The Saga continues on server 2

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Mad Ted
28 July, 2017, 2:42 AM UTC
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Oracle
28 July, 2017, 2:08 PM UTC

Mad Ted said:


https://prnt.sc/g18lz6

Thanks for inserting your pics. I hated having to open links every time. 

TO me its looks like treason there

Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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Mad Ted
28 July, 2017, 3:05 PM UTC
Oracle said:

Mad Ted said:


https://prnt.sc/g18lz6

Thanks for inserting your pics. I hated having to open links every time. 

TO me its looks like treason there

I am quite certain I'll be accused of photoshopping this pm. Therefore I also took the liberty of making a short video from my cell phone that shows me opening it up in game just to please those who refuse to believe it, lol.
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Oracle
28 July, 2017, 4:03 PM UTC

Mad Ted said:


Oracle said:

Thanks for inserting your pics. I hated having to open links every time. 

TO me its looks like treason there

I am quite certain I'll be accused of photoshopping this pm. Therefore I also took the liberty of making a short video from my cell phone that shows me opening it up in game just to please those who refuse to believe it, lol.

I can't comment in that. These information might be useful

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/54021_inserting-youtube-videos-on-your-forum-post-/

The only problem I have now I blurring/hiding parts of the site( like coordinates) while I take the video. The only useful stuffs include manipulate the actual code. 

remember you have to upload it to youtube before inserting it. 

Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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Dailach
2 August, 2017, 5:21 PM UTC

           ~~ Playground Rules ~~

 I have been tasked with sending this to marshals, captains and random members on server 2. We hope this knowledge helps leagues move forward. Either away from the war, or on to fun!

The war on server 2 grows boring. The RA have dwindled down to a few select players raiding only the lowest level and long ago castles . They hold no beacons, pose no threat and have lost huge numbers of troops yet fail to accept defeat. This is partially due to their 'diplomatic posturing'. Apparently, if you have more ally's, you win. Fine. Whatever. Playground rules it is.

We have tried very hard to avoid 'bullying'. With KT telling everyone who they HAVE TO be allied with, we expected for them to have the bullying label. But alas … no.

Here is the playground. LotBR on one side of the field, KT/RA on the other. If you are allied with KT/RA, we assume you want to play in the game on their side. Fine, game on! If you see your beacon or fortress fall during the game, you will know why. If you have no alliances with RA, we presume you are standing on the sidelines watching the game.

We are not telling anyone who to ally with. We are not asking anyone to ally with us. We presume if you are allied with someone, you wish to show honor and support them, even in times of war.  Thats what allies do! 

** Any league with a KT or RA tag or leagues allied with KT, KTR, DD, DA, GDG, ADP, the Ace and LC are RA supporters and enemies to Black Rose.

-Lords of the Black Rose

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Several leagues have responded, some even did it eloquently. So I would like to address some…

Simply, there are too many leagues holding beacons with only diplomacy and no defense on this server. This is boring and against the spirit of the game. It is our experience that other leagues will not hit a beacon with 500m.  Most leagues should be able to hold a beacon (even those we do not like).  The phenomenon of leagues holding beacons with no defense needs to be adjusted.  We need more leagues to step up and claim beacons.  Strong leagues should hold beacons they can defend with troops.   No one should feel safe with 100m in a beacon.   Again, it's a war game, not a diplomacy game.

Also, Black Rose is, for the first time, allied with other leagues. We are mutually agreeing to not hit beacons or fortresses, but allowing the members to hit members, including fiefs, hamlets, castles and settlements. Why? Because this is a WAR game. We love good opponents. The greatest risk to a league hitting us is we may engage one of their members, discover he/she is skilled …. and then try to recruit them. We LOVE skilled players. I understand diplomacy for growth leagues, learning to play the game etc. But the top 30 leagues should feel SHAME for having so much diplomacy. Go play Farmville. Literally.  

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Hot_Nickelz
2 August, 2017, 11:00 PM UTC

Dailach said:


          

We have tried very hard to avoid 'bullying'. With KT telling everyone who they HAVE TO be allied with, we expected for them to have the bullying label. But alas … no.



I never try to avoid bullying. Just saying. I look for whiners,complainers, and weak minded fools to target! Did they not ask to be attacked by complaining,whining, or being idiots? Seems like common sense to me.          





