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Sep 11, 2017, 12:2209/11/17
04/10/15
1437

djmoody said:


OK - I suspect as much.

Next time you do a run of BG's don't turn any boosts on.

Since the yellow bar update there has been a mechanic whereby if you are close to the appropriate loading but not quite there then you get a half payout. Since you are on a high level that range is actually pretty large in terms of resources. If you kill with boosts then you are never loading enough to go from below min level to drive half payout to over the avg banking value to drive a full payout. You are always getting suck in the "not quite" loaded zone and getting half payouts.

If you put no boosts on, you'll be loading more each BG with more chance of loading over the avg banking value for a full payout.

Assuming this helps you get a full payout I would stop BG's right now. They are loss making. Right now for reasons I won't go into atm you are in the best position to clear the maximum bank you can. This window will quickly disappear for you if you keep churning through BG's.

Dear lords

yesterday i was yellowing bgs, and couldn be able to get the payout when expected as the moment my bank said it had to come. maybe cause it was sunday, maybe cause the ramdom component were higher yesterday or maybe Lord Biohazard is right and not all resources go to bank if not finished. well i finished all yellowed except one cause a lot still remains and no big payout.

ok today i take a look to my bank and says i have bank for a 68-69 and try a 66

then this happens, what lord djmoody says, i got a 44% half payout



then, i remember, as i said in a post before. this takes out a big amount from my bank, but it is not a big payout, check my bank and says i have for a 60, dont have a 60 and as i am not sure cause the resources i have trapped in a yellowed, i decided step down 2 levels and check a 58 with a pike.

i see the results, send cavaltry and got this



so, my conclusions is...the half payouts are not so new and the old system when you had a split payout still works, when u receive a 40-60 half payout in one bg you can check ur bank step down some levels and be able to get the complete payout. i have won arround 40M in resources and only have to return 16M for the next big payout.

i wrote this for you to think about ur conclusions. 

mine now are almost 100% finished.

Regards

Sep 17, 2017, 22:5309/17/17
03/20/14
493

no, but with the multiple pay screens you should be able to check what each has payed and work out a average you can compare with other players and make a "hopefully" accurate bank payout chart.


RL is busy at the moment and i have little time to record each payout from there and i want to know the bank amounts as well, so i posted it here hoping someone would do the work of them and i could then steal the payout amounts.
Sep 19, 2017, 11:4009/19/17
Sep 19, 2017, 11:40(edited)
10/31/14
1897

Lords

These thread already contain those numbers. DJ even verified for 175. 

The data for 101-180  is flouting in FB.  

For 180 these picture contain a max and minimum


Sep 21, 2017, 22:0009/21/17
11/27/14
499
WorldWar3 said:


That's my payout at 175


I have got this type of payout around 3 times now, but everytime its dragons at lvl 175

Can u tell me how much is your bank ?
Sep 30, 2017, 15:2409/30/17
Sep 30, 2017, 15:26(edited)
03/21/15
5

https://prnt.sc/grl13g


this is the third time i have gotten a split on warlocks/demons at level 180 


going for a pure offense payout what needs to be done?

Sep 30, 2017, 17:0709/30/17
12/12/14
30

I am not an expert on tracking bg banks  but have plenty of experience.  My intuition says in order to get a pure offensive payout you might need to deplete some gold from your bank by getting some defensive bg payouts then reloading heavy on iron bearing troops for the next big payout.

I often use the resource payouts as a gauge to determine the gold/iron ratio in my bank.  When I get an iron payout I was heavy on banked iron (and depending on the bg lvl and payout maybe still are).
Sep 30, 2017, 17:1009/30/17
03/21/15
5

Crow said:


I am not an expert on tracking bg banks  but have plenty of experience.  My intuition says in order to get a pure offensive payout you might need to deplete some gold from your bank by getting some defensive bg payouts then reloading heavy on iron bearing troops for the next big payout.

I often use the resource payouts as a gauge to determine the gold/iron ratio in my bank.  When I get an iron payout I was heavy on banked iron (and depending on the bg lvl and payout maybe still are).

thanks for the input, i keep my barns and warehouses full when I bg in order to avoid resource payouts


i decided to clear all yellows and be happy with the warlocks for now I will build for a while and decide what to do later
Sep 30, 2017, 17:1309/30/17
Sep 30, 2017, 17:14(edited)
11/27/14
499

SirWhatsHisNuts said:


Crow said:


I am not an expert on tracking bg banks  but have plenty of experience.  My intuition says in order to get a pure offensive payout you might need to deplete some gold from your bank by getting some defensive bg payouts then reloading heavy on iron bearing troops for the next big payout.

I often use the resource payouts as a gauge to determine the gold/iron ratio in my bank.  When I get an iron payout I was heavy on banked iron (and depending on the bg lvl and payout maybe still are).

thanks for the input, i keep my barns and warehouses full when I bg in order to avoid resource payouts


i decided to clear all yellows and be happy with the warlocks for now I will build for a while and decide what to do later

Can u tell me how much is your BANK ?

Did u use the yellow metode ?
Sep 30, 2017, 17:1609/30/17
Sep 30, 2017, 17:21(edited)
03/21/15
5

Lord Mark said:


SirWhatsHisNuts said:


Crow said:


I am not an expert on tracking bg banks  but have plenty of experience.  My intuition says in order to get a pure offensive payout you might need to deplete some gold from your bank by getting some defensive bg payouts then reloading heavy on iron bearing troops for the next big payout.

