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Jun 9, 2016, 07:2206/09/16
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Vladimir Stojanovic said:

onlineplayer01 said:


Hello all.


SO, if the point of BG is to feed 'the invisible bank' resources to get pay out, then shouldnt we use this strategy to feed as much as possible ? -> send few archer + hundreds pikes to Defense BG (that should slaughter the pikes) and finish the BG with defense troops 


Yes you can do that my Lady.

HINT:

Do not use archers and pikes 

why not archer and pike , they are the fastest to build? or you mean use the least efficient resources to ofense/defense ratio?
Jun 9, 2016, 07:3806/09/16
156

My Lady, you need units that have good resources potential for banking

Jun 17, 2016, 09:3006/17/16
Jun 17, 2016, 10:17(edited)
06/17/16
2

Hello Eveyone,


I am a trouble with bg! i assume everyone does. I read every information that is available, but still didn't figured out one important thing.

Everyone says the bgs paying if you loose prev reward + 3-10%.

BUt what if they dont???


I wanted to take our reward 4 times from lvl 89(2 times),88,85. Each and every time i banked my previous reward and +3-10%.

And each and every time i failed, i needed to take reward from much lower level, 71,65,56,53

Which means, i was at +14 million positive balance with ~3k necro when i started yesterday.


and now i am in -40mill!!!!! with 280 dragon and 1100griff as my last reward.



The only thing never mentionied is how to recover from losses and where is my troops?!
a. Because from now on its NOT enough to kill previous reward +extra, that would give me less than invested.
b. At this big minus i need to win more than i lost, and how to do that?


I am big trouble :( Every help is very appreciated. I offer some money transer to someone who can manage to explain me what the hack is happened with my troops and with that knowledge i can recover them.


I really enjoyed this game so far. And i did several bg mission streak every time i ended up with good result(close to zero or even plus)


But yesterday something just changed, and my working tactics failed 4 times.


HELP!?


Jun 17, 2016, 19:0906/17/16
156

devnullicus said:


yes, total resources = gold + iron + food.

total resources = gold + iron + 5% interest 

Jun 19, 2016, 09:0506/19/16
Jun 19, 2016, 20:24(edited)
06/17/16
2

Ok try not panicking but its kinda hard :( I dont understand how can i take back the troops. I have the feeling most probably i cannot take them or just a small portion.

This is anyway Rise of Balur. Stormfall mobile version. I am not sure if that is different than the pc version or not.


This is what happened :


The max was 96 all the time didnt tickled them. I started last reward from 93 at+14mill total sum i have spent all +little and tried to take reward at 94, failed i went down to slighted ones 92, 86, 81 all of them failed eventually 69 payed.

I tried all the time jump back usually successfully jumped 1 or 2 times for example to 69 to 77 than tried again 86 but failed so i got reward from lower again.


I was able to jump to max 79 all the time from lower levels but i wasnt able to jump trough the 80, all the time failed, i a dont understand why.


What do you suggest to do, to take back that 40 mill?

How i am supposed to win more than i lost at this point?



TotalSUM    REWARD    LOSS    BGLVL

+14           49,4              30,5            93

-30            20                 50,3            69

..               28,1              20,7            77 

..               14,8              29,4            63

..               17,8              15               67

..               17,8              17,9            67

..               24,8              18               74

..               10,2              25               56

..               15,45            26,8            64

..               26,9              16,8            76

..               28.7              31               78

..               30,3              28,7            79

-40,2         22                30,52           71   


My last reward is 224dragon 1123griff


Questions:



A. So at this point my bank is?

     i. 0
     ii. -40,2 mill

B. If i add my last reward 22 + 40,2 =62,2. Can i try to take reward from bg level that has 62,2 mill bank level?

C. If i spend only 10 mill of my last reward(50%). Can i take reward from 40,2+10=50,2mill?
    Or is it required to spend my last reward every time (100%)?



Jun 23, 2016, 16:1506/23/16
74
djmoody said:

I don't play the mobile version. It's probably dangerous for me to give you advice as different versions of the games have different BG mechanics - sorry.

But none of those payouts are full payouts.

I don't like the continual half payouts the BG's do now. Makes it difficult to bank up to the appropriate value to get a payout. If the tax is really high then you are continually losing troops every payout making it difficult to assess what is in your bank. None of us truly know what the tax rate is making things a lot of guesswork.

If you think you are banked to about half the value of the 96 you could always just kill that for guaranteed payout, which tend to clear your bank (although BG's are rumoured to be changing today).

Otherwise I would try yellow barring BG's to load appropriately for a higher level BG.

DJ

BGs changing again ... hits head against the wall in frustration
Jun 23, 2016, 18:1506/23/16
718

Camulos said:


djmoody said:


I don't play the mobile version. It's probably dangerous for me to give you advice as different versions of the games have different BG mechanics - sorry.

