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May 16, 2018, 17:0905/16/18
11/27/14
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Stop playing BG!!!

For me is GAME OVER on BG.


I think Plarium is getting greedy and rised grew the BG TAX.


My last BG i did 500k BG in 2 days.

My bank was loaded with 550mil in resurces and i got back only 420mil payout.



The Tax in the past it was 5% of all units that u get from BG...but now it is a lot more.

My real bank with tax 0 is 900mil . So...if I didnt play BG i'l had all that units.


Good Job Plarium !

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May 16, 2018, 19:5505/16/18
04/12/16
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Do you count food?
May 16, 2018, 19:5705/16/18
11/27/14
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Jezebel said:


Lord Mark!!


I thought you said you were stopping after these payouts!! https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-discussion/55010_bg-reward-record/?post=450636


So are you saying you repaid all the resources to the bank from those payouts and another 550 mil in resources plus the BG tax?

Yes my lady !

I loaded all that ...but...no good reward.

After this BG sesion i lost 40mil off force :(


So...I will not touch a BG ! 

May 17, 2018, 03:1505/17/18
09/29/16
195

Hi Mark,


It has been a while we did not chat. Hope all is well there, buddy.


I agree totally. Even though I do not play BG's even near the level you do. I recently found my little black notebook of my BG reports when I was a noob. Compared to today, those were the good old days.You actually got some rewards for the time you spent.


Plarium actually gave some incentive to play BG's back then. Now there is little to none.


Now, you have to be willing to sacrifice everything you have in order to have a small hope to win. Yes I doubled my troops in last league tourney but do I really have to go down to zero for that to happen?


MAYBE happen?


I stopped Bg's 3 hours into tourney because I knew I would lose everything if I continued. There is NO incentive, Plarium. Fix it please.



May 17, 2018, 07:1005/17/18
08/30/17
221

Jaywalker SC said:


Hi Mark,


It has been a while we did not chat. Hope all is well there, buddy.


I agree totally. Even though I do not play BG's even near the level you do. I recently found my little black notebook of my BG reports when I was a noob. Compared to today, those were the good old days.You actually got some rewards for the time you spent.


Plarium actually gave some incentive to play BG's back then. Now there is little to none.


Now, you have to be willing to sacrifice everything you have in order to have a small hope to win. Yes I doubled my troops in last league tourney but do I really have to go down to zero for that to happen?


MAYBE happen?


I stopped Bg's 3 hours into tourney because I knew I would lose everything if I continued. There is NO incentive, Plarium. Fix it please.



Hi!


In this moment you can play BGs only if you have enough infantry and calvery and want to change them in occult and bestiary...also you'll make some tournament  and  XP points...it's like an exchange office and like all the exchange offices you'll loose\pay a little commission calculated at how much troops you spent. And to continue the resemblance there are some bad exchange offices who steals everything - so, you can loose everything :-)

Best regards!

Bogdan
  
May 17, 2018, 07:2205/17/18
09/29/16
195

Exchange office?


Maybe ... but BG's has become to look more and more like  a Las Vegas or Macau casino scene than part of a strategy game.


Of course.
May 17, 2018, 07:5705/17/18
07/25/15
2634

Jaywalker SC said:


Exchange office?


Maybe ... but BG's has become to look more and more like  a Las Vegas or Macau casino scene than part of a strategy game.


Of course.

To many uncertain elements. I only do BG's as part of league tournaments to help the league, and then throw in like pathfinder cav. I don't really keep tabs on it all, but my impression is, it doesn't pay off even though sometimes I get a chunk of units back now and then. Imho BG's should been a grind element for players to get rewarded for invested time. Compare it to like dungeons and similar in other mmos out there. When you complete there is always a reward at the end (and during), you just never know what it is, but there is a reward for your time spent. With BG's here you can spend all your army and then, "sorry bud, but not enough cash spent, please insert another coin.


