custom logo/banner designed by us back then but it is a shame that plarium cares so little about their customers that it took them more than half an year to process it and for them to put that logo into the game even though we complained constantly to them but with no avail.

so I guess, it is just plarium being plarium. :((


7) People say that Emperors could have decimated Destiny and the coralition on day 1 of the war. if had they launched full blown attacks with all that they had? is that true? and if so then why didn't we?

well, it was not that black and white, from our point of view, this is just a game and so if we had killed our enemies then there wouldn't be anything left for us to do either, with all our enemies dead, Content would have been over for us as well without much fun left so we wanted to just extend the war and have fun, long war with much more fun and much more content. Our main goal from the war wasn't to wipe them off the map but to make them understand that it is a war game and it isn't anything to moan or whine about when they get attacked. attacking and getting attacked is a part of the game and is fun and they shouldn't get pissed over it.

obviously, there was a whole lot more to it all than just that but well, can't go into every single detail or this would become a huge essay. :P


8) what is it about the coralition saying that shin wanted to dominate the map by creating a super alliance and what not.?

well, we play a strategy game and so strategy is the most crucial part of the game, so it was just a strategy.
like I mentioned above, we wanted to make them understand the fact that fighting and attacking one another is fun and a part of the game and isn't something to moan or whine or bitch about.
so I suggested that we build a super alliance of 4 biggest leagues on the server. as you see, you can only fix the system when you are within the system, not if you are out of the system, so our plan was to get inside the system and fix it from the inside.
we wanted to make the server so that anyone is allowed to attack anyone or anything without anyone gangbanging anyone, player vs player, one on one. not a whole league coming after just 1 player.

as I had been one of those players, I started out in a small/little league in which, no one would take me on one on one and instead called upon their leagues into a war with me, so they would turn it into 1 player vs a whole league and such which was very unfair to me.
also there were players who would just threaten to destroy my whole league of small players over small fights as they couldn't take me on one on one, like Crusher for eg., back then the marshall of KOC. the most powerful league on the server back in those days.

so I just wanted to fix the system in which fighting and attacking one another was acceptable and wasn't frowned upon and it was only possible to do it if we had an alliance of the top 4 most powerful leagues which accepted that as that would put a system in place which would then become accepted by the whole server, ie, our server's community, so I just wanted to build a small community of us all who played and fought together and had fun together, laughed together and didn't frown over an attack or something. would say to one another, good game after a fight instead of insulting, calling bad names and such.
I wanted a community where everyone was good to everyone, after fighting one another, enemies even helping one another rebuild for the next fight against each other and such.

I believed back in the days that Beacons are every league's vulnerability so shouldn't be used against it and so I wanted us to exclude the beacons and only keep castles, fortress, settlements, sieges and everything else a fair game for everyone including allies and friends. so anyone should be able to attack anyone.
hell, even it was a huuuuge huuuggee step for the big leagues to even take the time to think about playing the game this way. for every major change, it takes slow, baby steps. Major changes don't happen overnight and I didn't expect it to. so I thought in the future, after we became comfortable with this and good with all this, I would have suggested again to lets keep even beacons as a fair game to have more fun, it would have been much more acceptable after a while, so it had basically everything to do with making the game much more fun, nothing more. ofcourse, back then it looked feasible but now, it seems almost impossible to even imagine a game without being able to attack beacons at this stage and where the server is going. :))


There are many more things which I still can't answer or explain because it is still important information and impacts the leagues currently playing the game right now. so sorry about that.


here, given below is an article published about our league, which explains a few more things :-
https://plarium.com/en/strategy-games/stormfall-age-of-war/clans/emperors-league/

you can read it as well if you want to know more.

I am really sorry if I upset anyone in this game or hurt anyone's feelings, we were just playing a game and so it wasn't intended but I do apologize if I did.

Good luck Everyone, Cheers, It was a lot of fun playing with you all, will never forget you, don't forget me either. :))

Take Care, Cheers.

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djmoody
21 May, 2017, 4:19 PM UTC

Will the real Emperor Shin please stand up, please stand up.

Are you "Emperor Shin" or "Emperor's Shin". 

