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Hey Plarium, I just got CHEATED ON BGS SOOOOO BAD!!!!!! Tell me is this acceptable rewards????

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EmperorTrump
9 April, 2017, 4:55 AM UTC

Hey Plarium, i dont know what u did recently to screw with the BGS but i just took out a lvl 98, 51, 38 and 33 BG and do u know what i got??????  About 350 dragons and 70 occult units!!!!!!!!! BULLLLLLLLSHHHIIIIII.......   I spend WEEKS training before i do bgs and i just threw away massive amounts of wyverns and dragons, paladins and knights ive spent WEEKS training and this is all i got?????  I know how the normal system works, its based off losses. So i melted down the 98, melted down the 51,melted down a lvl 23 Portal QUEST bg, then went and finished the 98. Then i got a CRAPPY reward of 295 dragons for finishing a 98..... Yes 295 dragons after all of that.... so i finished the 51 hoping to get the full payout.. Got 55 dragons.. PFFF, so i said thats still not good enough, let me take out a 38 and see.. Got 37 occult units..  STILL not good enough so i took out a 33 saying OK this time im actually gonna get the "real" payout... NOPE..... Another 33 occult units.... WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIIII!!!! Totally inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am BEYOND PISSED OFF.... Do u know how much money ive spent on this game and i just got thoroughly ROBBED!!!!!!!  OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!! Have it your way..SO STUPID AND RIDICULOUS CHEATING AND ROBBING A MASSIVE SPENDING CUSTOMER WHO IS AN EXPERT AT BGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO EXCUSE FOR THAT LOUSY PAYOUT!!!!!

  Go ahead and check my reports from 8:24 pm EST to 12:35 am EST and tell me do u think thats fair????
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Stormfall
9 April, 2017, 6:08 AM UTC

EmperorTrump said:


Hey Plarium, i dont know what u did recently to screw with the BGS but i just took out a lvl 98, 51, 38 and 33 BG and do u know what i got??????  About 350 dragons and 70 occult units!!!!!!!!! BULLLLLLLLSHHHIIIIII.......   I spend WEEKS training before i do bgs and i just threw away massive amounts of wyverns and dragons, paladins and knights ive spent WEEKS training and this is all i got?????  I know how the normal system works, its based off losses. So i melted down the 98, melted down the 51,melted down a lvl 23 Portal QUEST bg, then went and finished the 98. Then i got a CRAPPY reward of 295 dragons for finishing a 98..... Yes 295 dragons after all of that.... so i finished the 51 hoping to get the full payout.. Got 55 dragons.. PFFF, so i said thats still not good enough, let me take out a 38 and see.. Got 37 occult units..  STILL not good enough so i took out a 33 saying OK this time im actually gonna get the "real" payout... NOPE..... Another 37 occult units.... WHAT A LOAD OF HORSE SHIIII!!!! Totally inexcusable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am BEYOND PISSED OFF.... Do u know how much money ive spent on this game and i just got thoroughly ROBBED!!!!!!!  OK, thats the way it is??? Then I wont be spending any more money!!! Have it your way..SO STUPID AND RIDICULOUS CHEATING AND ROBBING A MASSIVE SPENDING CUSTOMER WHO IS AN EXPERT AT BGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO EXCUSE FOR THAT LOUSY PAYOUT!!!!!

  Go ahead and check my reports from 8:24 pm EST to 12:35 am EST and tell me do u think thats fair????
Ekhm... Mr BGs expert you know that saga BGs, like lvl 23 The Last Potral, are not regular BGs and you dont load your resource bank doing them, right?
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EmperorTrump
9 April, 2017, 6:10 AM UTC

What a silly thing to nit pick and dispute. The point is ALL the bgs i melted down including a lvl 98 all the way down and 51 all the way down before finishing the 98 and only got rocks and pebbles.. Oops i mean 255 dragons... for my thousands of wyverns, dragons, necros, knights and palas. Then finished 2 other bgs and still got more dirt thrown in my face from Plarium from their recent "Upgrades and changes"

 There was really no point of u to comment if u take in the entirety of all the bgs i melted down. I think ur just one of those ppl who likes to insert ur opinions, no matter how meaningless or relevant it is to the whole of the conversation
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Stormfall
9 April, 2017, 6:17 AM UTC
Sure dude go "melt down" more saga BGs, you are the expert after all.
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EmperorTrump
9 April, 2017, 7:45 AM UTC

I see u still havent grasped the entirety of what i did. Not my fault. The saga was the smallest piece of the pie and thats all ur hung up on. Stop looking to troll just because u "like to comment". I bet u have thousands of worthless tweets and facebook posts so u can feel special.