I often use the resource payouts as a gauge to determine the gold/iron ratio in my bank.  When I get an iron payout I was heavy on banked iron (and depending on the bg lvl and payout maybe still are).

thanks for the input, i keep my barns and warehouses full when I bg in order to avoid resource payouts


i decided to clear all yellows and be happy with the warlocks for now I will build for a while and decide what to do later

Can u tell me how much is your BANK ?

Did u use the yellow metode ?

my bank was at 420 million when i got that payout - if I had wanted to increase my bank further it would have meant loading more defense which I wasn't inclined to do after the payout my bank was still positive - after clearing my yellows my bank is now -155 million


and yes i yellowed bg to load the bank
Oct 1, 2017, 06:0010/01/17
12/18/14
1835

just for information

http://prntscr.com/grtbeg

my bank was over 600 million with the majority being offense troops loaded into them - I still had a bank of over 200 million so i cleared the next highest offense bg and got a small warlock/demon payout - so it seems even when you have more iron resources loaded the "algorithm" will pay you whatever the heck it wants to pay you!! lol

ah well try again tomorrow





Oct 1, 2017, 23:5810/01/17
12/18/14
1835
djmoody said:

Jezebel said:

the heck it wants to pay you!! lol

As far as I have seen, it's random.
yup I agree - would be nice to get some necs or dragons though after all that work - 3 members moved to level 180 this week and got warlock/demon rewards similar to mine
Oct 2, 2017, 08:5710/02/17
Oct 2, 2017, 11:45(edited)
10/31/14
1897

BG have a random factor. 

The method of banking
The percentage of the amount of your bank relative to tax
The number of BG you engage

The strength of BG you engage relative to your banking units. ect

Yellow barring is a bad idea, but its useful in turning high resource value units into low value resource units. Which in turn increase your overall unit strengh, givign you more power. 

And example

http://prntscr.com/grjnrz     http://prntscr.com/grjo09 http://prntscr.com/grjo4n https://prnt.sc/grjoas https://prnt.sc/grjohk http://prntscr.com/grjol3 http://prntscr.com/grjopc https://prnt.sc/grjoth https://prnt.sc/grjozk https://prnt.sc/grjp5v https://prnt.sc/grjpd8 https://prnt.sc/grjppl 

  
Oct 2, 2017, 10:3010/02/17
01/31/16
29

nice one but you should have hit a higher level about 85-95 to get a really big one

when the lower ones starts to pay you know that your bank is ok and you should go to higher ones

Oct 2, 2017, 11:3910/02/17
04/10/15
1437

Keraunos said:


nice one but you should have hit a higher level about 85-95 to get a really big one

when the lower ones starts to pay you know that your bank is ok and you should go to higher ones

Lord Keraunos

if lower bgs begin to pay the only meaning it has its that u have returned the previous big payout. then now you have to take a look what its ur bank cause maybe you have bank to get a payout on lower but u dont have bank to get a payout on higher ones.

Regards
Oct 2, 2017, 13:3210/02/17
12/18/14
1835
Oracle said:

BG have a random factor. 

The method of banking
The percentage of the amount of your bank relative to tax
The number of BG you engage

The strength of BG you engage relative to your banking units. ect

Yellow barring is a bad idea, but its useful in turning high resource value units into low value resource units. Which in turn increase your overall unit strengh, givign you more power. 

And example

http://prntscr.com/grjnrz     http://prntscr.com/grjo09 http://prntscr.com/grjo4n https://prnt.sc/grjoas https://prnt.sc/grjohk http://prntscr.com/grjol3 http://prntscr.com/grjopc https://prnt.sc/grjoth https://prnt.sc/grjozk https://prnt.sc/grjp5v https://prnt.sc/grjpd8 https://prnt.sc/grjppl 

  
I increased my "power" by 50 million the last tourney using the yellow bar method so please do not tell me it doesn't work
Oct 2, 2017, 13:4410/02/17
10/31/14
1897

Jezebel said:

Yellow barring is a bad idea, but its useful in turning high resource value units into low value resource units. Which in turn increase your overall unit strengh, givign you more power. 

I increased my "power" by 50 million the last tourney using the yellow bar method so please do not tell me it doesn't work

Did you read my yellowed word. Did you understand what I was trying to prove with my screenshots. 

If you would have read my post, opened those screenshot, you would have seen that in that screenshots I have increased a 2 million power units into 6 million. 

READ


Oct 2, 2017, 13:4510/02/17
10/31/14
1897

Keraunos said:


nice one but you should have hit a higher level about 85-95 to get a really big one

when the lower ones starts to pay you know that your bank is ok and you should go to higher ones

You're right my bank at the time was equivalent to BG between that range. But if I have hit those BG the system would have forced ''all out'' payout which would have been split beast. 

Oct 2, 2017, 13:5310/02/17
12/18/14
1835
Oracle said:

Jezebel said:

Yellow barring is a bad idea, but its useful in turning high resource value units into low value resource units. Which in turn increase your overall unit strengh, givign you more power. 

I increased my "power" by 50 million the last tourney using the yellow bar method so please do not tell me it doesn't work

Did you read my yellowed word. Did you understand what I was trying to prove with my screenshots. 

If you would have read my post, opened those screenshot, you would have seen that in that screenshots I have increased a 2 million power units into 6 million. 

READ


I read it - you read - I have always used the yellow bar method and always gained using this method - so don't say yellow barring is a bad idea - it works and has always worked if you know how to track your bank
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