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Jul 9, 2017, 17:4607/09/17
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War requests

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

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Jul 9, 2017, 17:5907/09/17
03/22/16
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Marcel Stokvis said:

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Why should a league agree to a state of War and give the opposition tournament points and league accomplishments. I will not agree to a War unless there is a good chance of winning. Why agree to a losing War? So many War challenges are traps.
Jul 9, 2017, 18:1307/09/17
12/18/14
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but DV I don't wanna go to war with you :(


also beacon holding leagues are usually afraid to go to war because they don't want their beacons to get hit and everyone to know how weak they really are :)
Jul 9, 2017, 18:1907/09/17
223

brunsonthomas said:


Marcel Stokvis said:


Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Why should a league agree to a state of War and give the opposition tournament points and league accomplishments. I will not agree to a War unless there is a good chance of winning. Why agree to a losing War? So many War challenges are traps.

You might want to reread my post, not what I said not what I asked not even close.


Imo there shouldnt be a need for the other party to accept or decline, a war is a war and should be called by one party
What you get now are some scared little girls like ohh say "resevoir dogs" that just ignore the warrequest but still get beaten down ... by lol 1 plyer :P

BiohazarDModerator
Jul 9, 2017, 18:2707/09/17
10/04/13
3773
brunsonthomas said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Why should a league agree to a state of War and give the opposition tournament points and league accomplishments. I will not agree to a War unless there is a good chance of winning. Why agree to a losing War? So many War challenges are traps.
Of course, so no one ever agrees to wars.  And therefore it's nearly impossible to get the achievements unless you do it with your own alt leagues.  That's why there shouldn't be the option of not agreeing, when one league declares war on another the war should just automatically start.  Then they should both have to agree to end the war.  
BiohazarDModerator
Jul 9, 2017, 18:2807/09/17
10/04/13
3773
Marcel Stokvis said:

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Yes, WW2 would have gone very differently if poland had just said "no thanks" and germany had gone home :P
Jul 9, 2017, 18:3807/09/17
223

BiohazarD said:


Marcel Stokvis said:


https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc


http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y



What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war


Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them

Jul 9, 2017, 18:3907/09/17
223
BiohazarD said:

brunsonthomas said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

Its silly that the other league has to click accept ...
I dont recall germany waiting for permission before starting WW2.


This whole system where the other league has to accept if one wants to go to war "officially" only creates a hiding place.
This should be fixed imo

Why should a league agree to a state of War and give the opposition tournament points and league accomplishments. I will not agree to a War unless there is a good chance of winning. Why agree to a losing War? So many War challenges are traps.
Of course, so no one ever agrees to wars.  And therefore it's nearly impossible to get the achievements unless you do it with your own alt leagues.  That's why there shouldn't be the option of not agreeing, when one league declares war on another the war should just automatically start.  Then they should both have to agree to end the war.  
was fixing the links in my osts lol only just seen this but its 100% what I meant in my first post
BiohazarDModerator
Jul 9, 2017, 18:4107/09/17
10/04/13
3773
Marcel Stokvis said:

BiohazarD said:


Marcel Stokvis said:


https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc


http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y



What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war


Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them

Ah ok, makes sense :)
Jul 9, 2017, 18:4307/09/17
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BiohazarD said:

Marcel Stokvis said:

BiohazarD said:


Marcel Stokvis said:


https://youtu.be/im2SoltmZEc


http://prntscr.com/ftkai0
http://prntscr.com/ftkapv
http://prntscr.com/ftkaz8
http://prntscr.com/ftkb4y



What does any of that have to do with this topic?

Easy, I shouldnt have to wait for an ok before being able to declare war to in this case resevoir dogs.
War should be declared by 1 party, not ok'd by the second.

Screens are to show that them not accepting the war request doesnt make a difference in us being at war


Like I said in my 1st post ... germany didnt wait for an ok by poland before invading them

Ah ok, makes sense :)
The song should be abeacon of hope for RD ... who knows I might run out of ports in the next month or so
Jul 9, 2017, 19:1707/09/17
Jul 9, 2017, 19:18(edited)
608

nice song jez ,i let it continiou play and i heared more song of them ,i did nt know them they rock ! :)



am i out of the topic?  ow sorry guys just now i noticed it ;-)



Jul 10, 2017, 02:2707/10/17
12/18/14
1835
sison said:

nice song jez ,i let it continiou play and i heared more song of them ,i did nt know them they rock ! :)



am i out of the topic?  ow sorry guys just now i noticed it ;-)




Jul 11, 2017, 07:5207/11/17
02/29/16
5605

Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

Jul 11, 2017, 17:1707/11/17
223

Alina Phenix said:


Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

This game isnt called farmville but Stormfall : Age of war

BiohazarDModerator
Jul 11, 2017, 17:3707/11/17
10/04/13
3773

Alina Phenix said:


Hello :)

We think that setting the State of War automatically is not a good idea. 

This could be against some Leagues’ policies. Besides, there could be some League members whose actions do not align with their League's intentions not to attack certain Leagues. 

We believe that such cases should be solved through negotiations, and if two Leagues agree that it is time for War, they they can start it.

That's the problem though, your enemies aren't going to agree to the war request you sent because they know you want them to accept it.  And not doing what you want is what makes them enemies in the first place.  And when we're trying to destroy a league I'd imagine getting destroyed is usually against that leagues policies. 

Jul 11, 2017, 20:4307/11/17
Jul 11, 2017, 20:48(edited)
07/04/15
20

going to war or war challenge ..?

War challenges are to most league,s pointless and can be ongoing for months to what benefit .?league achievement .= very little

spam attacks and pm,s ? total waste of time and effort .

Declare war on another player or league can be done at anytime by anyone .? Hence  pvp tournament  u are more likely to get players defending and retaliating whilst there are rewards ,to assist some of the losses gained .

are the small achievements gained from challenges worth the effort .?..compared to a pvp war with some recovery via rewards .?

but thats only my opinion .

maybe palarium can come up with a weekend pvp war challenge system ...league rewards for def / off numbers, league achievement rewards all members?.

3 days of anarchy ..lol


Jul 14, 2017, 13:0007/14/17
223

djmoody said:


Is there any point in having this discussion when the points mechanisms for wars and challenges are so broken.

If that was fixed then more people might want to take part in something challenging, enjoyable and with a result driven by skill, knowledge and experience.

Until then any other discussion around the mechanics it a bit of a waste of time.


Dont agree there, this isnt the same as BG's being broken or game been uneven or flawed, ie code that needs to be rewritten or checked
This is simply a matter or changing a setting ..

2 very different things

Jul 15, 2017, 05:5407/15/17
10/31/14
1897

The feature was implemented   for many reasons. Yes I understand that real life   works different compared to what we have in the game. Apart from the reason given by the CM, other reasons​ for this feature are:


To​ safeguard decision making to players that a league Marshall have appointed. Imagine if everyone in your league had an ability to start war with any league.


For league security reasons 


To enhance league play styles. Remember not all league want to war, some are grind and social orientated. 


To safeguard against bullies which will abuse the feature to pummel small leagues. 


The major reason is giving players the ability to say no. So if wars are not league goals they can ignore requests.