Banking Battlegrounds

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u3jk
15 March, 2016, 3:51 PM UTC

Se puede conseguir esta información en español ?


MaPaStrong
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u3jk
15 March, 2016, 3:52 PM UTC
Juglar del Viento said:

There are certain core ideas that are needed to clearly understand

These ideas will help players to better understand the system and get rewards.

1) BG’s Works on a bank system

2) The Big Rewards are given once the bank has been paid, plus interest

3) Any Small Reward increases the bank, plus interest

4) Every BG needs its own amount banked to get a big payout from it.

 

The bank represents a total value of the last reward you received from a Regular Bg. This value must be considered a loan, and the next reward will arrive after successfully eliminating a mission once the loan has been satisfied, with interest. 

Nothing in this game is a guarantee, especially when dealing with mathematical algorithms. There are variances, changes and randomness added all the time.

HOW WE HAVE CONSTRUCT OUR BANK

The bank value, also known as ‘The Bank’ is what you need to repay before you get another reward. By adding 12.5% interest to the bank, you reduce the chance of coming in under your bank. Technically the bank should reward you as soon as you reach it, however, it doesn’t always. The Interest will reduce your efficiency in reaching the bank, but help ensure a reward when you arrive.

Can the interest be reduced? Yes, but you run the chance of underestimating and by undershooting the bank on a successful elimination, may either run out of missions or overspend by too much to make the next reward profitable.

Ok, then lets go with an example:

I have received my last big payout lets say, 2800 necromancers.

I have to construct my bank from now and the first i have to do is to set how much in resources are those 2800 necromancers, so i realized they are 29.708.000 in resources.

Now i have to add the interest of 12.5% to that amount: 3.713.500 so my new bank to construct is a total of 33.421.500 of resources.

I begin to spend troops yellowing all bgs i have in my Eagle nest and in some moment i know i have spent 34.000.000. Then is the moment to see which bg is going to pay me. I noticed i have yellowed a level 65 which need arround 32.500.000 to bank for a payout, so i finish it and i should receive a big payout from it.

The process beguins again.

What happens if i finish one bg during my banking run and it pays me a small payout???

Then you have to calculate how much in resources is that small payout.

In the example, that i have to bank 33.421.500 for my big payout i finish one bg and it pays me let say 210 necromancers in a level 58. Then we have to add that amount to the bank plus the 12.5% of interest.

210 necros  2.228.100 resources

12.5% interés  278.512 resources

Total to add _>2.506.612

So now my new bank to construct is 33.421.500 + 2.506.612 = 35.928.112 resources.

This have to be done for every small payout i could get during my banking run.

The point is completing the bank and get the big payout when bank is full and then start all process again.

Hope this can help you all.

Regards



MaPaStrong
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
17 March, 2016, 8:54 AM UTC

u3jk said:


Se puede conseguir esta información en español ?


En que tenga un rato te la traduzco y te la pongo en el tema español del hilo bugs

un saludo
Resistance Is Futile
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Juglar del Viento
Moderator
7 April, 2016, 11:22 AM UTC

Real nice work Lord Jumy

thanks for sharing


Resistance Is Futile
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jumy
7 April, 2016, 12:29 PM UTC

remove my post,

stop with joke
The truth hurts
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onlineplayer01
9 June, 2016, 7:02 AM UTC

Hello all.


SO, if the point of BG is to feed 'the invisible bank' resources to get pay out, then shouldnt we use this strategy to feed as much as possible ? -> send few archer + hundreds pikes to Defense BG (that should slaughter the pikes) and finish the BG with defense troops 

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Vladimir Stojanovic
9 June, 2016, 7:09 AM UTC

onlineplayer01 said:


Hello all.


SO, if the point of BG is to feed 'the invisible bank' resources to get pay out, then shouldnt we use this strategy to feed as much as possible ? -> send few archer + hundreds pikes to Defense BG (that should slaughter the pikes) and finish the BG with defense troops 


Yes you can do that my Lady.

HINT:

Do not use archers and pikes 

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onlineplayer01
9 June, 2016, 7:22 AM UTC
Vladimir Stojanovic said:

onlineplayer01 said:


Hello all.


