are beacons still relevant?

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IronApex Turok
27 August, 2017, 7:44 PM UTC
with all the hammers about, have beacons been reduced to just being big hamlets?  pointless for most.
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brunsonthomas
27 August, 2017, 7:57 PM UTC
I hope you are wrong because many leagues still work hard to defend Beacons. Diplomacy and strategy are required even more now that hammers can remove most Beacons and Fortresses if they tried. Some would be more expensive than others. Many of us have worked for a long time to secure and defend Beacons and get our Fortresses upgraded.
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IronApex Turok
27 August, 2017, 9:04 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


I hope you are wrong because many leagues still work hard to defend Beacons. Diplomacy and strategy are required even more now that hammers can remove most Beacons and Fortresses if they tried. Some would be more expensive than others. Many of us have worked for a long time to secure and defend Beacons and get our Fortresses upgraded.

i think that might be a losing strategy. you cant have diplo with everyone, 


look at your league  for example. 


youare allied black rose so they dont take your beacons. 

but eventtually, we will take those beacons from you for being allied with black rose. 


if you break off your ties with black rose, they will take your beacons.


so you see, it doesnt matter the hard work youve put into them, youre going to lose them and all the defense inside them.  its inevitable when stuck between two hammer leagues.  

  you guys would be wise to dump your beacons and defend your fortress. 


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Jezebel
27 August, 2017, 9:25 PM UTC

beacons have no real value in my opinion - agree they have become pvp havens for those with large enough armies


good bye Stormfall as we know it - no need for diplo - no need for strategy - just build a big enough army to hit beacons
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djmoody
27 August, 2017, 9:42 PM UTC

The short answer is that people still want the bragging rights of ranks, so they haven't become irrelevant yet.

The long answer is - pay to win only development, uber coining, uber hammers, 2-3 times more offence than defence, 700+ beacons for the limited def to cover, no real benefits from beacons (outside of DE), little activity so no leagues steal/develled beacons, risk of losing def is therefore not greater than hassle of rebuilding beacons, beacons not defended, def hidden.....

Beacon game play weird now. Arguably broken, rankings arguably broken. Game, probably broken.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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djmoody
28 August, 2017, 11:02 PM UTC


Funny to watch. 


Should accept small mercies I guess, while he is trolling Plarium he isn't slandering one of us.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. No one has a right to their opinion being respected by other if it can't be backed up with rational and logic explanation
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Andromeda
28 August, 2017, 11:17 PM UTC

Completely wrong for Server 3. My league has 6 of them. We have defended them from any and all serious attacks. Why? There are no 1 billion+ hammers on server 3. Even if there was we could kill it with the right troop shuffling. It seems most players strive for a big hammer. On server 3 (with some leagues), a big defensive wall is more important and desirable. There are also smaller leagues with one or two beacons that don't get hit. Why? The bigger players recognize the importance of diversity and balance for a healthy realm. Sure some level 5 beacons go down from time to time, but not without reason.

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IronApex Turok
29 August, 2017, 1:16 PM UTC
Andromeda said:



Completely wrong for Server 3. My league has 6 of them. We have defended them from any and all serious attacks. Why? There are no 1 billion+ hammers on server 3. Even if there was we could kill it with the right troop shuffling. It seems most players strive for a big hammer. On server 3 (with some leagues), a big defensive wall is more important and desirable. There are also smaller leagues with one or two beacons that don't get hit. Why? The bigger players recognize the importance of diversity and balance for a healthy realm. Sure some level 5 beacons go down from time to time, but not without reason.

server 3 was created here because plarium folded the kabaam server for inactivity. i saw the beacon map before it was folded.  they were almost all undefended.
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ETsphere
29 August, 2017, 3:24 PM UTC

Q- Are beacons Dead aspect of the game?  

A- YES & No


This all depends on your leagues objective and Server.  

As for Server 3 give them 6 more months to catch up to where Server 1 & 2. For now beacons are Fine.


For Server 1 and 2.  

Beacons only reason of being now - 1) Darkening troops

                                                          2) Leveling your Forts

Level 1 beacons are the new castles to attack; & only for P v P. ( Zero point in attacking a castle with level 10 walls )


With 3 servers and all the new players going to server 3 its become frustrating for people on servers 1 & 2.

I bin thinking for some time that the server needs to enter a NEW Age

and Love to see all 3 servers end up as Contents Fighting for new World or Content.


I know its a Crazy idea.

Lets think of it.  Whats left to do and Fight for on server 1 & 2. Besides being the last league playing the game?



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Snowgoon
29 August, 2017, 3:43 PM UTC

Nuff said?