 I yellowed a 98 and 51, let me repeat, yellowed a 98... and a 51.. then finished the 98, got a measly 295 dragons for all that. Then finished 3 more bgs waiting for the big payout and still got nothing. The message is for Plarium, not u.  Oh and warehouses and barns were maxed so i could only receive troops. Still got ripped off worse than i EVER have in my entire history of playing.. Oh and coincidentally its since their "Upgrades"............   I will be using the rest of all my stuff and then never spending a penny more. Good job Plarium, u succeeded in driving away a HIGH spender 

 I want an answer Plarium!

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Nemanja
9 April, 2017, 7:48 AM UTC

Lord Emperortrump,

as far as I can see you're not familiar with recent changes.

Approximately six months ago Plarium resolved Bg's cheating issue. Yellowing Bg's isn't helpful anymore.

Rewards are depending on your bank. Nothing else. 

Furthermore, few players posted their opinion on BG rewarding mechanism so my advice to you will be to follow relevant Forum posts and make your own calculation.
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EmperorTrump
9 April, 2017, 7:54 AM UTC

Thank u for ur input. I have never changed my methods and i still have always gotten massive payouts. Its not so much about the yellowing, but its about ur troop losses correct? In which case my losses for taking out 90% of a lvl 98 and the same to a lvl 51, and then finishing the lvl 98 should be pretty sufficient, more than a 295 dragon reward... Yes i know sometimes u have t finish a few more to hit the big score, so i did. I did a few more lvl 38 and lvl 33 which hadnt been touched, they were full. Still nothing more than 37 necros and 55 dragons. I just did another lvl 32 also and still havent gotten a payout. If theres no payout than what would be the point in throwing away WEEKS worth of training and boosting troops only to get back 5% of what i used?  There is something wrong here. Ive never gotten a raw deal like this, EVER

  I want a sufficient response or something to be done from Plarium 
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EmperorTrump
9 April, 2017, 8:30 AM UTC

OK Plarium i have totals to make it easier for u. Troop losses on lvl 98 and lvl 51 BEFORE going back and finishing lvl 98 bg.

 1 Great Western, 1 Pegasus, 143 dragons, 400 wyverns, 109 necro/warlock, 2 Renegades, 341 knights, 981 paladins, 64 pikes.

 THEN when finishing the level 98 bg more losses of ANOTHER 50 dragons, 217 wyverns, 68 necro, 6 warlocks, 11 renegades, 163 knights, 810 paladins, 13 wraiths.

So ALL of that was used to finish the lvl 98. The reward???  

  295 dragons........................... 

  As i said sometimes u have to do a few more bgs to make sure u clear the bank, WHICH I DID, i threw away ANOTHER 157 dragons, 52 wyverns, etc on the lvl 99 bg.. THEN finished the lvl 51 from previously with another 71 dragons, 23 necros, 34 knights, 124 paladins.   

 Reward???  55 dragons.....................

 I said this cannot be possible, so did a lvl 38 and lvl 33 bg. Used over another 100 more dragons and 22 wyverns, 24 necros, 6 renegades, ETC.....  

 Reward from both of those.............. A TOTAL of 70 occult units.............


  Final losses.. 521 dragons, 669 wyverns, 196 necro/warlocks 13 renegades, over 630 knights, over 1800 paladins, ETC ETC...

  Final rewards... 350 dragons and 70 occult units......

 And as i stated i cleared 90% of the lvl 98 and then 90% of the lvl 51 and then finished the 98 for "winnings" of only 255 dragons. Then on and on to more bgs and still NO REWARDS WORTH MY TROOP LOSSES

  I have been doing bgs the same way for 9 months and never changed my methods, and ALWAYS receive massive payouts. Maybe u should inform your customers that you'll be making significant changes before u completely scr.ew over your PAYING (and in my case HIGH HIGH HIGH PAYING) customers. This was not a change from 6 months ago, this was in the past week.