Please be aware, there is NO SUCH THING AS BULLYING! It does not exist in a open world MMO war game!






This is a fantastical idea dreamed up by defeated players/leagues to explain their defeat so they could dissociate any personal responsibility for their defeat. Any thing you can say is 'bullying" I can verify is a valid strategy or tactic within the boundaries of the game. Plarium created and enforces these boundaries and as players we agree to accept them by continuing to play the game. We each make a choice to sign in daily and participate in the game, and that is tacit agreement to the boundaries of the game.

This is a war game! Expect to be attacked. Expect to be attacked by bigger players. If you want an even match please take up chess! Your job should be to use the environment provided by Plarium to have FUN! I assume that is why we play? People can only have fun IF they choose to have fun. 


 (I actually know very few play for fun, its sad but true!). 



Nickelz
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Clueless
3 August, 2017, 12:27 AM UTC

The arrogance of the BR players is astounding.  For over a year you have been allowed to act as pirates, raiding at will with little or no return attacks to castles, fortesses or beacons.  You've benefitted from massive league tourney rewards, large amounts of DE and higher levels of league knowledge.  You claim superiority like it's been earned.  Well, in truth, it has.  But not by you.  It's been earned by Bob.  You are all riding his spending habit like a toddler on daddy's back.  He and his alts have outspent any league.  We all know Bob can and does do as he pleases. 

Leagues cater to Bob.  Without Bob, LOBR is nothing special.  But since they have him and his unlimited spending they can tout whatever claims they wish, press whatever buttons they want and make whatever policy they care to.  Everyone knows it.  See the attached letter above regarding the "playground rules."  LOBR has pushed many leagues into dropping alliances with RA leagues by threats of Bob visiting them.  I've lost two allies today as a result of that letter. I find it amusing how all these LOBR players are sitting here acting like it's them that has made LOBR into what they are.  It's always about Bob!  

Black Rose is winning when you look at rankings and number of beacons held.  There are few, if any, leagues that can hold a beacon against Bob but many that can defeat an LOBR without Bob.  But BR is hiding behind all their allies, letting them wear down the RA, because as they have so eloquently and correctly said, they don't have to fight!  They can sit back and do nothing until Bob comes on line.

Both BR and the RA have done nothing impressive in this war.  It's not even a war.  As long as Bob coins at that level you won't see my league hold a beacon.  But that's ok with my league.  We're all having fun.  We don't need a beacon or high rank to feel good about ourselves.  I guess others need that.  So hats off LOBR, you've managed to do absolutely nothing remarkable over the past two months.  And to Bob, you're the MAN!!!  And the WOMAN (MJoan)!!!!!  You sir/ma'am have a very impressive.......credit card!!!

I know, I know......my league hasn't done anything either.  Oh well.  We wouldn't have it any other way.  Afterall, as Teddy says, we are a "training league."  Expectations for us are low, we'll do our best not to exceed them.  8 beacons, ten minutes, 200 mil+ gone Teddy.......by a training league.  All those spies and altsinmy league and you had no clue (talking to you Windwalker..wake up, you were asleep at the wheel!!).  I may be Clueless, but I'm not the clueless one here.  I can leave the game now imagining the look on all your faces when those reports came in.


BTW, how do so many LOBR players have time to comment on this forum with such frequency considering how many alts they have in their own league and in mine?!

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Stray Dog
3 August, 2017, 1:15 AM UTC

Clueless said:


Whaaa, whaaa, whaaa, etc....

The kiddie games are over and now, the REAL WAR begins!!


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EDMILLCO
3 August, 2017, 2:48 AM UTC

http://prntscr.com/g3p4ym

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Dailach
3 August, 2017, 6:37 AM UTC

Clueless,


Don't exaggerate. 90 million loss in the beacon you hit.  The others had like 2-3 mil in them each.  Congrats on your taking a beacon I guess.  

I do want to thank you for your press release regarding our league.  It was something I have been meaning to do myself, sell some of the features of our league for recruitment.  Yes, we raid at will!  Yes, we get the lion's share of rewards from League events!  We average 16,000 Sapphires a month for our members.  Not to mention troops, resources, skull runes and more Lovar's Blessings than we can sell.  Yes, we have beacons with DE. Yes, we have the highest fortress on the server, with the highest buffs. It is always fun to see the reactions of new members when they reach that seventh day timer. BAM! Super nice boost to their offense/defense.