Tbh, I would changed the entire system, so every BG you did would have a payout/exchange based on the units/resources you lost in the acetuyal BG you did. . If you do a low level BG, and lose hardly any units you won't get much. If you do a higher level BG you would lose a lot and get more. You would know what you in for, due to the "tax" you still get back less than what you put in, but you made a exchange for some better troops and saved some time. The most important thing, you wouldn't risk cripple yourself being left with no army for other purposes (like PLAY THE GAME).



May 17, 2018, 08:2605/17/18
04/10/15
1437

Dear Lords

as far i know bg system still is the same as always 

im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same

be aware, lord Mark, that u play i super high levels to the tax to return to bgs could be eternal, however you can show a SS of your last payout and tell us what you have returned.

Regards

May 17, 2018, 08:3205/17/18
07/25/15
2634
Juglar del Viento said:


im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same


Doesn't this kinda prove the system is a dud and should have a overhaul to make it more engaging for the players?
May 17, 2018, 11:1805/17/18
May 17, 2018, 11:21(edited)
12/18/14
1835

Juglar del Viento said:


Dear Lords

as far i know bg system still is the same as always 

im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same

be aware, lord Mark, that u play i super high levels to the tax to return to bgs could be eternal, however you can show a SS of your last payout and tell us what you have returned.

Regards

I posted the link to his last rewards in my initial reply - personally if I had gotten those payouts I would have stopped and never played again


There is life in bg after a big payout you just need to be patient enough to build the troops and repay the bank over time rather than spend your rewards on it


This is where the build times for troops become a real issue for us - we could play bg more if build times were faster
May 17, 2018, 14:2505/17/18
07/25/15
2634

Jezebel said:


Juglar del Viento said:


Dear Lords

as far i know bg system still is the same as always 

im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same

be aware, lord Mark, that u play i super high levels to the tax to return to bgs could be eternal, however you can show a SS of your last payout and tell us what you have returned.

Regards

I posted the link to his last rewards in my initial reply - personally if I had gotten those payouts I would have stopped and never played again


There is life in bg after a big payout you just need to be patient enough to build the troops and repay the bank over time rather than spend your rewards on it


This is where the build times for troops become a real issue for us - we could play bg more if build times were faster

Would be better if there was no bank that locked away resources. So you would get a instant payout based on resources lost for each BG you do. Rewards would increase with level of BG you do as you need to invest more resources (loss's) in complete them. That way, no one would find themselves in a position they locked away most of their army if not all in a silly bank, viretualy keep them from playing the game other than login to queue up units to throw into a bg to hope you will unlock your units again. The system as it is, is just a delayed conversion with a tax applied. Remove the delay and people would be more prone to spend more time on the game imho. 
May 17, 2018, 22:5705/17/18
08/03/14
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as stated earlier, i only use the BGs to exchance infantry and cav for higher units. 


eventually i'll max out my bank and wont be able to produce enough to put in for a pay out. so even that strategy is a dead end aftger a while. 
May 18, 2018, 14:3005/18/18
11/27/14
499

Juglar del Viento said:


Dear Lords

as far i know bg system still is the same as always 

im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same

be aware, lord Mark, that u play i super high levels to the tax to return to bgs could be eternal, however you can show a SS of your last payout and tell us what you have returned.

Regards


This is last big payout...

For my bank this is poket change...
May 18, 2018, 15:0705/18/18
12/18/14
1835
Lord Mark said:

Juglar del Viento said:


Dear Lords

as far i know bg system still is the same as always 

im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same

be aware, lord Mark, that u play i super high levels to the tax to return to bgs could be eternal, however you can show a SS of your last payout and tell us what you have returned.

Regards


This is last big payout...

For my bank this is poket change...
I guess my question is ... You reloaded 40k necros in the hopes of getting what?  Necros are the best reward you could hope for :/
May 18, 2018, 17:1605/18/18
11/27/14
499

Jezebel said:


Lord Mark said:


Juglar del Viento said:


Dear Lords

as far i know bg system still is the same as always 

im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same

be aware, lord Mark, that u play i super high levels to the tax to return to bgs could be eternal, however you can show a SS of your last payout and tell us what you have returned.