  Even setting aside ALL other unit losses. Just adding my wyvern and dragon losses vs reward count by itself.. 1290 wyverns/dragons lost vs 350 dragon "rewards"........  Not even counting ALLLL the other losses of my troops in there

   COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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gogo giant god
9 April, 2017, 8:40 AM UTC
emperortrump you are completely right this what plarium has done they now give you good hero equipment in exchange for massive troops payouts now so now you will only get hero equipment now as the payouts and get low amount of griffins and dragons they really did rip us off on this one i took troop massive losses doing all level 55 54 53 and 51 battle grounds and got the payout like your talking about and my bank was good as well for a massive troop last time i got a massive troop payout with a smaller bank this time it was a large bank and still no good payouts just ones that you are talking about all because they have traded good troop payouts for good hero equipment like hero could even compare to a good troop payouts not i spent over 70000 sapphires into reviving my massive troop losses i did get it to a gain but not from battle grounds from using my resources package and boosts i got from the development race discount and the resources i store up over the month and the worse thing about it all is that i got occult hero equipment when i'm on bestiary hero equipment what's with plarium and these damn boost percentage in defense and offense now from hero equipment hero equipment they are almost nothing compare to good troop payout i will and not be doing battle grounds again until plarium changes the damn system back to what it was massive troop payout not hero equipment payouts and rank i got wasn't good for what i lost either level 32 lost arts my griffins are at maxium lost art level as well as my undead dragons 1% defense increase didnt change much for the losses i took thankfully my reviving troops with sapphires with my resources and boosts stashes sorted that out and turn my losses into gain again by making own massive troops payout i will now do and put my trust in my own massive troops payouts plarium that has none now lesson learnt for me dont do battle grounds until the system is change back to what it was massive troops payouts and i think us players should not talk about battle grounds or open our mouth about massive troops payouts or plarium is just going to make them worser if they could get any worser than they are right now
gogo giant god the alchemist of defense we are god and god is us
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exxxe
9 April, 2017, 9:27 AM UTC

listen to your brain then 

and STOP doing them 


thats as easy as it is 


( ohh and just me being extra helpful saga quest BG does nothing to the bank and your melting of just those two levels would in no way make you eligible for a payout on that high level )

I'am me and that is what i care about :)
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Sir Dan Saul Knight
9 April, 2017, 9:42 AM UTC

Nemanja said:


Approximately six months ago Plarium resolved Bg's cheating issue. Yellowing Bg's isn't helpful anymore.

Lol.

1) Understanding the mechanics using your skill knowledge and experience and using them to your best advantage is not "cheating".

2) They didn't resolve diddly squat - you can still make massive one-off profits from BG's
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Sir Dan Saul Knight
9 April, 2017, 9:44 AM UTC

PS to the OP - if you don't track resources in and out then there is no point in commenting on BG's.

This is in fact the kind of rant that closes Plarium's ears, because they are so used to people complaining when they don't understand what they are complaining about, that they don't listen when a knowledable player finally comes around with decent facts and info and points out that BG's are bugged.
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EmperorTrump
9 April, 2017, 9:49 AM UTC
@EXXE  You seem to have been here much longer than me so im sure u can relate to this. When youve lost tons of troops yellowing bgs and then finally finish one and u dont get a good payout, the natural reaction is OK i have to finish another one or 2 to get the real reward. Thats how it always works. Thats how its worked for me for 9 months with NO problems whatsoever. Sometimes u have to finish a few extra to get the REAL reward. Only this time it never came...  So its not like im blindly throwing away troops, its that a big reward is ALWAYS imminent.. ALWAYS. Sometimes u just have to do a few extra to get it. Except this time after their "glorious upgrades" of 1% to troop enhancement skills and completely wiping out any bg troops rewards. All im saying is a freaking warning would be nice if theyre gonna significantly reduce bg rewards they should tell their customers. Its just bad, HORRIBLE HORRIFIC business. And EXTREMELY SHADY!!!!!!!!
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Solidarius
9 April, 2017, 11:26 AM UTC

my tip regarding BG's:


your at the casino, and you have to remember the golden rule:


The House Always Wins.


hope this helps, and I wish you best of luck of geting your troops back

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nobody
9 April, 2017, 5:51 PM UTC

Sir Dan Saul Knight said:


PS to the OP - if you don't track resources in and out then there is no point in commenting on BG's.