Credibility gone before line one of the post. One of these sets of posts (the Op or the recent post) are from a fake account (or maybe even both). What should we believe out of this?

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Emperor's Shin
21 May, 2017, 5:04 PM UTC

djmoody said:


Will the real Emperor Shin please stand up, please stand up.

Are you "Emperor Shin" or "Emperor's Shin". 

Credibility gone before line one of the post. One of these sets of posts (the Op or the recent post) are from a fake account (or maybe even both). What should we believe out of this?

mate, both Emperor Shin and Emperor's Shin were the same person. :))

I renamed my name to Emperor's Shin as people used to think that I am some sort of Emperor of the Emperors league as no one else in the league had Emperor next to their name so I never used to like being seen like that as we were all equal in my eyes. :(( so in order to fix that I put the 's next to Emperor to make it look like I am Emperor 's Shin :)) as in my league's Shin :))

makes sense now? :))

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trevor
21 May, 2017, 6:52 PM UTC
shin you take care my friend   glad you posted about the fortress i know as i was in the league at the time  ,  i wish you all the best in the real world my friend  take care trevor
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Jezebel
21 May, 2017, 10:16 PM UTC

So have you been lurking on the sidelines this whole time Shin?  I thought you were leaving the game to start a business, if you did pursue real life ambitions hope it went well for you :)


This is just a game to be honest I was glad when the UC decided that there was no longer a need for it, they did what they intended and the different leagues wanted to move in different directions.


Despite all the flaming on the forums I will go on record that I DO NOT DISLIKE ANY PLAYER OR THEIR RESPECTIVE LEAGUES the forums just amuse me when I get bored with the game.


cheers!!

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djmoody
21 May, 2017, 11:54 PM UTC

Emperor's Shin said:


Emperor Shin and Emperor's Shin were the same person. :))

I renamed my name to Emperor's Shin.............


Yeah I knew you changed your name in-game.

But the forum always used to work by keeping your original name that you first logged in with. So as you changed your name in game, the forum name would remain unchanged. Did they changed that?
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Emperor's Shin
22 May, 2017, 1:16 AM UTC
trevor said:

shin you take care my friend   glad you posted about the fortress i know as i was in the league at the time  ,  i wish you all the best in the real world my friend  take care trevor
thanks mate, you too, cheers :))
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Emperor's Shin
22 May, 2017, 1:22 AM UTC

djmoody said:


Emperor's Shin said:


Emperor Shin and Emperor's Shin were the same person. :))

I renamed my name to Emperor's Shin.............


Yeah I knew you changed your name in-game.

But the forum always used to work by keeping your original name that you first logged in with. So as you changed your name in game, the forum name would remain unchanged. Did they changed that?


well, they now have an option to edit your name on the forums if you so wished, I know that back in the days, they wouldn't let you change your name on the forums after you set it up initially but afterwards they changed that.
so It is possible to rename your name here as well. both game's account database and the forum account's databases are separate, and the software works separate of one another.
so you could be named something in the game while something else on the forums based on how you set your name here. :))
as you might know that there is no more an Emperor's Shin castle in the game. When I left the game, I asked my league to change it's name and use it for whatever they needed it for. :))
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djmoody
22 May, 2017, 1:36 AM UTC

Yeah apparently its used as an alt in another league now, didn't meet the requirements for Rebels so was put in Rebels Light Brigade. It was re-named to Fervus.

Anyway, it's nice to know it's really you.


Emperor Shin (Op to the post)

User ID: 28904

Emperor's Shin (being posted on now)

User ID: 34612

You can see where the confusion might lie - 2 different accounts, posting as if they are Shin. Maybe Lucky could come and join the party :)

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Emperor's Shin
22 May, 2017, 1:55 AM UTC

Jezebel said:


So have you been lurking on the sidelines this whole time Shin?  I thought you were leaving the game to start a business, if you did pursue real life ambitions hope it went well for you :)


This is just a game to be honest I was glad when the UC decided that there was no longer a need for it, they did what they intended and the different leagues wanted to move in different directions.


