can you explain what "equipped items" are?

Sir Dan Saul Knight said:

That is my understanding, they are units like any other with offence and def stats. So with boosts and items that off and def gets boosted just like any other.

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I don't see bonuses for "equipped items" on my GWD but I do see it on my Griffs I have defense relics but the value for applied items on my griffs is 43% so our legendaries are not getting bonuses from something that our regular troops do so just curious if that is the hero gear - the crystal bonus does show specifically as Veyon's Speed to my GWD

Not that I care at this point just curiosity and I don't care to have it changed if it is the hero gear because there are massive hammers with far more legendaries than I have lol

Jezebel said:

Not that I care at this point just curiosity and I don't care to have it changed if it is the hero gear because there are massive hammers with far more legendaries than I have lol

That was my main point on this subject

Many of these boosts and bonuses are for coiners only and the effect is multiplied because of the vast number of units in their armies

Worse than that is the fact that Champion bonuses are applied ON TOP of all other bonuses. (up to 112% extra)

Even the temporary buffs from Flag tournaments are designed for the big coiner leagues with forts upgraded to high levels

It looks like plarium only removed Hero Equipment bonuses from Legendaries, Castle Guards and Wraiths, yet they maintained Hero Ability bonuses - Illogical

This just seems like an admission that Hero Equip bonuses are too generous, giving up to 70% on all units simply by swapping rings around.

https://prnt.sc/kpg163

At least we have the option to upgrade castle walls and spirit wardens plus adding improvements, but beacons and forts are impossible to defend for any normal leagues

Boosts, Buffs and Bonuses are an essential part of the game, but Stormfall devs have gone too far .... turning this server into a cash cow

Hi there everyone, an interesting topic has come about, do the bonuses to troop hitpoints gained from upgrades of lost arts, crystals, hero equipment, dragonstone and buildings as well as the timed hitpoints boosters bought with saphires or soulstones  affect the hitpoints on our Legendaries, Wraiths, Special beast and occult troop types that can only be won in some tourneys or brought in packs and spying units as they have a defense points bonus too, to show proof from my end i will sshot my legendaries and my spies before a boost is applied then after to show how it works, as you can see from mine, yes those boosts work on all of these troop types

the before screenshots: 

and the after a 20% timed boosters on offense and defense have been activated

Snowgoon said:

Jezebel said:

Not that I care at this point just curiosity and I don't care to have it changed if it is the hero gear because there are massive hammers with far more legendaries than I have lol

That was my main point on this subject

Many of these boosts and bonuses are for coiners only and the effect is multiplied because of the vast number of units in their armies

Worse than that is the fact that Champion bonuses are applied ON TOP of all other bonuses. (up to 112% extra)

Even the temporary buffs from Flag tournaments are designed for the big coiner leagues with forts upgraded to high levels

It looks like plarium only removed Hero Equipment bonuses from Legendaries, Castle Guards and Wraiths, yet they maintained Hero Ability bonuses - Illogical

This just seems like an admission that Hero Equip bonuses are too generous, giving up to 70% on all units simply by swapping rings around.

https://prnt.sc/kpg163

At least we have the option to upgrade castle walls and spirit wardens plus adding improvements, but beacons and forts are impossible to defend for any normal leagues

Boosts, Buffs and Bonuses are an essential part of the game, but Stormfall devs have gone too far .... turning this server into a cash cow

but they aren't just for coiners if you play you can earn the bonuses - although it is faster to buy sketches than earn them but I would NEVER have upgraded my buildings if it weren't for the bonuses we get - i raid for resources i don't buy them so there is no need to have more production

my barns and warehouses are not levelled up much just the barns to the point of where i needed the food storage to upgrade chimera

Sir Dan Saul knight, if you plan it right the flag tourney is very easy, my league captures over 50 flags within the 1st hour of the game with 100 wyverns to each level 5 and level 8 fort that has the tick above it, you just have to make sure you have a few players online ready to play when it starts, then just send to those forts closest to your castles going outwards, after the 1st hour we have gathered enough points to stay in top 10 for the whole duration of the tourney with no need to hunt flags anymore