This is in fact the kind of rant that closes Plarium's ears, because they are so used to people complaining when they don't understand what they are complaining about, that they don't listen when a knowledable player finally comes around with decent facts and info and points out that BG's are bugged.

to me, the only thing plarium ears need to hear, is that there is a portion of their player base who are tired of "resource sink" "gameplay".  looking at his numbers i am not surprised by his losses, it is his statement of usual gains that baffles me.  as well as your statement of of one time payoff. is that a statement of true gain?  the use of the term cheaters shows the viewpoint of plarium,  that using a skilled approach gained too much value.  that value was still a resource sink for me.  in my experience clearing not yellowlining 10 to 20 bgs within a 5 level grouping has resulted in no payout and it has taken dropping 12 levels below that grouping to get a payout.  i do not track resources, but there is no way i could even get a profit by clearing 20 similar bgs in order to get one payout.

bgs is simply not fun gameplay, it is a loss.

as for the new update, it is a multiplier at the expense of resource sinks.  it is not a growth path.  gathering resources is a growth path, and the best one provided is by illegal bots, not plarium.  and if anyone says hamlets, they will not be insulting my intelligence, it will be insulting theirs.

resource gathering is equal ground. a multiplier favors what already exists.  a mutiplier of .5 x 100k is a huge loss in value from the inital  value since it is relative to .5 x 100m.  all mutipliers work the same.  every single multiplier makes the weak weaker and the strong stronger regardless of gains by the weak.

a set growth path of 1m resources per day is equal gameplay.  yes you must get strong enough to gather, but that is doable with reasonable effort.

resource sink or multiplier or growth path.  i have said it all before.
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Jezebel
9 April, 2017, 6:58 PM UTC

lol saga's don't count towards bank and you should use nothing "good" on them you could raise wraiths every day and kill them over the next year and it won't matter they don't "bank" resources


banking bg's still works but you need to reload your rewards before clearing another and try again if you didn't get a payout so its better to bank the higher level ones rather than the low level ones 


you took a payout too soon if you got a big reward last time you need to repay that in resources before getting another


Just to clarify -you yellowed say 5 bgs level 90, 91, 92, 93 and 94 - you cleared level 94 but got a lousy payout - reload the reward from the level 94 into bgs and try to clear the level 93 - and so on ....


you can still play them using the bank you do not have to clear each one but you do have to yellow more than you used to also i recommend NOT clearing them all after you get a payout - if you leave some yellowed then you will have some bg's yellowed that you can pull troops out of if you get into trouble doing bgs


also the only reason I am commenting here is I know people won't stop playing bg and they will never play them correctly so I am telling you what I know but not everything :)
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Jezebel
9 April, 2017, 7:25 PM UTC
Sir Dan Saul Knight said:

Nemanja said:


Approximately six months ago Plarium resolved Bg's cheating issue. Yellowing Bg's isn't helpful anymore.

Lol.

1) Understanding the mechanics using your skill knowledge and experience and using them to your best advantage is not "cheating".

2) They didn't resolve diddly squat - you can still make massive one-off profits from BG's
true story
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Jezebel
9 April, 2017, 7:33 PM UTC
EmperorTrump said:

What a silly thing to nit pick and dispute. The point is ALL the bgs i melted down including a lvl 98 all the way down and 51 all the way down before finishing the 98 and only got rocks and pebbles.. Oops i mean 255 dragons... for my thousands of wyverns, dragons, necros, knights and palas. Then finished 2 other bgs and still got more dirt thrown in my face from Plarium from their recent "Upgrades and changes"

 There was really no point of u to comment if u take in the entirety of all the bgs i melted down. I think ur just one of those ppl who likes to insert ur opinions, no matter how meaningless or relevant it is to the whole of the conversation
you do know that bg's are recources in = resources out right? so why are you sending knights when you should be sending reavers and pals when you should be sending pathy's? Dragons are better than wyverns but build some chimera they are the high resource troop for beast.  If you are going to build for WEEKS at least build the right troops
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EmperorTrump
9 April, 2017, 10:22 PM UTC