You failed to mention the ridiculous numbers of league chest we get. Seriously, I have 200x 100,000 irons. We also use TeamSpeak to communicate, train members and have fun! We even have members from other leagues join us for training in there. This is a great way to meet new people. We are a league of people who want to have fun playing a war game, and I guess to clueless we are arrogant. And in truth, to him we are … cause it's fun. It annoys him so well. His banter with Windwalker is worth the ticket into our league by itself.

But seriously, if anyone wants to get to know us, away from all the craziness that is the forum banter or back-handed insults, please come join us in TeamSpeak. We would love to meet you.

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Dailach
3 August, 2017, 7:16 AM UTC

So ..  Proof LotBR is more than just Bob.  




And here is current .. not yet made pretty yet.  Sorry.  (I see I have not yet updated the dates on one below) .. that will read 23rd - Aug 6th, 



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Oracle
3 August, 2017, 7:37 AM UTC

Maybe I should have stayed at BR when I had the chance. A bad decision on my part I guise.  

But seriously these is something else


Is a good thing I didn't receive the message. 

Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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Clueless
3 August, 2017, 1:34 PM UTC

Stray Dog said:


The kiddie games are over and now, the REAL WAR begins!!




So what you're saying is.......Bob will be logging on shortly.
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Clueless
3 August, 2017, 1:51 PM UTC

Dailach said:


"and I guess to clueless we are arrogant. And in truth, to him we are … cause it's fun. It annoys him so well."

You don't annoy me at all.  All Windwalker's boasting of all the spies and screenshots of my league messages from his spies don't even ruffle a single feather.  While you're playing your "war game" by running alts and spying on leagues and writing manifestos to intimidate people I am doing the same thing I've been doing since I started playing the game - having fun.  Actually, I enjoy the game MORE now so to you I say thank you.


You're welcome for the help on your recruiting poster.  May I suggest an image and a catchy attention grabbing phrase like "Come join LOBR, where we will use charts and TeamSpeak to mold you into something great"

http://prntscr.com/g3w868

"Black Rose, a league where all our stuff is piling up!!"

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Tsar
3 August, 2017, 3:31 PM UTC

Propaganda and heavily subjective perspectives, littered with bias interpretations of events/actions...

The hypocrisy of the Rebel Alliance...


First and foremost, congratulations on being able to take numerous empty beacons, Clueless. Only one of which actually had any 'decent' defence placed in it. To present yourself as a victim and complain about injustices that don't exist is plain nonsensical. This is a war game. Despite the large array of benefits that come with players who decide to spend an extensive amount of money on the game, it is simply not needed. Leagues are able to go far with straightforward common sense and strategy. I am glad you say that you're having fun! Because that is the purpose of the game... Entertainment! But to openly display false statements such as "LOTBR hiding behind their allies" is down right unacceptable. We have been leading this entire 'war' before it even began... Want to explain to me where over 500 million KT defence went? To go on about alliances, while you threaten other leagues to join your cause or face annihilation, or how about presenting the action to back up "Major Plans against LOTBR" My guess is that you'll slip that information under the rug along with all the other little bits that contradict your claims...


Although spending money on this game is NOT a necessity, I would hope that you have enough brain power to realise that this is a pay-to-win game... You should know that an individual who decides to invest money into the game will have an advantage over you... But you don't mention that either do you? So when your league faces another and you are stronger, that isn't considered 'bullying', just superiority... There are two outcomes in regards to victory, and the strongest survives. Despite the 'interesting' politics and absurd morality/ethics that are poured into the game by delusional players, this game is about fighting! And the strongest of the fighters, emerges as the victor.


This fundamental truth of the game can be summarised within a simple narrative:

"Imagine three great nations under three great queens. The first queen writes a great book of law and her rule is just. The second queen builds a high tower and her people climb it to see the stars. The third queen raises an army and conquers everything.

The future belongs to one of these queens. Her rule is harshest and people are unhappy. But she rules.

Of course, it might be that there was another country, with other queens, and in this country they sat down together and made one law and one tower and one army to guard their borders. This is the dream of small minds: a gentle place ringed in spears.

But I do not think those spears will hold against the queen of the country of armies. And that is all that will matter in the end."