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Oracle
29 August, 2017, 4:04 PM UTC

These was server 3 before the transfer these are corner beacons that I believe are now taken by KT S3



I honestly think things haven't changed much in S3. 


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brunsonthomas
29 August, 2017, 4:24 PM UTC
The new look of server 2 or at east part of it. Beacons are still important but with a Beacon Massacre coming up, who knows what it will look like this weekend.

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Snowgoon
29 August, 2017, 4:30 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


The new look of server 2 or at east part of it. Beacons are still important but with a Beacon Massacre coming up, who knows what it will look like this weekend.

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IronApex Turok
29 August, 2017, 9:31 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

The new look of server 2 or at east part of it. Beacons are still important but with a Beacon Massacre coming up, who knows what it will look like this weekend.

http://prntscr.com/gejome

those beacons in the top left corner probably wont be there anymore.  
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Andromeda
30 August, 2017, 12:07 AM UTC

Oracle said:


These was server 3 before the transfer these are corner beacons that I believe are now taken by KT S3



I honestly think things haven't changed much in S3. 


Yeah, nothing has changed since then. 




KT S3 doesn't have any beacons. KT S3 has never taken down a level 5 beacon or upgraded/held a level 5 beacon.

You really know your stuff.  

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Andromeda
30 August, 2017, 12:11 AM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

Andromeda said:



Completely wrong for Server 3. My league has 6 of them. We have defended them from any and all serious attacks. Why? There are no 1 billion+ hammers on server 3. Even if there was we could kill it with the right troop shuffling. It seems most players strive for a big hammer. On server 3 (with some leagues), a big defensive wall is more important and desirable. There are also smaller leagues with one or two beacons that don't get hit. Why? The bigger players recognize the importance of diversity and balance for a healthy realm. Sure some level 5 beacons go down from time to time, but not without reason.

server 3 was created here because plarium folded the kabaam server for inactivity. i saw the beacon map before it was folded.  they were almost all undefended.
Yes, some beacons belong to Balur. The level 5 league beacons are defended. Leagues don't spread defense thin is all. Smart play. Server three seems to be growing fast now.
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IronApex Turok
30 August, 2017, 6:36 AM UTC

Andromeda said:


Yes, some beacons belong to Balur. The level 5 league beacons are defended. Leagues don't spread defense thin is all. Smart play. Server three seems to be growing fast now.

thats kinda my point.... almost any beacon can be taken at will. 


most of the beacons on server 2 can be knocked over with a sneeze. 


today i notice several more undefended beacons held by balur. 
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Andromeda
30 August, 2017, 9:08 AM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

Andromeda said:


Yes, some beacons belong to Balur. The level 5 league beacons are defended. Leagues don't spread defense thin is all. Smart play. Server three seems to be growing fast now.

thats kinda my point.... almost any beacon can be taken at will. 


most of the beacons on server 2 can be knocked over with a sneeze. 


today i notice several more undefended beacons held by balur. 
On S3 it takes a lot more than just a "sneeze" to knock the majority of them down.
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Oracle
30 August, 2017, 3:49 PM UTC
Andromeda said:

Yeah, nothing has changed since then. 




KT S3 doesn't have any beacons. KT S3 has never taken down a level 5 beacon or upgraded/held a level 5 beacon.

You really know your stuff.  

I was only in S3 for a short time only. I was send there to study the feasibility of moving a league there, and finding powerful players to join in server 1. That was  in 2016 May, the screenshot is from june 2016. 
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. . . . . . Gedleyihlekisa: Oracle the postremogeniture
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Razzer
30 August, 2017, 4:17 PM UTC

ETsphere said:


Q- Are beacons Dead aspect of the game?  

A- YES & No


This all depends on your leagues objective and Server.  

As for Server 3 give them 6 more months to catch up to where Server 1 & 2. For now beacons are Fine.


For Server 1 and 2.  

Beacons only reason of being now - 1) Darkening troops

                                                          2) Leveling your Forts

Level 1 beacons are the new castles to attack; & only for P v P. ( Zero point in attacking a castle with level 10 walls )


With 3 servers and all the new players going to server 3 its become frustrating for people on servers 1 & 2.

I bin thinking for some time that the server needs to enter a NEW Age

and Love to see all 3 servers end up as Contents Fighting for new World or Content.


I know its a Crazy idea.

Lets think of it.  Whats left to do and Fight for on server 1 & 2. Besides being the last league playing the game?



I do like the idea of an eventual merger of the servers where the new map starts off with each server as it's own continent.


Beacons are still very relevant; how leagues use/ interact with beacons have changed.


What is no longer relevant (at least for server 1) is for a league to try to create an impenetrable bastion of defense on a beacon, that's now the role of the league fortress.
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