How are Moderators chosen?

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Oracle
9 May, 2017, 11:27 AM UTC

The 1.2 was for swearing, 

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Reason for edit( rule), onother reason for edit

Who edited it

So 

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1.2( first reason for edit), calling a member ''a****face''

second edit, screenshot edited, Removed in game location( another reason for edit)

Those are not meant for you but for the forum admins and other mods

Biohazard has killed the forum.
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IronApex Turok
10 May, 2017, 7:13 PM UTC

this thread was reopened. 


the discussion may continue, but leave out the language and the name calling. 
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Skycooldude
10 May, 2017, 7:45 PM UTC
Oracle said:

The 1.2 was for swearing, 

Edit

Reason for edit( rule), onother reason for edit

Who edited it

So 

Edit

1.2( first reason for edit), calling a member ''a****face''

second edit, screenshot edited, Removed in game location( another reason for edit)

Those are not meant for you but for the forum admins and other mods

So if I am reading the second edit.. you can't put ss's in here with ingame locations?
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brunsonthomas
10 May, 2017, 8:27 PM UTC
Skycooldude said:

Oracle said:

The 1.2 was for swearing, 

Edit

Reason for edit( rule), onother reason for edit

Who edited it

So 

Edit

1.2( first reason for edit), calling a member ''a****face''

second edit, screenshot edited, Removed in game location( another reason for edit)

Those are not meant for you but for the forum admins and other mods

So if I am reading the second edit.. you can't put ss's in here with ingame locations?
Correct. You should obliterate or otherwise eliminate locations from any screenshot.
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IronApex Turok
10 May, 2017, 9:58 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

Skycooldude said:

Oracle said:

The 1.2 was for swearing, 

Edit

Reason for edit( rule), onother reason for edit

Who edited it

So 

Edit

1.2( first reason for edit), calling a member ''a****face''

second edit, screenshot edited, Removed in game location( another reason for edit)

Those are not meant for you but for the forum admins and other mods

So if I am reading the second edit.. you can't put ss's in here with ingame locations?
Correct. You should obliterate or otherwise eliminate locations from any screenshot.
what rule number is that?
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brunsonthomas
10 May, 2017, 10:18 PM UTC
IronApex Turok said:

brunsonthomas said:

Skycooldude said:

Oracle said:

The 1.2 was for swearing, 

Edit

Reason for edit( rule), onother reason for edit

Who edited it

So 

Edit

1.2( first reason for edit), calling a member ''a****face''

second edit, screenshot edited, Removed in game location( another reason for edit)

Those are not meant for you but for the forum admins and other mods

So if I am reading the second edit.. you can't put ss's in here with ingame locations?
Correct. You should obliterate or otherwise eliminate locations from any screenshot.
what rule number is that?
That is the expectation of privacy and not revealing any personal information on the Forums without express consent.
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IronApex Turok
10 May, 2017, 10:30 PM UTC
my coords arent personal information. that are posted under my name everywhere in the game. 
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IronApex Turok
10 May, 2017, 10:33 PM UTC
brunsonthomas said:

IronApex Turok said:

brunsonthomas said:

Skycooldude said:

Oracle said:

The 1.2 was for swearing, 

Edit

Reason for edit( rule), onother reason for edit

Who edited it

So 

Edit

1.2( first reason for edit), calling a member ''a****face''

second edit, screenshot edited, Removed in game location( another reason for edit)

Those are not meant for you but for the forum admins and other mods

So if I am reading the second edit.. you can't put ss's in here with ingame locations?
Correct. You should obliterate or otherwise eliminate locations from any screenshot.
what rule number is that?
That is the expectation of privacy and not revealing any personal information on the Forums without express consent.
and what rule number is that?
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Skycooldude
10 May, 2017, 11:25 PM UTC

IronApex Turok said:


brunsonthomas said:


IronApex Turok said:


brunsonthomas said:


Skycooldude said:


Oracle said:


The 1.2 was for swearing, 

Edit

Reason for edit( rule), onother reason for edit

Who edited it

So 

Edit

1.2( first reason for edit), calling a member ''a****face''

second edit, screenshot edited, Removed in game location( another reason for edit)

Those are not meant for you but for the forum admins and other mods

So if I am reading the second edit.. you can't put ss's in here with ingame locations?
Correct. You should obliterate or otherwise eliminate locations from any screenshot.
what rule number is that?
That is the expectation of privacy and not revealing any personal information on the Forums without express consent.
and what rule number is that?