All the diplomacy, lies and games hide the objective truth, regarding the utter failure and lunacy of your cause. Have fun spreading false rumours and sniggering behind our backs, but if you continue to fight us, fight us with everything you have, with all your laws and games. We will prove our argument thus.



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Clueless
3 August, 2017, 3:56 PM UTC

Tsar said


To present yourself as a victim and complain about injustices that don't exist is plain nonsensical. This is a war game. Despite the large array of benefits that come with players who decide to spend an extensive amount of money on the game, it is simply not needed. Leagues are able to go far with straightforward common sense and strategy.



First, I am not claiming to be victim of anything.  Certainly not a victim of any LOBR caused casualties.  You haven't hurt me one bit.  So I don't see why I would make the claim of victim.



Second, when you have Bob's billion strategy isn't really necessary.  But your arrogance acts like BR is so far superior in their tactical and planning abilities than all other leagues when in reality, nobody can or will match Bob's spending habit.  Sorry Tsar, you're a pawn in Bob's game just like we all are; you just happen to be on his team.  Leagues go as far as Bob lets them.




To go on about alliances, while you threaten other leagues to join your cause or face annihilation, or how about presenting the action to back up "Major Plans against LOTBR" My guess is that you'll slip that information under the rug along with all the other little bits that contradict your claims...

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have made no threats to other leagues and have attempted to gain zero alliances with new leagues since this began. We're just doing the same thing as we've always done. I think you are confusing my league with another league. It's possible that BR isn't the only league doing this (evidence presented.....your own letter) but you cannot accuse KTR of forcing, tricking or coercing any league into anything. We will work with those leagues who choose for themselves to fight against you. Makes no difference to me who they are. You are simply incorrect in your accusation.  

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Hot_Nickelz
3 August, 2017, 6:37 PM UTC

Nice post Tsar!


Honestly, I'm glad clueless is having fun. Here in BR, we appreciate poor leadership, and poor officers in other leagues. This makes breaking and defeating those leagues easier, as well as supplying us pvp for months while they claim injustice.

You can claim that Bob is the only reason BR wins but that absolutely false. Instead look in the mirror. Your the reason. You do not have the ability to design tactics to beat a bigger opponent. TRUTH!



We could point out that BR won MANY MANY wars before Bob or Windwalker arrived, but why use common sense?

We could point out that BR fought GdG and Craks massive army long before Bob played or any of our members had 1/10th of what crak had!

We kept open war with GdG for OVER a year! No peace! No whining. Of course, crak disappeared as his league quit around him. Sure we avoided crack (called cats) and avoided the 100s of Fbs a day. Yes they won the "official" point war but Ted was off for a week, and 4100 dragons dropped a FB on EVERY castle on our league daily to catch up and pass us.


We also could point out, that yes Bob is big, but Bob is ALSO well supported by our league! We had the scrolls to scroll up Bob and Wind fast (with alot of work and planning). Yes Ted found and recruited them(called being smart). Yes, as a league, other players often spend significant portion of their troops for softening hits to save Bob his troops. I could also say Bob doesn't hit castles! So Bob isn't your problem. Stay out of beacons and keep massive troops in your fort and you won't even see Bob!


Now we should give credit to our other players. To be in BR you MUST be special. Its sink or swim. We have open warfare ALWAYS! You do not want to be attacked-better go elsewhere. We also do not kill people enemies FOR them. We teach our players how to fight and WIN! ESPECIALLY against BIGGER OPPONENTS! ITS ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY! 

Our real strength is our smaller,midsize players! They might not have huge troops, or even help much with beacon/forts BUT they do fight! I suggest contacting Jackzz or Fireballmagnet or Ridgeback. I bet those 3 guys ALONE could kick your league butts from here to the corner!

Its's a requirement to fight, and we do monitor this and boot people if applicable. Many of our players also put significant help in league tourneys(no matter their troop size) so Bob doesn't have to. Called teamwork. We have smart officers, notice the above posts, that were recruited, trained(if necessary), and supported by Ted and the league. 


BR has ALWAYS played this way, always supported their players, always trained their players, and always has found and identified good recruits. Br players TRUST and believe in Ted and his leadership skills, and has never been disappointed.



