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Plarium games are stupid

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preacher.rn
30 June, 2017, 11:58 PM UTC

Really?

This game is ********, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.
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Gadheras
1 July, 2017, 1:33 AM UTC

preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is *******, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

Did you attend Trump academy by chance? :p

Anyways, this is how these kind of games plays out, they are heavy monotized, the f2p model is more about free to try, not much enjoying to play as you obviously found out. Its all about make money.

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brunsonthomas
Moderator
1 July, 2017, 4:47 PM UTC
Gadheras said:

preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is *******, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

Did you attend Trump academy by chance? :p

Anyways, this is how these kind of games plays out, they are heavy monotized, the f2p model is more about free to try, not much enjoying to play as you obviously found out. Its all about make money.

There is something you have sorely missed in the game. The best part of the game is the interaction with other players. Friend and enemy alike can have interesting interactions. If you are the member of a good league they can give you many good suggestions on better ways to play and not lose you troops. The social interaction is often the best part of the game. If you read the Tutorials Forum there are some good pointers to play a better game.
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Gadheras
1 July, 2017, 6:42 PM UTC

brunsonthomas said:


Gadheras said:


preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is *******, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

Did you attend Trump academy by chance? :p

Anyways, this is how these kind of games plays out, they are heavy monotized, the f2p model is more about free to try, not much enjoying to play as you obviously found out. Its all about make money.

There is something you have sorely missed in the game. The best part of the game is the interaction with other players. Friend and enemy alike can have interesting interactions. If you are the member of a good league they can give you many good suggestions on better ways to play and not lose you troops. The social interaction is often the best part of the game. If you read the Tutorials Forum there are some good pointers to play a better game.

The INTERATION you get with other players in this game, weigh heavy on what league you end up in, (if any) and what other means of communications they use. Such as voice with teamspeak, ventrille, whatever. The "entry experience" of a new player in this game is frankly horrible. You can't denie that fact, because if it had been so good more would stayed for longer than they do. But player retention is horrible. I got several houndred people on my friend list and probably 80% doesnt even play anylonger. 


But end of the day, unless someone start feed you funds to play this game with, no matter level of advice and suggestion you get from veteran players. No matter how good. They wont stand up to the pay2win preasure and the big coiners.  Especially when there is no limit on how much someone can spend. You could nuke someone totaly, and with the swipe of his CC he can bounce back. But hey, ballance is important right?


Being a mod probably not all that fun at times, but at least you get paid in sapphires right? So you have spending money ingame, many doesn't, so its easy to say someone can get better at the game listen to advice when they already handicapped compared to yourself.  This is not a stab at you as moderator but reality of things. 


Also, more typical theme park mmo types of games is much better for social interaction, that what Plarium games ever will be because of the faster pace of things. When I get some free time to sit down and play games, I want to do that, PLAY THE GAME. I dont want to login and sit watch things snail around and watch the gras grow. Stormfall is typical log in a couple times a day, queue up some stuff and off again. 


There is a saying, you can put lipstick on a pig, it still a pig.. Sugar coating things change nothing. Plarium games is what they are, nothing more , nothing less. 
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BiohazarD
Moderator
2 July, 2017, 7:29 AM UTC
preacher.rn said:

Really?

This game is ********, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.
Maybe you shouldn't send your entire offense at targets half a day away then ;)
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DrFondles
Moderator
2 July, 2017, 7:35 AM UTC

Sending troops on battles far away is rough sometimes. But remember there are many different ways to upgrade troop movement speeds. But also this is a war game... For pikeman to walk 120miles, and it only take 20 hrs or something (Random Amount of time, just throwing out a point) that isn't much. If I was a lord back in the medieval days, and it only took my army hours to get somewhere. I'd be happy... But also I'd be scared of what could arrive at my gates. If peoples armies could always arrive fast, it would be hard to protect yourself from such bloodshed.

Josh/Synergy S3
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IronApex Turok
2 July, 2017, 8:06 AM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

 The best part of the game is the interaction with other players. Friend and enemy alike can have interesting interactions. If you are the member of a good league they can give you many good suggestions on better ways to play and not lose you troops. The social interaction is often the best part of the game. If you read the Tutorials Forum there are some good pointers to play a better game.
if thats the case... why even have game content, why not just have a forum.  If the social interaction is the highlight of your game, you are failing as a game developer. 
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nobody
3 July, 2017, 7:09 AM UTC

IronApex Turok said:


brunsonthomas said:


 The best part of the game is the interaction with other players. Friend and enemy alike can have interesting interactions. If you are the member of a good league they can give you many good suggestions on better ways to play and not lose you troops. The social interaction is often the best part of the game. If you read the Tutorials Forum there are some good pointers to play a better game.

if thats the case... why even have game content, why not just have a forum.  If the social interaction is the highlight of your game, you are failing as a game developer. 