SO, if the point of BG is to feed 'the invisible bank' resources to get pay out, then shouldnt we use this strategy to feed as much as possible ? -> send few archer + hundreds pikes to Defense BG (that should slaughter the pikes) and finish the BG with defense troops 


Yes you can do that my Lady.

HINT:

Do not use archers and pikes 

why not archer and pike , they are the fastest to build? or you mean use the least efficient resources to ofense/defense ratio?
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Vladimir Stojanovic
9 June, 2016, 7:38 AM UTC

My Lady, you need units that have good resources potential for banking

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djmoody
17 June, 2016, 2:22 AM UTC

Yep BG's are about resource. Load more resource into them :)

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shepmacs
17 June, 2016, 9:30 AM UTC

Hello Eveyone,


I am a trouble with bg! i assume everyone does. I read every information that is available, but still didn't figured out one important thing.

Everyone says the bgs paying if you loose prev reward + 3-10%.

BUt what if they dont???


I wanted to take our reward 4 times from lvl 89(2 times),88,85. Each and every time i banked my previous reward and +3-10%.

And each and every time i failed, i needed to take reward from much lower level, 71,65,56,53

Which means, i was at +14 million positive balance with ~3k necro when i started yesterday.


and now i am in -40mill!!!!! with 280 dragon and 1100griff as my last reward.



The only thing never mentionied is how to recover from losses and where is my troops?!
a. Because from now on its NOT enough to kill previous reward +extra, that would give me less than invested.
b. At this big minus i need to win more than i lost, and how to do that?


I am big trouble :( Every help is very appreciated. I offer some money transer to someone who can manage to explain me what the hack is happened with my troops and with that knowledge i can recover them.


I really enjoyed this game so far. And i did several bg mission streak every time i ended up with good result(close to zero or even plus)


But yesterday something just changed, and my working tactics failed 4 times.


HELP!?


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Vladimir Stojanovic
17 June, 2016, 7:09 PM UTC

devnullicus said:


yes, total resources = gold + iron + food.

total resources = gold + iron + 5% interest 

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djmoody
18 June, 2016, 5:53 AM UTC

Vladimir Stojanovic said:


devnullicus said:


yes, total resources = gold + iron + food.

total resources = gold + iron + 5% interest 

The food is part of the resource banking - unless they literally just changed how they have been working for the last 3 years.

You don't need to study BG mechanics to know that - why would they have included Pathfinders, Reavers and Chimera if food wasn't included?

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djmoody
18 June, 2016, 6:01 AM UTC

shepmacs said:


Hello Eveyone,


I am a trouble with bg! i assume everyone does. I read every information that is available, but still didn't figured out one important thing.

Everyone says the bgs paying if you loose prev reward + 3-10%.

BUt what if they dont???


I wanted to take our reward 4 times from lvl 89(2 times),88,85. Each and every time i banked my previous reward and +3-10%.

And each and every time i failed, i needed to take reward from much lower level, 71,65,56,53

Which means, i was at +14 million positive balance with ~3k necro when i started yesterday.


and now i am in -40mill!!!!! with 280 dragon and 1100griff as my last reward.



The only thing never mentionied is how to recover from losses and where is my troops?!
a. Because from now on its NOT enough to kill previous reward +extra, that would give me less than invested.
b. At this big minus i need to win more than i lost, and how to do that?


I am big trouble :( Every help is very appreciated. I offer some money transer to someone who can manage to explain me what the hack is happened with my troops and with that knowledge i can recover them.


I really enjoyed this game so far. And i did several bg mission streak every time i ended up with good result(close to zero or even plus)


But yesterday something just changed, and my working tactics failed 4 times.


HELP!?


You can't lose 40m in one day on level 89's. So first up don't panic.

The average banking value of a lvl 89 is approx 75/76m. So if you have banked 40m you aren't in line for a major payout yet.

It looks like you will have to do some more BG's.


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shepmacs
19 June, 2016, 9:05 AM UTC

Ok try not panicking but its kinda hard :( I dont understand how can i take back the troops. I have the feeling most probably i cannot take them or just a small portion.

This is anyway Rise of Balur. Stormfall mobile version. I am not sure if that is different than the pc version or not.