@Jezebel regarding ur strategy for bgs. I do exactly the same method as u recommended. I yellowed a 98 and then a 51 both almost to completion. Figuring in any normal circumstance ive ever had that losing that many troops should be enough for a good payout. Afterall almost completing a 98 is pretty massive losses. So then finished the 98 and got 255 dragons, peanuts for what i lost. In any case like this u still havent cashed out the reward and just have to do a few more bgs of just about any level to get that reward. Afterall, i lost tons yellowing the 98 all the way down, and then lost more dragons/wyverns when i finished it. So i yellowed a 99 a little bit, then took out a 38 from full, still nothing. Running out of troops now i finished the 51 which was yellowed all the way down. Still nothing. Then took out a 33, stlll nothing. I said ok the reward has GOT to be in the bank, so i took out a 33, and then a 32. STILL nothing. Now i have no army left and nothing to show for doing all that. Ive literally NEVER had this happen before. The reward has been built up from yellowing a 98 and a 51 and then finishing the 98, and then doing the 38, 33, and 32. I couldnt afford to keep yellowing without cashing something out first and then going back for more. And yes i always keep some yellowed for when im ready to cash out. Ive always done bgs this same way and it has always worked with 100% success. Ive even taught marshals and all kinds of players how to do it this way and it always works the same for them as it does for me. I do the exact strategy as what u recommended, ive always had 100% success rate in cashing in. Except NOT this time. Hence my extreme frustration and complete dissatisfaction and i assume it has to do with the recent 1% Upgrade changes made

  On a side note unrelated, my dragons and wyverns are lvl 19 and 20 respectively, and my chimeras are only lvl 1, so it wouldnt make sense for me to waste the resources training chimeras and using them on bgs at this point. Just wanted to add that on, but its unrelated to my plight here. Thank u for ur assistance 
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Knightmare
9 April, 2017, 10:47 PM UTC

EmperorTrump said:


@Jezebel regarding ur strategy for bgs. I do exactly the same method as u recommended. I yellowed a 98 and then a 51 both almost to completion. Figuring in any normal circumstance ive ever had that losing that many troops should be enough for a good payout. Afterall almost completing a 98 is pretty massive losses. So then finished the 98 and got 255 dragons, peanuts for what i lost. In any case like this u still havent cashed out the reward and just have to do a few more bgs of just about any level to get that reward. Afterall, i lost tons yellowing the 98 all the way down, and then lost more dragons/wyverns when i finished it. So i yellowed a 99 a little bit, then took out a 38 from full, still nothing. Running out of troops now i finished the 51 which was yellowed all the way down. Still nothing. Then took out a 33, stlll nothing. I said ok the reward has GOT to be in the bank, so i took out a 33, and then a 32. STILL nothing. Now i have no army left and nothing to show for doing all that. Ive literally NEVER had this happen before. The reward has been built up from yellowing a 98 and a 51 and then finishing the 98, and then doing the 38, 33, and 32. I couldnt afford to keep yellowing without cashing something out first and then going back for more. And yes i always keep some yellowed for when im ready to cash out. Ive always done bgs this same way and it has always worked with 100% success. Ive even taught marshals and all kinds of players how to do it this way and it always works the same for them as it does for me. I do the exact strategy as what u recommended, ive always had 100% success rate in cashing in. Except NOT this time. Hence my extreme frustration and complete dissatisfaction and i assume it has to do with the recent 1% Upgrade changes made

  On a side note unrelated, my dragons and wyverns are lvl 19 and 20 respectively, and my chimeras are only lvl 1, so it wouldnt make sense for me to waste the resources training chimeras and using them on bgs at this point. Just wanted to add that on, but its unrelated to my plight here. Thank u for ur assistance 

its the resources that count, not the level..... old friend. :) remember me?


anywho.. to help. a month plus ago, I had sank so much in bgs like you I just stopped. Reevaluated what I had read and practiced and switched it up a little. Waited a little, threw everything I had read or learned about them out the window, except for a few key points, reevaluate my method and started up again. I am in a fat negative bank, that's thanks to back to back pay outs. plan to keep it that way now.


also, learn to use paragraphs and such.. it helps to read what you are trying to say.



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