Regards


This is last big payout...

For my bank this is poket change...
I guess my question is ... You reloaded 40k necros in the hopes of getting what?  Necros are the best reward you could hope for :/

yes my Lady!

Reloaded 40k necros + 50k pathfinder+ 11k reaver+ 2k dragons+ 500wivern+ 4k warlock+ 500 chimera+ 10k demons...+++


May 19, 2018, 11:4405/19/18
10/31/14
1897

ultimate BG rules


BG have a spin ratio or probability . this spin is influenced by factors. Factors determine whether, when, and what is going to be your payment. For BG to pay you must satisfy all this factors. unfortunately you and many failed to account for all factors and thus fail to get a reward.

Bank and tax are not the only factors


May 19, 2018, 12:3605/19/18
11/27/14
499

Oracle said:


ultimate BG rules


BG have a spin ratio or probability . this spin is influenced by factors. Factors determine whether, when, and what is going to be your payment. For BG to pay you must satisfy all this factors. unfortunately you and many failed to account for all factors and thus fail to get a reward.

Bank and tax are not the only factors


Can u give us one example of that factors you talk about ?

I know that if i get X reward...to get a bigger reward I put in X+25%.

In my case i putted in X+25%=125% and I got back 75%...
May 19, 2018, 13:4905/19/18
May 19, 2018, 13:52(edited)
12/18/14
1835

Lord Mark said:


Jezebel said:


Lord Mark said:


Juglar del Viento said:


Dear Lords

as far i know bg system still is the same as always 

im retired from bgs since my last payout was some months ago in a 90 or 95 (know i dont remember) and it was too much to return but as i said i have not hear anything about changes, so the mechanism should be the same

be aware, lord Mark, that u play i super high levels to the tax to return to bgs could be eternal, however you can show a SS of your last payout and tell us what you have returned.

Regards


This is last big payout...

For my bank this is poket change...
I guess my question is ... You reloaded 40k necros in the hopes of getting what?  Necros are the best reward you could hope for :/

yes my Lady!

Reloaded 40k necros + 50k pathfinder+ 11k reaver+ 2k dragons+ 500wivern+ 4k warlock+ 500 chimera+ 10k demons...+++


I guess my point is that the 40k necros + 8k golems is one of the best rewards you can get from bg - for PVP necros are one of the best troops to have so why would you put them back in?


You can play bg in the future by BUILDING units to use in bg to repay your bank rather than pay it with your rewards - yes it takes a long time but that's when you play other aspects of the game - pvp tourneys give demon or warlock rewards which helps you gain more troops to put towards your bank - patience is a virtue and I have also learned from mistakes playing bg - you have to know when to STOP and keep your rewards - it would be nice to be able to play them weekly but that is just not the case you can't expect to always gain we have been saying that for years .....
May 19, 2018, 13:5805/19/18
12/18/14
1835
Lord Mark said:

Oracle said:


ultimate BG rules


BG have a spin ratio or probability . this spin is influenced by factors. Factors determine whether, when, and what is going to be your payment. For BG to pay you must satisfy all this factors. unfortunately you and many failed to account for all factors and thus fail to get a reward.

Bank and tax are not the only factors


Can u give us one example of that factors you talk about ?

I know that if i get X reward...to get a bigger reward I put in X+25%.

In my case i putted in X+25%=125% and I got back 75%...
yes please give us an example 
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May 19, 2018, 17:4805/19/18
10/04/13
3773
IronApex said:

as stated earlier, i only use the BGs to exchance infantry and cav for higher units. 


eventually i'll max out my bank and wont be able to produce enough to put in for a pay out. so even that strategy is a dead end aftger a while. 
That's when you go do some pvp to clear up space :P