i agree with turok, i have heard this argument and similar arguments about it is the relationships.  here is the deal;  there are thousands and thousands of games online.  there are relationships on every single one of them.
you can find you tube videos and wikipedia pages full of information into multiple thousands of pages explaining game content.  type in x item, and poof item page pops up, with stats, uses, strategic expertise, how the item can be obtained, price if it can be sold or if it is soulbound.  people love you tubing themselves playing game content.
if you search stormfall,  you get bg calculator,  that's it.
social interaction, a "good" viewpoint and trying to lessen the sting of inevitable loss.  these are the arguments i hear in defense of plariums lack of content.  {the reasons why someone should play this game}.
i say a game should be played based on its content.  have relationships if you want, but you don't have to.
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nobody
3 July, 2017, 7:31 AM UTC

preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is ********, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

you are at that 5 to 6 months stage where you realize how futile the game is.  however sending raids is under your control.  if you can only be on for 30 minutes to an hour a day,  it makes raiding tough you will have to stay close to your castle and use time boosts on the way back in order to put your offense away.

if you are able to log in 3 or 4 times a day then you have to find castles that are half way {time wise} til you get back on. such as send raids at 5 hrs and then log back in when you wake up or when you get back from work.  this is alot of focus to do a simple task, but players do it.

the style of game/business model takes your time or money or both.  if you are realizing the futility of the game content, it will never get better, just quit, for the health of your own life.

the game speed does not need sped up, there needs to be close pve, resource gathering content for all players, preferably instanced to that player. that way players who can only spend half an hr to an hr, can gather what they need.

if you are retaliating against players who are using speed ups, then don't, it isn't worth your real life.

preacher hunh?  you did get yourself into hell.  you can get yourself out.

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BiohazarD
Moderator
3 July, 2017, 8:01 AM UTC

nobody said:


preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is ********, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

you are at that 5 to 6 months stage where you realize how futile the game is.  however sending raids is under your control.  if you can only be on for 30 minutes to an hour a day,  it makes raiding tough you will have to stay close to your castle and use time boosts on the way back in order to put your offense away.

if you are able to log in 3 or 4 times a day then you have to find castles that are half way {time wise} til you get back on. such as send raids at 5 hrs and then log back in when you wake up or when you get back from work.  this is alot of focus to do a simple task, but players do it.

the style of game/business model takes your time or money or both.  if you are realizing the futility of the game content, it will never get better, just quit, for the health of your own life.

the game speed does not need sped up, there needs to be close pve, resource gathering content for all players, preferably instanced to that player. that way players who can only spend half an hr to an hr, can gather what they need.

if you are retaliating against players who are using speed ups, then don't, it isn't worth your real life.

preacher hunh?  you did get yourself into hell.  you can get yourself out.

There is close pve.  You can hit bgs any time, and they're only a 1 minute travel time away. 

As for some kind of pve sectors we could raid for resources, that could be interesting.  Although the bot castles are basically that, since they never fight back as far as I've seen. 
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nobody
4 July, 2017, 5:34 AM UTC

BiohazarD said:


nobody said:


preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is ********, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

you are at that 5 to 6 months stage where you realize how futile the game is.  however sending raids is under your control.  if you can only be on for 30 minutes to an hour a day,  it makes raiding tough you will have to stay close to your castle and use time boosts on the way back in order to put your offense away.

if you are able to log in 3 or 4 times a day then you have to find castles that are half way {time wise} til you get back on. such as send raids at 5 hrs and then log back in when you wake up or when you get back from work.  this is alot of focus to do a simple task, but players do it.

the style of game/business model takes your time or money or both.  if you are realizing the futility of the game content, it will never get better, just quit, for the health of your own life.

the game speed does not need sped up, there needs to be close pve, resource gathering content for all players, preferably instanced to that player. that way players who can only spend half an hr to an hr, can gather what they need.

if you are retaliating against players who are using speed ups, then don't, it isn't worth your real life.

preacher hunh?  you did get yourself into hell.  you can get yourself out.

There is close pve.  You can hit bgs any time, and they're only a 1 minute travel time away. 

As for some kind of pve sectors we could raid for resources, that could be interesting.  Although the bot castles are basically that, since they never fight back as far as I've seen. 

i don't consider bgs as pve, i see it as a resource sink.  pretty handy that a resource sink for the normal masses are 65 plus chances at 1 minute each.  plus if you have the troops you can send 10 or 15 at a time.

bot castles are not plarium content, they are pseudo illegal.

my suggestion is for the complete package: {close}, {resource field},{instanced to the player}.  the fields wouldn't need to be close if troops were teleported to the entrance and then short distances from the entrance.

the op is sending long raids for some reason.  i just tried to give perspectives on raiding time/management.  what would work better for players with little spare time.

there are those who are happy with game content and there are those who are unhappy.  i just think it's time to stop trying to convince those who are unhappy, that they should be.

nothing personal, not arguing with you, just debating my viewpoint.
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BiohazarD
Moderator
5 July, 2017, 5:53 PM UTC

nobody said:


BiohazarD said:


nobody said:


preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is ********, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

you are at that 5 to 6 months stage where you realize how futile the game is.  however sending raids is under your control.  if you can only be on for 30 minutes to an hour a day,  it makes raiding tough you will have to stay close to your castle and use time boosts on the way back in order to put your offense away.

if you are able to log in 3 or 4 times a day then you have to find castles that are half way {time wise} til you get back on. such as send raids at 5 hrs and then log back in when you wake up or when you get back from work.  this is alot of focus to do a simple task, but players do it.

the style of game/business model takes your time or money or both.  if you are realizing the futility of the game content, it will never get better, just quit, for the health of your own life.

the game speed does not need sped up, there needs to be close pve, resource gathering content for all players, preferably instanced to that player. that way players who can only spend half an hr to an hr, can gather what they need.

if you are retaliating against players who are using speed ups, then don't, it isn't worth your real life.

preacher hunh?  you did get yourself into hell.  you can get yourself out.