Sir Dan Saul knight, if you plan it right the flag tourney is very easy, my league captures over 50 flags within the 1st hour of the game with 100 wyverns to each level 5 and level 8 fort that has the tick above it, you just have to make sure you have a few players online ready to play when it starts, then just send to those forts closest to your castles going outwards, after the 1st hour we have gathered enough points to stay in top 10 for the whole duration of the tourney with no need to hunt flags anymore

we play it for the buffs and debuffs, those come in real handy for us 

Biohazard, I play server 1, we dont start taking flags untill the tourney starts in my league and there is a good reason why we do this, as I saw it stated in the forum that the flags take a few seconds to load up after the tourney starts.

I dont know if anyone else has seen this but only forts in your teir will show to collect flags from meaning we cannot see forts to take flags from that are not in our teir, I know this because the game wouldn't let us see our sister league forts to be able to take their flags they had offered to us so sending out to every fort before the tourney starts can be a waste of a lot of time.

The other thing I saw is sometimes other leagues get the time wrong hitting to early and the empty fort still has its flag with 1hr cool down timer on, I then wait for the cool down timer to run out and take those flags myself. In our teir we are ranked 3 overall at the moment and it looks like we will hold onto that spot with 5 buffs and 2 debuffs for reward this time

How we work it is to go to the world map, let it load up and tick off all war challenges, league castles and beacons so only forts show and send out fast from the world map, we always activate our offense boosters and autohide before we start playing the tourney so we are ready to go as soon as it starts

Sir Dan Saul Knight, you are not being patronized, sorry if i come across that way to you, I'm talking to you as plaver to player, this is how we play the flag tourney and our aim is always to get into top 10 for the buffs and debuffs and we have been doing this for a long time very sucessfully, if I didn't know what I was talking about  through ingame experience I wouldnt have said anything, you play the flag tourney differently and that is your choice but my league will still play the same way as we always have been simply because our system works for us everytime to achieve what we set out to do, all I was doing was explaining how we play the flag tourney on a sucessfull strike rate system for gaining top 10 in the flag tourney

Limad, you are correct, the time and day the tourney starts does really make all the difference in picking up those easy flags, sometimes it starts on times I am at work and I dont get home untill half an hour after the tourney has started, I still gain flags but no where near as many as I do when im home at tourney starting time and yeah, holding the flag tourney over a few days wont cause leagues to attack the high end forts that are well stacked with defense

BG SLAYER said:

Biohazard, I play server 1, we dont start taking flags untill the tourney starts in my league and there is a good reason why we do this, as I saw it stated in the forum that the flags take a few seconds to load up after the tourney starts.

I dont know if anyone else has seen this but only forts in your teir will show to collect flags from meaning we cannot see forts to take flags from that are not in our teir, I know this because the game wouldn't let us see our sister league forts to be able to take their flags they had offered to us so sending out to every fort before the tourney starts can be a waste of a lot of time.

The other thing I saw is sometimes other leagues get the time wrong hitting to early and the empty fort still has its flag with 1hr cool down timer on, I then wait for the cool down timer to run out and take those flags myself. In our teir we are ranked 3 overall at the moment and it looks like we will hold onto that spot with 5 buffs and 2 debuffs for reward this time

How we work it is to go to the world map, let it load up and tick off all war challenges, league castles and beacons so only forts show and send out fast from the world map, we always activate our offense boosters and autohide before we start playing the tourney so we are ready to go as soon as it starts