But none of those payouts are full payouts.

I don't like the continual half payouts the BG's do now. Makes it difficult to bank up to the appropriate value to get a payout. If the tax is really high then you are continually losing troops every payout making it difficult to assess what is in your bank. None of us truly know what the tax rate is making things a lot of guesswork.

If you think you are banked to about half the value of the 96 you could always just kill that for guaranteed payout, which tend to clear your bank (although BG's are rumoured to be changing today).

Otherwise I would try yellow barring BG's to load appropriately for a higher level BG.

DJ

BGs changing again ... hits head against the wall in frustration

who knew and took the advantage did it, not anymore for mortal real ppl

Jun 24, 2016, 07:3106/24/16
Dec 29, 2018, 16:41(edited)
11/05/14
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so wait, I just started to learn everything about the BG's and you guys are telling me that they changed as of yeterday?
Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Jun 24, 2016, 08:1606/24/16
09/17/15
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tardcat said:

so wait, I just started to learn everything about the BG's and you guys are telling me that they changed as of yeterday?
You can check our News and FAQ which I have posted there. There are also some hints about BGs which you can use.
Aug 17, 2016, 19:0908/17/16
05/15/16
67
Well, would love a new strategy to use since this one isn't so hot !
Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Aug 18, 2016, 09:0108/18/16
09/17/15
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zach-rose11 said:

Well, would love a new strategy to use since this one isn't so hot !
We recommend to hit BGs one by one. However, if you still use the old strategy, you will need just the same amount of 1-bar BGs to get a big payout as with the 1-by-1 strategy. Maybe some experienced BG raiders will give you some more hints.
Aug 18, 2016, 10:3808/18/16
04/10/15
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


We recommend to hit BGs one by one. However, if you still use the old strategy, you will need just the same amount of 1-bar BGs to get a big payout as with the 1-by-1 strategy. Maybe some experienced BG raiders will give you some more hints.

My Lady i would like to ask if does this mean that killed troops bank the same if bg is not finished than if this finished??? 

and if mean that, then the killed troops in a non finished bg goes into bank as if the bg were finished ???

Thanks in advance, regards

Aug 18, 2016, 16:5408/18/16
05/15/16
67
@ above post(s) I understood how to yellow bar and make the change work, but as of recently I am just sinking units and the payouts typically just don't leave me ahead, and I have tried a couple methods in the past few days, just wanted to see if anyone else has a guide or even some "helpful  hints" for the noobs like myself =]
Aug 18, 2016, 23:0308/18/16
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Lord Oberon said:

Lord Sison, ALL units count. But those you purchase with sapphires contribute less resources to the "BG bank". It's not a good idea to use them for the BG's. 
Late question: Does this apply to imperials too? I had previously assumed that imperial units counted the same as their non imperial counterparts.
Aug 19, 2016, 19:0308/19/16
74

Thanks DJ. I try to keep imperials for zero loss principle, but do get the occasional * * * * * * up. 

Aug 19, 2016, 19:1908/19/16
156
djmoody said:

I have never coined imperial in large numbers to test but I would assume they count as normal troops just like Eldritch units do.

Even if they don't, not hard to fix - just darken them and then use them.


Thats right Imperial count as normal units
Sep 8, 2016, 08:1409/08/16
12/27/14
70

Hmm a rare foray into the forum again, & here I am posting again !

Just a head`s up to those that may have missed it, Imperials do count towards the bank, but they are not of the same value, as they cost less res. 2 make ! :)

Ok, that`s me, outta the forums for possibly. another year or so.! Lol.


Ciao.

Alyona KolomiitsevaCommunity Manager
Sep 8, 2016, 08:2609/08/16
Sep 8, 2016, 08:26(edited)
09/17/15
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I'd like to add some. All Units do count. But they may have a different impact on your results than you expect. Which means that some of them are much more efficient in PvP warfares.
Oct 29, 2016, 05:3210/29/16
10/02/15
5

JUGLAR DEL VIENTO, 

nice evaluations the fact that u were able to deduce the simple interest in a blind banking system is unimaginable...

well apart from that your theories are really working, mathematics is not my forte but the payouts is all i care and by following your system of raiding a BG, i actually got a huge payout.....


thanks lord juglar, really appreciate ur help 

Oct 29, 2016, 09:3410/29/16
04/10/15
1437

Salamander said:


JUGLAR DEL VIENTO, 

nice evaluations the fact that u were able to deduce the simple interest in a blind banking system is unimaginable...

well apart from that your theories are really working, mathematics is not my forte but the payouts is all i care and by following your system of raiding a BG, i actually got a huge payout.....


thanks lord juglar, really appreciate ur help 

you are welcome my lord

glad to hear that people still finds usefull the article, hope you continue getting big payouts

any further doubt ill be here to answer it

Regards and good haunting