This is what happened :


The max was 96 all the time didnt tickled them. I started last reward from 93 at+14mill total sum i have spent all +little and tried to take reward at 94, failed i went down to slighted ones 92, 86, 81 all of them failed eventually 69 payed.

I tried all the time jump back usually successfully jumped 1 or 2 times for example to 69 to 77 than tried again 86 but failed so i got reward from lower again.


I was able to jump to max 79 all the time from lower levels but i wasnt able to jump trough the 80, all the time failed, i a dont understand why.


What do you suggest to do, to take back that 40 mill?

How i am supposed to win more than i lost at this point?



TotalSUM    REWARD    LOSS    BGLVL

+14           49,4              30,5            93

-30            20                 50,3            69

..               28,1              20,7            77 

..               14,8              29,4            63

..               17,8              15               67

..               17,8              17,9            67

..               24,8              18               74

..               10,2              25               56

..               15,45            26,8            64

..               26,9              16,8            76

..               28.7              31               78

..               30,3              28,7            79

-40,2         22                30,52           71   


My last reward is 224dragon 1123griff


Questions:



A. So at this point my bank is?

     i. 0
     ii. -40,2 mill

B. If i add my last reward 22 + 40,2 =62,2. Can i try to take reward from bg level that has 62,2 mill bank level?

C. If i spend only 10 mill of my last reward(50%). Can i take reward from 40,2+10=50,2mill?
    Or is it required to spend my last reward every time (100%)?



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djmoody
23 June, 2016, 12:37 PM UTC

I don't play the mobile version. It's probably dangerous for me to give you advice as different versions of the games have different BG mechanics - sorry.

But none of those payouts are full payouts.

I don't like the continual half payouts the BG's do now. Makes it difficult to bank up to the appropriate value to get a payout. If the tax is really high then you are continually losing troops every payout making it difficult to assess what is in your bank. None of us truly know what the tax rate is making things a lot of guesswork.

If you think you are banked to about half the value of the 96 you could always just kill that for guaranteed payout, which tend to clear your bank (although BG's are rumoured to be changing today).

Otherwise I would try yellow barring BG's to load appropriately for a higher level BG.

DJ

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Camulos
23 June, 2016, 4:15 PM UTC
djmoody said:

I don't play the mobile version. It's probably dangerous for me to give you advice as different versions of the games have different BG mechanics - sorry.

But none of those payouts are full payouts.

I don't like the continual half payouts the BG's do now. Makes it difficult to bank up to the appropriate value to get a payout. If the tax is really high then you are continually losing troops every payout making it difficult to assess what is in your bank. None of us truly know what the tax rate is making things a lot of guesswork.

If you think you are banked to about half the value of the 96 you could always just kill that for guaranteed payout, which tend to clear your bank (although BG's are rumoured to be changing today).

Otherwise I would try yellow barring BG's to load appropriately for a higher level BG.

DJ

BGs changing again ... hits head against the wall in frustration
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jumy
23 June, 2016, 6:15 PM UTC

Camulos said:


djmoody said:


I don't play the mobile version. It's probably dangerous for me to give you advice as different versions of the games have different BG mechanics - sorry.

But none of those payouts are full payouts.

I don't like the continual half payouts the BG's do now. Makes it difficult to bank up to the appropriate value to get a payout. If the tax is really high then you are continually losing troops every payout making it difficult to assess what is in your bank. None of us truly know what the tax rate is making things a lot of guesswork.

If you think you are banked to about half the value of the 96 you could always just kill that for guaranteed payout, which tend to clear your bank (although BG's are rumoured to be changing today).

Otherwise I would try yellow barring BG's to load appropriately for a higher level BG.

DJ

BGs changing again ... hits head against the wall in frustration

who knew and took the advantage did it, not anymore for mortal real ppl

The truth hurts
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tardcat
24 June, 2016, 7:31 AM UTC
so wait, I just started to learn everything about the BG's and you guys are telling me that they changed as of yeterday?
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Alyona Kolomiitseva
Community Manager
24 June, 2016, 8:16 AM UTC
tardcat said:

so wait, I just started to learn everything about the BG's and you guys are telling me that they changed as of yeterday?
You can check our News and FAQ which I have posted there. There are also some hints about BGs which you can use.
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