As evidence of BRs buy-in and trust in Ted------


BR lost all beacons over a year ago to 3 HIGHER ranked leagues then BR that formed a coalition to defeat a lower ranked league. Not one member in BR left BR or even complained in chat! We rebuilt and refined our tactics!(Which took months of work by ALL players)


BR had 16 beacons for months. Guess how many people got DE?       3!           Every single member GAVE UP their DE for the GOOD of league. We also, made sure our members understood why, and how it helped the league. We solicited their support and got it. Not one player left for this reason either. 


IN TED WE TRUST!




Look in the mirror for the blame and recriminations you like to send others way! Your the problem. You could sit and blame the coiners, or it being unfair or whatever you would like to dream up, instead of


 learning how to play,

 learning how to lead,

 learning to be a good officer,

building a good league, (with fighters NOT farmers, and without 30 alliances-that why your ALL farmers)

training your league to fight, 

understanding basic tactics or strategy,

finding and recruiting good officers,

supporting your players so you gain their confidence and buy-in to league goals.


I myself have spent less than 30 dollars on game in over 3 years. Now of course, everyone know I have no idea how to play(I have the mails to prove it) but, then again you could ask my league members of their opinion of me. I bet they have a high opinion. And that is what matters to me. My teammates know what I bring to the league. 

If you would like Clueless, mail me in-game and I will ALLOW you to put a spy in BR so you can see how we operate. In fact, this is our number one recruiting tool! You will change sides. Lol. Yup.


Nickelz
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Clueless
3 August, 2017, 11:13 PM UTC

Hot_Nickelz said:


Nice post Tsar!


Honestly, I'm glad clueless is having fun. Here in BR, we appreciate poor leadership, and poor officers in other leagues. This makes breaking and defeating those leagues easier, as well as supplying us pvp for months while they claim injustice.


Well I guess nobody would know what a bad leader I am more than LOBR.  I'm sure half my league are your alts.  Tough to lead such a crew.  But hey, I have enjoyed being a failure and I will resign myself to continuing to play the game I know nothing about and grow my league so BR gets more satisfaction when they destroy it.

Thank you for the history lesson as well.  I would offer up a lesson on mathematics in return, explaining why all these posts about strategy and tactics are simply ignorant posts based on arrogance or poor understanding of the game mechanics but I lack the time and this audience is, well, so much more knowledgeable than me.

I would also like to respectfully decline the invitation to have a castle in your league.  That game "flaw" does not interest me.  I enjoy the time I spend with KTR.  Spending time with you just wouldn't be as fulfilling.  So thank you, but I must decline.

And so I retreat from this pointless thread, head bowed in shame as I simply am too stupid to do simple math, grasp basic game strategy, overcome unlimited spending or effectively lead my growing league.  Thank you BR for making me appreciate how awesome my league is just a little more than I did before.
 



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Hot_Nickelz
4 August, 2017, 2:30 AM UTC

Clueless said:


Hot_Nickelz said:


Nice post Tsar!


Honestly, I'm glad clueless is having fun. Here in BR, we appreciate poor leadership, and poor officers in other leagues. This makes breaking and defeating those leagues easier, as well as supplying us pvp for months while they claim injustice.


Well I guess nobody would know what a bad leader I am more than LOBR.  I'm sure half my league are your alts.  Tough to lead such a crew.  But hey, I have enjoyed being a failure and I will resign myself to continuing to play the game I know nothing about and grow my league so BR gets more satisfaction when they destroy it.

Thank you for the history lesson as well.  I would offer up a lesson on mathematics in return, explaining why all these posts about strategy and tactics are simply ignorant posts based on arrogance or poor understanding of the game mechanics but I lack the time and this audience is, well, so much more knowledgeable than me.

I would also like to respectfully decline the invitation to have a castle in your league.  That game "flaw" does not interest me.  I enjoy the time I spend with KTR.  Spending time with you just wouldn't be as fulfilling.  So thank you, but I must decline.

And so I retreat from this pointless thread, head bowed in shame as I simply am too stupid to do simple math, grasp basic game strategy, overcome unlimited spending or effectively lead my growing league.  Thank you BR for making me appreciate how awesome my league is just a little more than I did before.

Exactly my point!

How surprising you would play victim.

And I am not surprised you didn't take me up on offer either. Truth hurts

Nickelz
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Stray Dog
4 August, 2017, 3:58 AM UTC


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