Sir Dan Saul Knight, you are not being patronized, sorry if i come across that way to you, I'm talking to you as plaver to player, this is how we play the flag tourney and our aim is always to get into top 10 for the buffs and debuffs and we have been doing this for a long time very sucessfully, if I didn't know what I was talking about  through ingame experience I wouldnt have said anything, you play the flag tourney differently and that is your choice but my league will still play the same way as we always have been simply because our system works for us everytime to achieve what we set out to do, all I was doing was explaining how we play the flag tourney on a sucessfull strike rate system for gaining top 10 in the flag tourney

Limad, you are correct, the time and day the tourney starts does really make all the difference in picking up those easy flags, sometimes it starts on times I am at work and I dont get home untill half an hour after the tourney has started, I still gain flags but no where near as many as I do when im home at tourney starting time and yeah, holding the flag tourney over a few days wont cause leagues to attack the high end forts that are well stacked with defense

We consider Dark Plains on the Plarium server "server 1" - You play on facebook

The flag tournament is pretty much done in the first 5 seconds of the tournament on "our" Dark Plains and anyone who ranks starts sending their attacks prior to the tournament starting so they land as soon as the flags are in the forts to take

as for ones with timers on them where there may be a flag remaining we usually only see about 3 or 4 and that is from leagues that have taken flags but lost their own and will lose the ones they have as soon as the timer is done - I personally don't bother sitting there waiting for it what we get in the first couple of seconds is what we get - also those flags may not be in the right tier for us ....

Sir Dan Saul Knight said:

BG SLAYER said:

if you plan it right the flag tourney is very easy

That is patronising. You are telling me if only I planned it out like you then I would find it easy like you. 

You then go on to explain how to plan it "right" failing to understand that your advice is highly sub optimal which was reasonably obvious if you had paid any attention to what was posted "that the flags were gone in the first second". I even suggested what might be the answer, "Maybe there is a difference between servers". It's like you chose to completely ignore what was posted and still go on a lecture about how you do things regardless of how pointless that was going to be to the discussion. 

This is a bit of a recurring style, not a one-off and it certainly wasn't simply "explaining how we play the flag tourney" (ask others if you don't believe me).

PS there is no server lag to flags appearing, certainly hasn't been on my server when I have done the tournament (I repeat again "done within the first second - and I am not exaggerating that is literal). Possible there is lag on yours and your is different for some reason.

You are not the only one who sees the responses as patronizing, the written word can be misconstrued but BG Slayer is not aware of our history and who are the veterans of the game (I don't include myself but I learned from the vets!!) 

Sir Dan Saul Knight, you see it as a patronising lecture, I see it as sometimes useful information, When I see players giving advice on how they play certain tournaments, or the methods they use to take down beacons, kill castles or even with defense walling team advice, I take in the information and use it to help compliment what we already use, Jezebel's league does well in the flag tourney too as she has just said which means her league is using the right stratedgy too and any info she gave on this I would take in if we wer'nt already applying her tips she has given here too, its not often players are willing to share info on how they are able to sucessfully gain wins in tourneys over and over again

What does become boring is not having any competition to play these tourneys with, winning all the time can get boring, my league does not aim for spot 1 in top 10, anywhere in top 10 is usefull to us as we do use the debuffs as well and 4 debuffs can be very handy sometimes, I'm still learning about you all and your ways as you are mine, but advice and stratedgy tips on the game if you don't already use the same methods are always useful in 1 way or another

you said you only played the first 3 flag tourneys with all easy flags being gone within a few seconds, even Jezebel and Biohazard mentioned this about the easy flags being gone fast too and yes that happens on the dark plains facebook server too but we still get our fair share of easy flags to get us in top 10 every time and so does Jezebel's league

you may see the flag tourney as useless but some of us play it because of the benefits those buffs and debuffs gives us for 7 days, thats why we do it, this time round I even found a few safe level forts with something in them to kill so i gained individual rewards from the duel tourney too, shame there wasn't any pvp tourney this weekend though