I am totally agree. This is no where in the rules.. Screenshots have been posted in the forum for 3 years and just suddenly now they are not allowed to contain ingame locations..


Should this actually be a rule... the rules need to be updated to make it extremely clear that is the case.. however.. I feel it is more of a taking the rules FAR past their intention and actually infringing upon the rights of the players to post information.


Ingame location is common knowledge and not personal at all.
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test
11 May, 2017, 5:52 AM UTC

Skycooldude said:


I am totally agree. This is no where in the rules.. Screenshots have been posted in the forum for 3 years and just suddenly now they are not allowed to contain ingame locations..








Should this actually be a rule... the rules need to be updated to make it extremely clear that is the case.. however.. I feel it is more of a taking the rules FAR past their intention and actually infringing upon the rights of the players to post information.




Ingame location is common knowledge and not personal at all.

Sorry Sky, Brunson has spoken and laid down the law - you must now bow down to his new rules (that isn't actually anywhere in the forum rulebook) which seems to be applied at random, against the former policy that stood for nearly 3 years.  Brunson has uttered this new standard and it has been set forth against everything that was allowed previously.  


And by the way, there is a really good chance that if someone else Brunson happens to like does this disallowed action, there will most likely be no issue with it as everyone in the forums saw when reading the thread in the tavern where he did just that.  (here's the link: https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/tavern/39306_enough-----2/)

If you dare discuss his actions as a moderator, be prepared for a ban, as that is strictly prohibited.


Enjoy the "fair" moderation, from one of the forums "fairest" moderators, Sir Brunsonthomas!


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Oracle
11 May, 2017, 7:31 AM UTC

Is true there isn't a rule that governs that. Its a golden rule that arises from the act pf people reporting someone of being an alt without proper evidence. These then drives the community to harass the player involved, in-game and in the forum. Since such act can also lead to player being targeted for attacks, Which leads to bullying,  screenshot must be edited to exclude all form of in game locations. 

Location of Beacons, Hamlets and Settlements are the exception. But fortress location and players location are removed. Fortress location if you remember were first removed when location of Emperors fort was posted ( the first  level 20 fort). The policy is that such screenshot or pictures are to be removed without notification. But I prefer to edit the screenshot and remove the in-game locations( like I did with Anarchy members screenshot). 


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Oracle
11 May, 2017, 7:39 AM UTC

test said:

If you dare discuss his actions as a moderator, be prepared for a ban, as that is strictly prohibited.


Enjoy the "fair" moderation, from one of the forums "fairest" moderators, Sir Brunsonthomas!

Discussing forum moderators decision is against forum rules. You can only discuss those actions with the support team. Players are not normally banned for those actions, but given a warning, or the thread is closed, and later deleted, but it will depend with the crime. Personally I think most players just want to make moderators look bad, something I don't understand. 

You try to remedy the situation, and they keep pushing you for a ban, and example being that of DV, who have blocked my PM( which you know are very important for moderation duty). Repeated violation will definitely leads to a ban, especially if the party has been made aware, and given a time to remedy the situation( something that is not in the rules, violation compels immediate ban, without notification)
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Trentos
11 May, 2017, 7:59 AM UTC

"After all you guys need a moderator who will be your enemy, maybe you might just get one"

"Discussing forum moderators decision is against forum rules"


It seems the latest trend is to attack volunteer Moderators, and the questioning of their decisions is filling the forums, and killed the main Leagues sub-forum. I read the threats of bans, but unless threats are followed through with, I only see this continuing.

Personally, I don't see the need to hide coordinates as they are easy enough to find in-game. But if that has become a general rule, then I'm sure the community can come to terms with this. If not, then the problem of mods being trolled is worse than I thought.

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Trentos
11 May, 2017, 8:06 AM UTC

"Enjoy the "fair" moderation, from one of the forums "fairest" moderators, Sir Brunsonthomas!"


I can personally say that over the past 2 weeks, Brunson has helped me with a couple of problems. These have had nothing to do me crying about other contributors, but rather:

1. Deletion of a thread that was in very poor taste that luckily very few had the chance to view

2. Fast feedback and updates on a bug I reported (which btw was fixed in a very timely manner)


I think the problems others have with the mods are due to their own actions/behaviour in the forums, and these "trolls" should have a good look at themselves before lashing out at the mods that do a job for the community on a volunteer basis.