Despite all the flaming on the forums I will go on record that I DO NOT DISLIKE ANY PLAYER OR THEIR RESPECTIVE LEAGUES the forums just amuse me when I get bored with the game.


cheers!!

lol, well, I did leave the game and yep, I did do that which is why I have been extremely busy with real life stuff. :))

Thanks, appreciate it. lets hope that it does. fingers crossed. :))


Me too, hell, the only time I felt that things went way too far and were no more a game was when Test started using abusive words on teamspeak and started calling names and stuff which really wasn't professional at all but then, sky apologized to me for that so I didn't feel as bad about it but I was pretty pissed on that day. [[ but that was just this one time other than that day, he has never used such language and I respected him for that. :)) ]] and even though Sky mentioned here that words were said from both sides which wasn't actually true as I never used any abusive words there but well, as he didn't like me putting that on the forums so I didn't say anything more and let it die.

but excluding that day, every other time, he has never used such words or such foul language so it was goood and I respected him for that. :))

I really loved the fact that he was very smart and intelligent and that we were such opposite personalities, which made for a perfect opponent.
so that was the best thing that came out of this, as everyone needs a opponent to play a game against. :))

after I left the game, I even asked Test that if he ever wanted to play some other game together with me, I would love to but in the future, as right now, live is extremely busy and no time for a game but I would love to play with him or against him, whichever way he wanted. or others wanted. if we all, our whole community decided to play another game together after this game dies maybe. :))

but anyways, I too do not dislike anyone in this game, it is just a game, we all have different personalities, which is what makes a game fun and life fun. if we were all similar to one another, life wouldn't be fun then, would it be? it would be pretty boring then. so it is a good thing that we all have different personalities to keep things interesting :))

I wish you good luck as well with your life and your ambitions. :)) hope you do well. :) cheers :))

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Emperor's Shin
22 May, 2017, 2:04 AM UTC

djmoody said:


Yeah apparently its used as an alt in another league now, didn't meet the requirements for Rebels so was put in Rebels Light Brigade. It was re-named to Fervus.

Anyway, it's nice to know it's really you.


Emperor Shin (Op to the post)

User ID: 28904

Emperor's Shin (being posted on now)

User ID: 34612

You can see where the confusion might lie - 2 different accounts, posting as if they are Shin. Maybe Lucky could come and join the party :)

Dj, was it really necessary to put all that here? :((

anyways, Thanks :)) 

and as for your 2 different accounts theory, no idea why renaming a name gave me a different User ID but it has as both accounts are one and the same. This is the same account as the one I used to post my first post. so just plarium, being plarium, I guess. :P
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Emperor's Shin
22 May, 2017, 2:59 AM UTC

btw, the Most fun that I had in this game was when we had our war with KOC (Knight's of Camelot) back when we were a little league. :))

damnn, that was some gooooood, gooood funnn. :)) one of my best times in this game. :))

was sooo much fun, when we fooled them into thinking that we were going to hit their beacons, made them shi.t their pants and made coralition worried as well while our actual plan was something else entirely, hahahhaa
and then just minutes before the end of the war, all of our members sent them this song.
 
Europe - The Final Countdown (Official Video)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw 
 and then after winning the war, we all went to their ts and damnn, how they were screaming and shouting, and what not. lol

those 7 days were the best, most fun days that I had in this game. :))
and I am pretty sure that everyone who was in the Emps back then and was on TS, would say the same too. :P as well, it was just way too much fun. lol

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zapelo
26 May, 2017, 12:41 PM UTC
Emperor's Shin said:

djmoody said:


Yeah apparently its used as an alt in another league now, didn't meet the requirements for Rebels so was put in Rebels Light Brigade. It was re-named to Fervus.

Anyway, it's nice to know it's really you.


Emperor Shin (Op to the post)

User ID: 28904

Emperor's Shin (being posted on now)

User ID: 34612

You can see where the confusion might lie - 2 different accounts, posting as if they are Shin. Maybe Lucky could come and join the party :)

Dj, was it really necessary to put all that here? :((

anyways, Thanks :)) 

and as for your 2 different accounts theory, no idea why renaming a name gave me a different User ID but it has as both accounts are one and the same. This is the same account as the one I used to post my first post. so just plarium, being plarium, I guess. :P
lol.... nothing else to say
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