Sir Dan Saul Knight, you see it as a patronising lecture, I see it as sometimes useful information, When I see players giving advice on how they play certain tournaments, or the methods they use to take down beacons, kill castles or even with defense walling team advice, I take in the information and use it to help compliment what we already use, Jezebel's league does well in the flag tourney too as she has just said which means her league is using the right stratedgy too and any info she gave on this I would take in if we wer'nt already applying her tips she has given here too, its not often players are willing to share info on how they are able to sucessfully gain wins in tourneys over and over again

What does become boring is not having any competition to play these tourneys with, winning all the time can get boring, my league does not aim for spot 1 in top 10, anywhere in top 10 is usefull to us as we do use the debuffs as well and 4 debuffs can be very handy sometimes, I'm still learning about you all and your ways as you are mine, but advice and stratedgy tips on the game if you don't already use the same methods are always useful in 1 way or another

you said you only played the first 3 flag tourneys with all easy flags being gone within a few seconds, even Jezebel and Biohazard mentioned this about the easy flags being gone fast too and yes that happens on the dark plains facebook server too but we still get our fair share of easy flags to get us in top 10 every time and so does Jezebel's league

you may see the flag tourney as useless but some of us play it because of the benefits those buffs and debuffs gives us for 7 days, thats why we do it, this time round I even found a few safe level forts with something in them to kill so i gained individual rewards from the duel tourney too, shame there wasn't any pvp tourney this weekend though

Jezebel, yes there is like a 10 second delay in the flag placings after the tourney starts on the facebook server 1 dark plains, generally I have to refresh the game after the tourney starts before I can see the flags on the map

roadstar Pitbull said:

Perhaps if it was suggested and implemented in facebook fist,, then maybe we could see it.

We are always told each game is separate and individual, but when comes to "improvements" and "enhancements", we (.com) are second rate. Small changes are ok, but we have VERY little say about anything, and for the most part if it happens on facebook, it will happen here secondly.

Anytime there are additions to the game and we ask for proof of who requested, and the rarer times we do get a reply as to who asked, we are always quoted from facebook, not .com.

It's always funny when new things appear that "many people" asked for... but we never seen anything from these "many people" anywhere... 

Could be the "many people" is not actually players.....

What the actual players we see ask for things they seldom materialize. And if/when some of it does, its so far from what we asked for, and usually come with a hefty price tag to it, make it worthless in the first place. 

As a side note I think the monetizing we got in games such as Stormfall, will eventually have to change, due to regulations. Netherlands new laws did do a good strike at loot boxes and such, and Finland is now looking into the same regulations. Some of those is looking into games where heavy spending is focused and aimed at kids/teens. And more is in the works after the 2018 annual meeting of the gambling regulation European forum (christ, what a name :p), where they made a great push towards regulate such content of games. The problem is kinda, every country have their own laws and regulations, its a bit like trinkle down, so one follow after the other. If like EU did get on the field and started to impose laws and regulations it would speed up things much faster though. Companies such as EA and Activision probably fear this way more than Plarium though. But a wind of change will sweep through the industry as whole.

If Stormfall had a subscription model I would thrown my money at them.  (as long as all the pay 2 win crap was removed).

Limad said:

BG SLAYER said:

Limad, I read that, its actually a good idea to make it more fair to leagues who want to do the flag tourney but cant, have you put that 1 in the suggestions thread by Plarium?

The phrase "Your suggestion has been forwarded to the Devs" has lost all meaning and credibility on here. 

Wonder if the devs had that august meeting yet :p

I found out from past experience with this game the only way to even have a chance to get the CM to pass on any ideas is through the suggestion threads they provide

Snowgoon said:

BG SLAYER said:

I found out from past experience with this game the only way to even have a chance to get the CM to pass on any ideas is through the suggestion threads they provide

The biggest problem with the suggestion threads is that we don't really get any chance to discuss the topic, suggest improvements, point out flaws ... or even find the bloody posts which are quickly buried under a mountain of spam

Optimization of work with suggestion is a task I'm working on at the moment :)

Changes will come soon :)