There is close pve.  You can hit bgs any time, and they're only a 1 minute travel time away. 

As for some kind of pve sectors we could raid for resources, that could be interesting.  Although the bot castles are basically that, since they never fight back as far as I've seen. 

i don't consider bgs as pve, i see it as a resource sink.  pretty handy that a resource sink for the normal masses are 65 plus chances at 1 minute each.  plus if you have the troops you can send 10 or 15 at a time.

bot castles are not plarium content, they are pseudo illegal.

my suggestion is for the complete package: {close}, {resource field},{instanced to the player}.  the fields wouldn't need to be close if troops were teleported to the entrance and then short distances from the entrance.

the op is sending long raids for some reason.  i just tried to give perspectives on raiding time/management.  what would work better for players with little spare time.

there are those who are happy with game content and there are those who are unhappy.  i just think it's time to stop trying to convince those who are unhappy, that they should be.

nothing personal, not arguing with you, just debating my viewpoint.

True, bgs are definitely a resource sink.  But they are sort of pve, so I had to mention it.  

I wouldn't mind if there was some sort of pve where you could gain troops (although it would obviously have to be limited somehow).  
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Gadheras
6 July, 2017, 7:53 AM UTC
BiohazarD said:

nobody said:


BiohazarD said:


nobody said:


preacher.rn said:


Really?

This game is ********, actually all your Plarium game are way too damn slow whe it comes to troop movements. The only reason for this is so you get players t spend money on purchasing packs for just about everything lacking in a fun game, it's not fun, it's boring and time consuming, compare to console and computer games? what the hell did I get into here, and playing the 3 realms, wasting my hard earn money on this sin. Why don't you at Plarium enhance the game speed somewhat so people can actually have fun.

I'm sick and tired of having to wait half a day for troops to get back to castle only to go off to bed and wake up the next day or come back home from work and see my entire Offence killed by raiding clan. enough already with this stupid raping players for money.

In most areas of game play some things are really dumb, to say the least, in early stages of development and later at certain levels, it become really super stupid.

you are at that 5 to 6 months stage where you realize how futile the game is.  however sending raids is under your control.  if you can only be on for 30 minutes to an hour a day,  it makes raiding tough you will have to stay close to your castle and use time boosts on the way back in order to put your offense away.

if you are able to log in 3 or 4 times a day then you have to find castles that are half way {time wise} til you get back on. such as send raids at 5 hrs and then log back in when you wake up or when you get back from work.  this is alot of focus to do a simple task, but players do it.

the style of game/business model takes your time or money or both.  if you are realizing the futility of the game content, it will never get better, just quit, for the health of your own life.

the game speed does not need sped up, there needs to be close pve, resource gathering content for all players, preferably instanced to that player. that way players who can only spend half an hr to an hr, can gather what they need.

if you are retaliating against players who are using speed ups, then don't, it isn't worth your real life.

preacher hunh?  you did get yourself into hell.  you can get yourself out.

There is close pve.  You can hit bgs any time, and they're only a 1 minute travel time away. 

As for some kind of pve sectors we could raid for resources, that could be interesting.  Although the bot castles are basically that, since they never fight back as far as I've seen. 

i don't consider bgs as pve, i see it as a resource sink.  pretty handy that a resource sink for the normal masses are 65 plus chances at 1 minute each.  plus if you have the troops you can send 10 or 15 at a time.

bot castles are not plarium content, they are pseudo illegal.

my suggestion is for the complete package: {close}, {resource field},{instanced to the player}.  the fields wouldn't need to be close if troops were teleported to the entrance and then short distances from the entrance.

the op is sending long raids for some reason.  i just tried to give perspectives on raiding time/management.  what would work better for players with little spare time.

there are those who are happy with game content and there are those who are unhappy.  i just think it's time to stop trying to convince those who are unhappy, that they should be.

nothing personal, not arguing with you, just debating my viewpoint.

True, bgs are definitely a resource sink.  But they are sort of pve, so I had to mention it.  

I wouldn't mind if there was some sort of pve where you could gain troops (although it would obviously have to be limited somehow).  
most online games got the concept of. Either you pay to save time, or you grind and spend time. In Plarium games you have little return on the whole grind and spend time aspect. The incentive to spend time playing get less and less over time. The crux is, the paying players need the small time coiners and f2p players, because it add content and life to the sandbox. Plariums idea of a sandbox is to fill it with kitty litter :(
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