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IronApex Turok
11 May, 2017, 8:16 AM UTC

you two dont understand....


you cant go around making up rules, editing peoples posts, closing threads just on  your own whim!


thats why you two should have never been made moderator!


if there is no rule about posting someones coords... you cant just decide its a rule and edit my post. 



what if you decide there is a rule that IronApex cant post on thursdays and you just go around and delete everything i post on thursdays.   and according to you guys, im not even allowed to discuss. 


I got this thread reopened by oberon after you closed it because you were basing it on some unknown rule.

 

Thats why the two of you are the WORST POSSIBLE players to be chosen as moderators.   i realize we arent supposed to talk about decisions that youve made as a moderator, but when your credibility as moderator is called into question, i dont think there is any other option but to openly discuss why. 



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Oracle
11 May, 2017, 8:25 AM UTC

IronApex Turok said:


you two dont understand....


you cant go around making up rules, editing peoples posts, closing threads just on  your own whim!


thats why you two should have never been made moderator!


if there is no rule about posting someones coords... you cant just decide its a rule and edit my post. 



what if you decide there is a rule that IronApex cant post on thursdays and you just go around and delete everything i post on thursdays.   and according to you guys, im not even allowed to discuss. 


I got this thread reopened by oberon after you closed it because you were basing it on some unknown rule.

 

Thats why the two of you are the WORST POSSIBLE players to be chosen as moderators.   i realize we arent supposed to talk about decisions that youve made as a moderator, but when your credibility as moderator is called into question, i dont think there is any other option but to openly discuss why. 


Since we work for you, you can decide weather, after 3 years of excluding in-game locations on the forum something that is done in other forums, and across many games should continue or not?

Biohazard has killed the forum.
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IronApex Turok
11 May, 2017, 8:31 AM UTC

Also, the rule is we cant CREATE a post discussing moderation decisions, but since we Community managers have moved comments here, a thread created for another discussion on moderators, we are allowed to talk about moderator actions. it seems i am not in violation after all when i discuss your decisions, so long as i dont create the thread. 



3.15 Create posts discussing forum moderation decisions, such as banning, closing forum threads, deleting forum posts / threads, etc. This also includes publicly sharing any private messages from Community Administrators or Moderators regarding disciplinary actions taken towards you. The discussion of forum/group moderation actions generally leads to inflaming the community and trolling Community Administrators and Moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules.


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IronApex Turok
11 May, 2017, 8:32 AM UTC
Oracle said:

IronApex Turok said:


you two dont understand....


you cant go around making up rules, editing peoples posts, closing threads just on  your own whim!


thats why you two should have never been made moderator!


if there is no rule about posting someones coords... you cant just decide its a rule and edit my post. 



what if you decide there is a rule that IronApex cant post on thursdays and you just go around and delete everything i post on thursdays.   and according to you guys, im not even allowed to discuss. 


I got this thread reopened by oberon after you closed it because you were basing it on some unknown rule.

 

Thats why the two of you are the WORST POSSIBLE players to be chosen as moderators.   i realize we arent supposed to talk about decisions that youve made as a moderator, but when your credibility as moderator is called into question, i dont think there is any other option but to openly discuss why. 


Since we work for you, you can decide weather, after 3 years of excluding in-game locations on the forum something that is done in other forums, and across many games should continue or not?

is that it? are we playing by other games' rules?
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Oracle
11 May, 2017, 8:40 AM UTC

IronApex Turok said:

Since we work for you, you can decide weather, after 3 years of excluding in-game locations on the forum something that is done in other forums, and across many games should continue or not?

is that it? are we playing by other games' rules?

Plarium games, If you read other games forum, you will see that they have similar rules. 

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Trentos
11 May, 2017, 9:02 AM UTC

"3.15 Create posts discussing forum moderation decisions, such as banning, closing forum threads, deleting forum posts / threads, etc."


You are posting. I.e. creating a post. Different from creating a thread (minor detail), but it's there in the rules. 

How about you all make up, and let the forums get back to normal. Or is this obsession with moderation of a GAME forum too much to get over for some?

Personally sick of the handful of players destroying OUR forums just because they feel the need to troll mods. There is plenty of other interesting action happening on the server that could be discussed. Just my opinion.

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